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Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:58 PM

New York Times' botched Kavanaugh story the latest in series of blunders from Opinion section

Source: CNN Business

By Oliver Darcy, CNN Business
Updated 9:02 PM ET, Mon September 16, 2019

New York (CNN Business)The New York Times was reeling on Monday after its Opinion section fumbled a high-profile story about an allegation of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, drawing widespread criticism and condemnation of the newspaper.

It was the latest in a series of high-profile blunders that has caused embarrassment to James Bennet since he was appointed in 2016 as the editor overseeing The Times' Opinion section.

Bennet's tenure has been marked with several mishaps that have generated controversy, drawn criticism, and spurred at least one lawsuit.

A spokesperson for The Times declined to make Bennet available for an interview for this story, but defended the Opinion section by pointing to its talented writers and the good work they have produced.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/16/media/new-york-times-kavanaugh/index.html

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:08 PM

1. Digital subscriptions for NYT down 40% save travel and cooking

I had been so frustrated with their ďopinionĒ section I dropped my subscription a few months ago. Something will have to change for me to go back

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:12 PM

2. NYT will

survive.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:36 PM

3. I wish I had known this before I got into w/ my a-hole uncle

He's a Trumpbot and Kavanaugh apologist extraordinaire. I was wondering why he texted me out of the blue this afternoon. I threw this latest Kavanaugh scandal in his face but he used a crapload of laughing emojis (like a friggin' 12-year-old) and dismissed it as "fake news". I didn't think anything of it at the time because he always dismisses any news item that puts the felons and ReThugs he worships in a bad light as "fake news". And then this comes to light.

I don't give a damn what he thinks, but I hate giving him free ammo like this. Why can't NY Times fact check this stuff first? There's no doubt that Kavanaugh is a lowlife scumbag, but a muck up of this magnitude only serves to makes him like exactly what a-hole cons like my uncle have been whining he is the whole time: The hapless victim of an unscrupulous, politically-driven witch hunt. He's NOT, of course, but that's the kind of crap we're gonna hear all over again.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:54 PM

6. You handled it great. My experience is that Chumpkins are hopeless.

Even if everything should fall apart for Cheeto and his gangsters in an ugly way (including jail time), they'll still defend him until their dying breath.

Cheeto is the first president to openly echo their pet ethnic hatreds, and they'll always be grateful.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:05 PM

15. This is why I avoid political conversations with family members

And if I'm cornered, I keep it to simple moral arguments and avoid any situation that leads people to cherry pick facts. If they insist, I demand they provide their facts in the clear with full context. If they fail that simple metric, I remove myself from the conversation. If they follow me, I thank my host, tell them why I'm leaving, and I leave w/out further discussion.

These conversations are always about spin and social engineering loved ones. I find that distasteful.

Trust me, don't engage with zealots.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 04:20 PM

16. Most Trumpbots actually ARE 12 years old intellectually

 

Uninformed as Hell and easily led.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:38 PM

4. The NYT Opinion section is the worst part of their paper -- unending toxic bullshit which

piggybacks, undeservingly, on the legitimacy of their few niches of strong original content. Second worse is their access-journalism-style political coverage, and it is a close second.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:50 PM

5. Oh boy isn't that the truth!

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:31 AM

7. +++ say it !

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:59 AM

8. Perfect timing!

I was watching the news tonight and the NYTimes reporter was discussing the original Kavanaugh news stories they covered and when I heard this I said out loud (really I did), "Fuck you NYTimes. You are crap and I will not listen to your twisted BS any more and many other Dems agree with me!". Then I changed the channel. I have woken up and smelled the coffee.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:20 AM

9. WMD's

Shame on the Times.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 06:27 AM

10. You have to pay separately for the crossword! How messed up is that?

Thatís why I cancelled...

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Response to elias7 (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:25 AM

13. You have to pay extra for the Food section, too

Yesterday, I cancelled my digital subscription because their sloppiness is never-ending.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212468321

Take a look at response #21 for perfect examples.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 06:55 AM

11. I don't view the omission as such a big deal

forgetting an event from 35 years ago proves about nothing so omitting that relevant fact is not such a big deal. Her failure to remember is relevant but doesnít mean all that much. So I view this omission by The NY Times as not all that important.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:00 AM

12. The noise is good, it means facts still matter, and therein lies the hope for all of us

If we are to topple the sham institutions and politics that are lying to us, it will be done with facts and with the truth.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:33 AM

14. Instill read a few columnists at NYT, but their news coverage is annoying at best.

I read mostly Krugman, Friedman, Bruni sometimes, and Kristof. Linda Greenhouseís pieces on legal matters are usually very good. David Brooks is living in another century most of the time, and I refuse to read anything Maureen Dowd writes. Bret Stephens is the Republican apologist usually trying to put lipstick on the Republican Party pig.

The Times has definitely fallen in quality, and most often seems to be slanting even news headlines to make them less critical of Trumpís offenses and corruption. Of course, we donít really have any mainstream media that is completely honest in their coverage of Trump or Democrats.

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