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Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:40 AM

Pompeo says State Dept. officials won't show up for scheduled impeachment depositions this week

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Source: Washington Post



Secretary of State Mike Pompeo fired a broadside at House Democrats on Tuesday, saying State Department officials scheduled to appear this week before committees conducting the impeachment inquiry would not be made available until "we obtain further clarity on these matters."

The refusal, in a letter to House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot L. Engel (D-N.Y.), described the demand for depositions by five officials who played a role in U.S. relations with Ukraine as "an attempt to intimidate, bully, and treat improperly, the distinguished professionals of the Department of State." The statements came as Pompeo's role in the Ukraine investigation broadened with reports that he was a participant in the July 25 call by President Trump to Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, which led to the impeachment investigation.

Before that report, first published by The Wall Street Journal, Pompeo had brushed off questions about the incident, saying last week that he had not yet read the transcript of the telephone call released by the White House, or the whistleblower complaint that it sparked.

The committee, along with the House Intelligence and Oversight panels, had requested the five officials to appear for depositions this week and next, to begin Wednesday with Marie Yovanovitch, who was recalled by Pompeo as ambassador to Ukraine in May, prior to the end of her tour.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/pompeo-says-state-dept-officials-wont-show-up-for-scheduled-impeachment-depositions-this-week/2019/10/01/b350f8a2-e459-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html



Edit - here is a copy of the letter that Pompass sent - https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-secretary-of-state-mike-pompeo-s-letter-to-the-chairman-of-the-house-foreign-affairs-committee/06381877-dc0e-445c-baf5-8a003d49b7bf/

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Reply Pompeo says State Dept. officials won't show up for scheduled impeachment depositions this week (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Oct 1 OP
Dennis Donovan Oct 1 #1
dalton99a Oct 1 #2
cstanleytech Oct 1 #10
RKP5637 Oct 1 #14
monmouth4 Oct 1 #36
still_one Oct 1 #15
Mike 03 Oct 1 #3
Botany Oct 1 #4
joost5 Oct 1 #44
Botany Oct 1 #65
samnsara Oct 1 #5
lunatica Oct 1 #51
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 1 #6
at140 Oct 1 #7
SunSeeker Oct 1 #8
redstatebluegirl Oct 1 #9
pazzyanne Oct 1 #47
KPN Oct 1 #11
RKP5637 Oct 1 #12
Delmette2.0 Oct 1 #22
RKP5637 Oct 1 #25
Delmette2.0 Oct 1 #27
RKP5637 Oct 1 #29
Hotler Oct 1 #13
RKP5637 Oct 1 #20
solara Oct 1 #16
Scarsdale Oct 1 #57
solara Oct 1 #61
Scarsdale Oct 1 #62
solara Oct 1 #66
duforsure Oct 1 #17
northoftheborder Oct 1 #18
apnu Oct 1 #19
barbtries Oct 1 #21
LiberalArkie Oct 1 #23
JaneQPublic Oct 1 #48
benld74 Oct 1 #24
Pepsidog Oct 1 #38
benld74 Oct 1 #63
duforsure Oct 1 #26
BumRushDaShow Oct 1 #30
librechik Oct 1 #28
Nevermypresident Oct 1 #60
ancianita Oct 1 #31
RKP5637 Oct 1 #32
rickyhall Oct 1 #33
Lulu KC Oct 1 #34
SomewhereInTheMiddle Oct 1 #35
YOHABLO Oct 1 #37
Chakaconcarne Oct 1 #39
dchill Oct 1 #40
Native Oct 1 #41
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 1 #42
Kablooie Oct 1 #43
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JaneQPublic Oct 1 #49
Thunderbeast Oct 1 #50
orangecrush Oct 1 #52
ffr Oct 1 #53
LiberalLovinLug Oct 1 #54
onecaliberal Oct 1 #55
world wide wally Oct 1 #56
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Linda Ed Oct 1 #59
Nitram Oct 1 #64
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:41 AM

1. Jail and fine for contempt.

ENOUGH of this nonsense.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:42 AM

2. Yep.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:58 AM

10. Agreed. nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:04 PM

14. Agree!! K&R!!! The democrats need to start really kicking ass and let the chips fall where they may.

The democrats are going to look too soft and easy!!!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:12 PM

36. Get out the handcuffs and off to jail with them. It's the only way they will get it. n/t

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:10 PM

15. They are going to claim executive privlege, and this will go to the courts. At the minimum it is a

delay tactic, at the worst it is the attempted destruction of the republic



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:43 AM

3. F' 'em. Add another Article of Impeachment.

This can't be allowed any longer.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:45 AM

4. Inherent contempt .... from wiki

Subpoenas
Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.

