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Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:20 PM

Trump Shows Hurricane's Path With Apparent Doctored Bubble To Include Alabama

Source: TPM





U.S. President Donald Trump (R) references a map while talking to reporters following a briefing from officials about Hurricane Dorian in the Oval Office at the White House September 04, 2019 in Washington, DC. Trump... MORE
By Kate Riga
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September 4, 2019 2:53 pm


President Donald Trump on Wednesday displayed a map of Hurricane Dorian’s path that appeared to feature a bubble scribbled on to include Alabama, a state which Trump had earlier insisted, against direct proof, would be hit.

For reference, here’s a zoomed-in picture of Trump’s map:
JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

“It was going to be hitting directly, and it would have affected a lot of other states,” Trump said in the Oval Office Wednesday, alongside Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan. “But that was the original chart. You see, it was going to hit not only Florida, but Georgia. It was going toward the Gulf. That was what was originally projected.”

And here’s Dorian’s official path from the National Hurricane Center website (though the storm moves, it never crosses Alabama’s border and there is no black bubble):
National Hurricane Center

Since Sunday morning, Trump repeatedly and emphatically insisted that Hurricane Dorian could hit Alabama, even as meteorologists from the local and federal level — aka his own weather service — refuted the claim..........................

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-hurricane-alabama-dorian-weather-service



Trump brings in others to lie for him.



For reference, here’s a zoomed-in picture of Trump’s map:









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Reply Trump Shows Hurricane's Path With Apparent Doctored Bubble To Include Alabama (Original post)
riversedge Sep 4 OP
rurallib Sep 4 #1
William Seger Sep 4 #5
RKP5637 Sep 4 #23
groundloop Sep 4 #25
not_the_one Sep 4 #46
Doodley Sep 4 #30
PJMcK Sep 4 #32
thegoose Sep 4 #51
Botany Sep 4 #2
MBS Sep 4 #3
RKP5637 Sep 4 #24
Eliot Rosewater Sep 4 #28
RKP5637 Sep 4 #37
Botany Sep 4 #33
RKP5637 Sep 4 #36
Botany Sep 4 #40
RKP5637 Sep 4 #45
Botany Sep 4 #49
torius Sep 4 #4
Cracklin Charlie Sep 4 #6
torius Sep 4 #12
MontanaMama Sep 4 #7
RKP5637 Sep 4 #26
honest.abe Sep 4 #8
BigmanPigman Sep 4 #44
Thomas Hurt Sep 4 #9
jpak Sep 4 #10
riversedge Sep 4 #15
IronLionZion Sep 4 #11
riversedge Sep 4 #18
AtheistCrusader Sep 4 #27
riversedge Sep 4 #13
Wuddles440 Sep 4 #14
LastDemocratInSC Sep 4 #16
The Liberal Lion Sep 4 #17
left-of-center2012 Sep 4 #19
riversedge Sep 4 #20
riversedge Sep 4 #21
riversedge Sep 4 #22
Dave Starsky Sep 4 #41
Politicub Sep 4 #29
rurallib Sep 4 #31
Cartoonist Sep 4 #34
marble falls Sep 4 #35
geralmar Sep 4 #38
keithbvadu2 Sep 4 #39
Paladin Sep 4 #42
Coventina Sep 4 #43
Eugene Sep 4 #47
uppityperson Sep 4 #48
Dave Starsky Sep 4 #53
uppityperson Sep 4 #55
Flaleftist Sep 4 #50
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Sugar Smack Sep 4 #54
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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:22 PM

1. What is even more surprising is that Trump knew where Alabama is.

Must have a golf course there.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:27 PM

5. I suspect he got confused because he *didn't* quite know where Alabama is

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Response to William Seger (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:13 PM

23. I wonder, does he even know it's a state! n/t

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:18 PM

25. Actually the earliest forecasts had it crossing the Fla. peninsula....

and POSSIBLY reforming in the Gulf of Mexico (I recall seeing this on some of the computer models). This, as I recall, was when Dorian was still a tropical storm and there was still a ton of uncertainty as to its' path.

HOWEVER, this had all changed by the time tRump issued his proclamation, he apparently never bothered to get recent information. Add to that the fact that someone had 'doctored' the forecast map to align with his proclamation - you really gotta' wonder.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #25)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:26 PM

46. if he wanted to speculate, especially at that early stage...

He should have warned Kansas and Oklahoma. He has rabid supporters in those states too, with which he could "connect". It could have hit them if it had continued in a straight line (which they never do).

And if they were comparing 10 to 15 different lines of projected paths from different global weather services, show the weather service cone map of possible impact that included Alabama.

No, he was on camera (which he LOVES to be), speaking off the cuff, made shit up to impress his knuckledraggers, and blew it in a bigly way.

And before he would admit he made a mistake, he doubled down, and probably forced an underling to draw the extension. He forced an underling to break the law. It is illegal to alter official weather prediction maps for the purpose of disinformation.

None of the weather services put out that prediction map.

We need to know WHO did it, and were they told to do it by turdface.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:27 PM

30. He meant to say Atlanta, or maybe it was Alaska.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:31 PM

32. No way there would be a Trump course in Alabama

There aren't enough of Trump's "kind of people" in Alabama to support one of his ridiculous golf clubs.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:10 PM

51. He was wrong

He said, "The hurricane is going to go straight through Florida, and then to Georgia and Alabama on the right."

