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BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 03:56 PM Oct 2019

Trump announces partial trade deal with China, lifting hopes that tensions could ease

Source: Washington Post



President Trump said Friday that the U.S. and China have reached a limited trade deal, marking the first tangible achievement in the 18-month trade war between the world’s two largest economies. Speaking in the Oval Office during a meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He, the president said negotiators had reached a “substantial phase one” agreement though details remained to be written down.

As part of the partial agreement, the White House agreed not to proceed with plans to increase tariffs on $250 billion in Chinese goods next week from 30 percent from 25 percent. The partial accord, involving major Chinese purchases of U.S. farm products and U.S. tariff concessions, is intended to pave the way for a more complete bargain between Washington and Beijing. Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping could meet to finalize such an agreement in Chile at an Asian-Pacific leaders summit in mid-November. “Both presidents have to own this thing,” said Craig Allen, president of the U.S.-China Business council.

News of a potential deal, which capped two days of talks in Washington, had cheered Wall Street earlier on Friday. Even before the president spoke, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up more than 480 points or 1.8 percent amid hints that a partial accord was imminent. But the lack of specificity in Trump’s announcement, and his comment that the partial deal could still take weeks to iron out, cooled some of that optimism. And the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed up slightly more than 300 points on the day.

Some China hawks were unimpressed by the agreement. “It’s basically some purchases and a bunch of fluff because no one in the administration really wants to go through with the tariffs anyway,” said Derek Scissors, a China expert at the American Enterprise Institute.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/11/us-stocks-poised-big-bounce-expectations-grow-us-china-trade-deal/



Will see if this is "for real" or deflection.

ETA, if the conservative AEI thinks it's bogus then...

Original article -

BREAKING: President Trump described the deal as “substantial” but said key details still need to be ironed out. His announcement came during Oval Office meeting with China’s vice premier, Liu He. Financial markets rose on Friday in anticipation of a breakthrough.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/11/us-stocks-poised-big-bounce-expectations-grow-us-china-trade-deal/
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Trump announces partial trade deal with China, lifting hopes that tensions could ease (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP
No trust there . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #1
Good enought to pump the markets some empedocles Oct 2019 #2
Trump's desperate rockfordfile Oct 2019 #3
There were 3 appeals court rulings against him today, so.... BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #4
China probably took his lunch money and pantsed him The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #5
He creates a problem then offers a "solution" that makes things MarcA Oct 2019 #6
Exactly. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #8
You said it, murielm99 Oct 2019 #17
Wait for it, China will say, ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #7
And Trump(thru "associates") probably made a shitload of money today manipulating Wall Street stuffmatters Oct 2019 #11
Mark My Words... BlueIdaho Oct 2019 #9
President Trump has been known to lie. GeorgeGist Oct 2019 #10
what did this cost? getagrip_already Oct 2019 #12
I believe NOTHING this asshole says bluestarone Oct 2019 #13
If I read the article correctly, no tariffs are being removed. He is simply not doing an increase iluvtennis Oct 2019 #14
That's what I think is the case. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #15
This is a terrible "partial" deal!! at140 Oct 2019 #16

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
5. China probably took his lunch money and pantsed him
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 04:03 PM
Oct 2019

because they know he's desperate for something he can brag about.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
6. He creates a problem then offers a "solution" that makes things
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 04:05 PM
Oct 2019

worse than before he created the problem. This slight of hand appeals
to low info voters and cultists.

BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
8. Exactly.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019

That's what the last part of the OP (per the exasperated comments from the AEI member), seems to suggest.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
11. And Trump(thru "associates") probably made a shitload of money today manipulating Wall Street
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 05:32 PM
Oct 2019

I wonder if anyone is keeping tabs on this tried and true Trump strategy. Before he did it by investing in companies, then announcing he was going to acquire them so their stock would go up, then dumping the inflated stock before announcing he'd changed his mind & not acquiring.
Seems like he's been using his China announcements (often not true at all) over and over not just to grab headlines & bogus pr but also to spike and deflate the market. I can't believe he isn't somehow harvesting a fortune from Insider (Presidential) trading. He not only knows when the market will go up& down, he knowingly causes these wild swings over and over. Just like he did today.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
9. Mark My Words...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 04:50 PM
Oct 2019

Due to Fatso’s deranged desperation he will sign anything just to get a headline. When all is said and done - Trump’s trade war will be a net loss for America.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
12. what did this cost?
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 05:57 PM
Oct 2019

Manufactured dirt on biden and a green light on taiwan are the 2 most probable.

China doesn't need our soybeans, and it would be easy for them to just wait him out. They got something, and it has to be huge.

iluvtennis

(19,850 posts)
14. If I read the article correctly, no tariffs are being removed. He is simply not doing an increase
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:41 PM
Oct 2019

from 25% to 30% that was planned for next week. Nothing burger.

BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
15. That's what I think is the case.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:47 PM
Oct 2019

In other tariff news, I heard locally that there was also a run on Parmesan and Romano cheese.

at140

(6,110 posts)
16. This is a terrible "partial" deal!!
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:33 PM
Oct 2019

Because USA will not know for more than a year if China actually bought the promised amount.

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