As announced in Wilkinson v. United States, a Congressional committee must meet three requirements for its subpoenas to be "legally sufficient." First, the committee's investigation of the broad subject area must be authorized by its chamber; second, the investigation must pursue "a valid legislative purpose" but does not need to involve legislation and does not need to specify the ultimate intent of Congress; and third, the specific inquiries must be pertinent to the subject matter area that has been authorized for investigation.

The Court held in Eastland v. United States Servicemen's Fund that Congressional subpoenas are within the scope of the Speech and Debate clause which provides "an absolute bar to judicial interference" once it is determined that Members are acting within the "legitimate legislative sphere" with such compulsory process. Under that ruling, courts generally do not hear motions to quash Congressional subpoenas; even when executive branch officials refuse to comply, courts tend to rule that such matters are "political questions" unsuitable for judicial remedy. In fact, many legal rights usually associated with a judicial subpoena do not apply to a Congressional subpoena. For example, attorney-client privilege and information that is normally protected under the Trade Secrets Act do not need to be recognized.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:04 PM

44. Check, check and check

It's authorized by chamber - check, it's to oversee the Exec branch - check, it's specific to the subject of T's call to Ukrainian president - check. They're trying to stall till 2020 and say it's politically motivated by the election.

Time to lock them up now.

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Response to joost5 (Reply #44)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:57 PM

65. I am not a lawyer nor am I smart but it .


... seems like a clear cut case of inherent contempt to me and this is in Congress' per view.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:46 AM

5. cowards.... just think HRC was there for how many hours..11?

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Response to samnsara (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:24 PM

51. Yes she was, but

she was also innocent and had nothing to hide. Same canít be said about these guys. Itís not even much of a question anymore on what the motivation for all this obfuscation, delaying tactics and general all around criminality are for. Only the truly stupid donít see this for what it is.

Soon theyíll be whipping out the flag to wrap themselves in. You know, Scoundrels, patriotism...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

6. Delay, obfuscate, distract, lie, what-about-the-other-guys, litigate, delay, obfuscate, .... . . .nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:52 AM

7. Delay will continue until evening of November 3rd, 2020

The Trumpians are counting on re-election.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:53 AM

8. Lock him up!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:53 AM

9. Contempt of Congress and obstruction of justice.

Just keep piling them on Pompeo.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:11 PM

47. Agree!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:58 AM

11. Are we now where the rubber hits the road? It appears so to me.

Or do we have more steps to go through? Do we provide clarity" in the form of a response letter and does that letter iterate the dates for appearance before investigative committee(?) under this subpoena and possibly threaten "inherent contempt" for further delay tactics?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:02 PM

12. Look at what was done to Chelsea Manning when she did not go for a subpoena. Went to Jail, period.

Right to Jail!!! The democrats need to start taking some hard nosed action!!!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:37 PM

22. Put them in jail.

They can wait there until Putin and Trump figure out what to do.

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Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:45 PM

25. It's such damn bullshit, people refusing to show up for subpoenas, and now Barr with

his bag of tricks. These are not nice people and F'en evil.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:54 PM

27. They are all evil, f'en evil.

Once a few of them are jailed the next ones will think twice before refusing. (That's based on a lot of hope.)

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Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:56 PM

29. Yep, my thoughts too! ... need to start with some hard nosed action ... lock a few up! n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:04 PM

13. This is where we find out if our party has stopped playing nice.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:31 PM

20. K&R!!! The democrats are way too F'en nice IMO!!! n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:11 PM

16. Sad to say, I don't believe there will be any consequences for Pompeo

or his minions. This was another little Rubicon. Pompeo believes he is also above the Law and he most likely is, just like his boss, the tyrant trump.

