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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 03:14 AM

US and Brazil agree to Amazon development

Source: BBC

The US and Brazil have agreed to promote private-sector development in the Amazon, during a meeting in Washington on Friday.

They also pledged a $100m (£80m) biodiversity conservation fund for the Amazon led by the private sector.

Brazil's foreign minister said opening the rainforest to economic development was the only way to protect it.
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Environmentalists will say this scheme is a ruse to open up the Amazon for mining, logging and farming.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-49694516



Yeah, I mean, what's suspicious about a fascist government inviting a kleptocratic one to promote private-sector "development" of the world's largest rain forest? What could possibly go wrong for the forest?

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muriel_volestrangler Sep 14 OP
Beartracks Sep 14 #1
BigmanPigman Sep 14 #2
OldBaldy1701E Sep 14 #3
erlewyne Sep 14 #6
MBS Sep 14 #8
Evolve Dammit Sep 14 #14
bucolic_frolic Sep 14 #4
Efilroft Sul Sep 14 #5
Cryptoad Sep 14 #7
paleotn Sep 14 #9
NickB79 Sep 14 #10
Lock him up. Sep 15 #18
NickB79 Sep 15 #19
Lock him up. Sep 15 #20
Bayard Sep 14 #11
karynnj Sep 14 #12
bronxiteforever Sep 14 #13
Takket Sep 14 #15
rockfordfile Sep 14 #16
Judi Lynn Sep 14 #17
Jedi Guy Sep 15 #21

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 03:49 AM

1. "They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum..."

There! Saved! Now let's pave paradise and get on with making money... I mean developing... I mean conserving, yeah, conserving the rain forest!!1!

<-- if needed

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:56 AM

2. How stupid do they think people are

to not see the obvious corruption?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:31 AM

3. It's not really that at all...

It is how brazen they are. They know we all see it, but they also know there is no one willing to do anything about it. So, they keep on doing whatever they want. This will continue until the American public either realizes that drastic actions are in the wind, or the experiment crumbles, as plenty of societies in history have done. It will all come down to us. Not governments, not higher powers, just us. We will have to fix it. And, based on what I am seeing, we don't want to...

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:02 AM

6. Brazil is burning down the rain forests to create soy bean.

All Trump needs to do is raise the tariffs on China.
Of course Donald will not profit from this.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:02 AM

8. YES, it's the brazenness.

Beyond horrific.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:31 PM

14. Nailed it. Thanks Old Baldy

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:55 AM

4. Biodiversity: 100 million hectare industrial park and a cactus

Tap me some aloe vera, will you?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:09 AM

5. "To save the rainforest, we have to destroy it."

Brazil's foreign minister might as well have spoken those words.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:33 AM

7. The Age of MAGA,,,,,,

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:09 AM

9. The myth

that the private sector will eventually do the right thing and doesnít need government interference to ensure it does. Thatís the greatest lie of conservatism since Reagan. Scandal after scandal, the housing collapse, the S&L meltdown, Enron, deep water horizon disaster, the opioid scandal and on and on. And yet many in this country still believe the unfettered capitalism bullshit.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:14 AM

10. Why is Trump supporting BRAZILIAN farmers, but pissing on AMERICAN farmers?

The more beef and soy they make, the less market share US farmers have.

WTF?

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:55 AM

18. So big corporations can buy the bankrupt farmers' land for...

pennies on the dollar.

It's a big club, and farmers are not in it.

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:58 AM

19. I'll have to run this by my 5 uncles

All Trump-voting, dairy/corn/soy farmers who absolutely loved him during the last election.

They've been oddly quiet the past 6 months.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #19)

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 01:02 AM

20. Tell them they've been conned by the biggest conman in History.

Tell them if they want the next Prez, House & Senate to try to save them from losing their farms, they must vote Democratic all the way down ballot, and pray it won't be too late 18 months from now.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:25 AM

11. So now tRump can claim he's the, "environmental" president

"conservation fund for the Amazon led by the private sector". How much will he make off this deal?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:31 AM

12. At the beginning of this month, my husband and I saw the NY Botanical Garden exhibit

that included a part that explained the importance of the Amazon and how they are still finding new plants there never categorized before. The main exhibit was on the work of Roberto Burle Marx, but a side exhibit covered the work done by botanists associated with the NYBT in Brazil.

The importance of that rain forest goes beyond its critical role in fighting climate change. Many not yet known species might have significant purposes. It was astonishing to see statistics on the number of plants that exist nowhere else than one of the regions in Brazil highlighted by the conservation exhibit.

The main exhibit was stunning, but the side exhibit more thought provoking.

NYT write up - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/arts/design/roberto-burle-marx-botanical-garden.html

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 11:18 AM

13. IT45 hates the natural world with a pathological vigor.

He is a stupid Saruman.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:52 PM

15. We have no money for toothpaste for kids but can do this?

Give me a Damn break.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:27 PM

16. Brazil has a dictator. I want to hear candidates talk about the criminal leader in Brazil

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:23 PM

17. Trump is as guilty as Bolsonaro in the destruction of the "world's lungs." Pure evil. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 09:30 AM

21. The Amazon is not "the lungs of the world." That's a myth.

The net flux of oxygen to the atmosphere from the Amazon rainforest is pretty much zero. That' s not to say that it's not worthwhile to protect the Amazon; it absolutely is. But the oft-repeated "lungs of the earth" thing is not factual. One expert on the Amazon even went so far as to say that it's "bullshit."

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