I sure hope someone can talk me down.. but I am only one of the millions who are incredibly tired of this crap; who are worn out with the trump administration's myriad crimes that have absolutely no penalty.

I think I am done.

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Response to solara (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:47 PM

57. Just a thought, but

what would it take to simply REMOVE Pompeo from his position for insubordination? He will not obey the law of the land, so why should taxpayers pay his salary and perks? Also, catch Stephen Miller before he gets into the WH, arrest the little prick and jail him until he decides to talk.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #57)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:30 PM

61. Yes! What WOULD it take to remove Pompeo from his position I wonder?

He won't obey the Rule of Law so why should we taxpayers keep paying him to continue rubbing our faces in his arrogance? And capturing Miller on his way to the WH just goes without saying.

These are great ideas...

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Response to solara (Reply #61)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:11 PM

62. Stop all the

travel, too. For Pompeo, Barr and Guiliani. They are using taxpayer funded travel to encourage other countries to undermine the US.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #62)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:54 PM

66. You should send this to Pelosi & post on twitter n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:25 PM

17. They should do everything within their powers to

Make these people show up for Congress or have consequences that'll make them all take notice, instead of being able to just ignore Congress completely. Jail , fines , removal from office positions, along with refusals to answer questions or this just continues to go on without them being held accountable for anything.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:29 PM

18. same old, same old.....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:31 PM

19. Dear Democratic Party Office Holders, the time to keep powder dry is past...

... time to hold every one of these scumbags in Contempt of Congress and formally charge them, the department heads, and Trump with Obstruction of Justice.

The time for being nice is past. Get mean, get ugly.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:32 PM

21. that is fucking bullshit

lock them up. this cannot go on

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:39 PM

23. Ask him if Susan McDougal rings a bell.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:15 PM

48. Bingo. (nt)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:42 PM

24. I work for USDA

If Perdue said the same thing

And I was called to testify

I would still testify

Heads of these departments are POTUS selected

Workers at these departments

Are the actual workers.

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Response to benld74 (Reply #24)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:43 PM

38. it takes courage to stand up to tyrants.

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Response to benld74 (Reply #24)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:40 PM

63. Career State Dept people defying Bossman

State Department inspector general tells Capitol Hill he'd like to meet tomorrow to "provide staff with copies of documents related to the State Department and Ukraine."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:53 PM

26. I predict when its all uncovered

He'll be one of them heading to prison, and their will be many more. Whistle blowers and leaks, and the people not willing to go to prison for trump will be exposing a lot of stuff they've been doing that was illegal, and Pompeo will either turn , or be going away.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #26)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:57 PM

30. I think they are acting as rogue as they are

because they expect a full pardon/commutation of sentence.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:56 PM

28. I believe this is the last straw for the Constitution. Pompeo just pushed the red button n/t

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Response to librechik (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:07 PM

60. +1

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:05 PM

31. He is witness tampering, or stalling, thereby obstructing Congress. Another article of impeachment.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:05 PM

32. Pompeo is just trying to save his sleazy ass!!!!! n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:06 PM

33. Will someone just arrest him & giuli, I'm tired of reading about them.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:10 PM

34. total creepitude

How dare he.
Seriously.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:12 PM

35. He too can be impeached

ďThe President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.Ē
ó U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4

The House can choose to expand the impeachment investigation to include officials who refuse to cooperate. That is one of the checks the Legislative branch has on the Executive. Although it is likely that the Senate would fail to convict in the SecState's case as well as the POTUS'.

Another is the power of the purse. The House can choose to defund some or all of the State Department or Justice Department or .... This would be massively controversial and highly irresponsible. But choosing to defund parts of the departments' budgets might be done as a targeted statement to make a stand - say the Secretary's staff or travel budget.

The third option I see is the Contempt of Congress route. I'd imagine the President can pardon anyone cited for Contempt in a federal venue, but I could be wrong. He cannot pardon from impeachment and conviction or from budget cuts.

Letting Executive officials ignore COngress breaks the delicate balance of power between the branches. It is bad for the nation.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:13 PM

37. Dems must stop playing nice with these thugs !

If we don't show the nation that no one is above the law, we'll lose.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:44 PM

39. For such a "wonderful" and innocent phone call.....

You would think they'd take this opportunity to completely shut down democrats and the fake news media....

But once again, they pass on the opportunity... very strange.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:46 PM

40. Can't you be impeached in absentia?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:56 PM

41. Can Marie Yovanovitch testify tomorrow if she wants to?

Regardless of what Pompeo says given she was fired.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:02 PM

42. Lock him up!!!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:03 PM

43. This is the first test to see if the Dems can control

The rampant criminality of this regime. If they canít this impeachment isnít going to get very far.

It is a crazy challenge when all your witnesses simply ignore the law.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:05 PM

45. They'll all show up for our version of the Nuremberg trials

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:11 PM

46. Pompeo the Scoffaw is cruisin' for a bruisin'

Clearly an abuse of power. OK Dems -- time to exercise your power!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:22 PM

49. Hey Mike, Harvard and West Point called.

Harvard is taking back your law degree, since you decided the law doesn't apply to you.

West Point wants to retroactively bust you down to private for taking a dump on the oath you took to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:24 PM

50. Just WHO will enforce subpoenas?

It is clear that Barr will not let Federal Marshals execute arrests.

The Sargent at Arms doesn't have enough arms to confront the security details of these criminals.

Who can Pelosi deputize to make arrests?

D.C. Police?
Virginia State Police?
Ginger Baker's Air Force? (Damn! Just found out Ginger is hospitalized. Best wishes.)
Mall cops from Tyson's Corners?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:32 PM

52. I can not find the democratic response to this


And there needs to be one, quickly.

The headlines are making it look like he is flipping off the House and getting away with it scot free.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:33 PM

53. Infer guilt then. Pompeo, you just admitted you violated the U.S. Constitution w/your actions

We have ceased to be a democracy. No other way to see it.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:35 PM

54. This is all showing an obvous lack of checks and balances withing the laws as it is writtten

I guess the founders, and others after, never even contemplated the possibility of such a draconian administration. And what happens if the accused and their witnesses simply refuse to show up? There does not seem to be any recourse. A party can keep it in the courts for years in litigation. They can't arrest anyone because they will just say they are appealing the decision and so are protected until the appeal is over.

I think the only way to finally do this is rising up, surrounding the White House, like Michael Moore suggested, and demand justice.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:36 PM

55. Lock them up, impose massive fines.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:46 PM

56. Lock his arrogant ass up!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:50 PM

58. Inherent Contempt...................throw his ass in jail........................

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:03 PM

59. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: I will hide behind my staff forever even though I lied to you all

Hey Pompeo, remember last week, when you lied on national TV about when you found out about the July 25 phone call with Ukraine?

A survey of 50 former American ambassadors & senior national security officials found 85% disapprove of your performance: Serious morale issues are continuing under Pompeo. No one believes he really cares about the institution or its people. On top of failing to protect the DoS from the verbal and investigatory abuses of this administration, he also traitorously is pushing foreign governments to investigate and discredit our CIA and FBI. You have no right to say our duly elected Congress can't hold this criminal administration accountable.

Democrats must be ready to immediately Impeach Pompeo and any other Trump admin official who blocks oversight in the Impeachment Hearings.

If they arenít guilty, they will have nothing to worry about.
Complying with a Congressional subpoena when issued is part of your duty as a citizen and government personnel.

Sebastian Gorka Was a Wanted Man in Hungary the Entire Time He Worked in the White House
Why is the criminal, Seb Gorka, flying with you on government planes? He has no security clearances and no role in our government! His nebulous role at the White House was never fully defined during his eight-month tenure in the Trump administration, is wanted in connection with ďfirearm or ammunition abuse


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:46 PM

64. Business as usual in the Trump administration. Obstruct, obfuscate, delay.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:27 AM

67. If you're caught red handed

I guess this response seems advisable in the short term.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:52 AM

68. Fill that Capitol Buildin jail

Like a border State Child Detention Center

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