On the right? So they're in the middle of the ocean? Worthless shit for brains.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:23 PM

2. When does this shit show stop?

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Response to Botany (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:24 PM

3. + 1 million n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:15 PM

24. Yeah, I've been wondering the same. And the damn GOP just sits on their asses in congress,

some with stupid smiles on their faces. Others too cowardly to do anything ... and the vote is more important to them than the future of the US. What a totally F'ed up situation!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #24)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:22 PM

28. they dont just sit there they are working overtime to get him REELECTED

and I am sorry but that makes ALL of them my ENEMY

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #28)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:21 PM

37. Ditto!!! n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #24)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:35 PM

33. When I was a little kid our next door neighbor in a very middle class neighborhood was the county...

in N.W. PA and his brother was Ray Shafer, Governor of the state. You will never find a better
man ever. Ray played ball w/the kids, was very smart, a WW II vet, also he supported education,
civil rights, infrastructure, the environment, unions, and he was truly kind. Nixon had him look @
marijuana in the early 1970s so Ray got good people and looked at it and told Nixon that he should
just legalize it because we had a lot of more important problems. Nixon blew him off because pot
was a way to put blacks and hippies in jail. BTW Ray was republican.

This current group seems to be raised on Fox, Rush, and Newt and they don't give a shit about
America or the world. "They" have to know that Don is nuttier than squirrel turds but "they" get
their tax cuts, pack the courts, and get to taste sweet liberal tears.

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Response to Botany (Reply #33)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:20 PM

36. And, divided countries eventually fail! It's pathetic to watch this going on. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #36)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:16 PM

40. Putin is working that angle right now

In trying to divide America that is. The anti NFL player kneeling web sites were out of St. Petersburg, Russia. Stand for flag, stand for the troops, and stand for the anthem were all Russian operations and Trump even gave the web addresses to those sites too.

I wonder how much Fox news and Hannity are involved? Trump is an idiot no doubt but we are up against a massive operation that is so big that I can't get my head around it all. This is the biggest crime in America's history.

Sorry to

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Response to Botany (Reply #40)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:39 PM

45. I think you are right onto it!!!!! And tRump is just a dumb pawn! n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #45)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:33 PM

49. Trump came to Lebanon, Ohio last October and praised..

.... good old General Robert E Lee and that was no mistake because that area is home to the HQs of the Klan in Ohio.

Trump is dumb but he too is working the racist angle in order to divide America and to make his boss, Vladimir happy.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:25 PM

4. Now he'll nuke Alabama

to blow up its hurricane.

(and his supporters there will cheer as they get vaporized)

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Response to torius (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:29 PM

6. If by nuke, you mean...

Give them 50 quillion disaster dollars, I would agree with you.

Who resides in that tiny part of Alabama to whom he owes money or favors?

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:51 PM

12. He could do both

Nuke the fake hurricane, then send disaster dollars to his cronies to fix the damage. Hmm, maybe he does have a plan after all.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:31 PM

7. Why is this shit tolerated

by the media or anybody else for that matter? WHY?

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:19 PM

26. Most of the media doesn't give a damn as long as their P&L statements look good. There was a time

before the media became P&L centers that some really cared. Some still do today, but I think they get overshadowed. It's all about P&L these days for many and the hell with the people and the future of the US as long as they are doing OK.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:33 PM

8. I would have thought this was The Onion.

Unbelievable.

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:39 PM

44. How right you are!

Keep saying, "THIS IS NOT NORMAL, THIS IS NOT NORMAL...".

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:41 PM

9. The King is never wrong!

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Response to jpak (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:53 PM

15. and Trumps cone.......

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:48 PM

11. Why lie about such things?

They're saying it's going up the Atlantic coast towards the Carolinas now, not Alabama.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:55 PM

18. umm. Why does Trump LIE??

His ego needs constant feeding.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:21 PM

27. Broken narcisissm circuit. He CAN'T allow himself to be wrong. He can't process the possiblility.

Even when he rhetorically says 'I might be mistaken' or something like that, it's bookended by shade and innuendo that shows he doesn't really think he's wrong. No. Matter. What.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:53 PM

13. And it's against federal law.



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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:53 PM

14. Good God!

Would someone PLEASE put a stop to this insanity! Pelosi needs to make nicey-nice and cut a deal with Putin so this imbecile can be removed from our White House. I can't take much more of this buffoonery.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:54 PM

16. President Tufnel says his hurricane chart goes to 11

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:54 PM

17. We are at war with Alabama

we have always been at war with Alabama
-Ministry of Truth


Seriously tho, even when the track showed Dorian heading into the Gulf it wasn't headed to Alabama.
I mean why lie about this. Just say mistakes were made and move on.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:01 PM

19. "It was headed for the Gulf but it took a right turn"

No.
From the beginning they said it was headed UP the coast.

I remember because my brother lives on the Carolina coast.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:03 PM

20. Nicole Wallace on msnbc now reporting on this!

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Response to riversedge (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:04 PM

21. Guest saying we do not know WHO altered that map.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:05 PM

22. same quest saying it is obviously a sensitive issue for Trump

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Response to riversedge (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:22 PM

41. Oh, please. Trump altered it.

Though he may very well have had some lackey with "the very best" art skills do it for him, because had no idea where Alabama was.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:22 PM

29. I knew he was going to do something like this

I knew it - show something with Alabama being in the cone.

I just didn’t expect it to be in crayon.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:28 PM

31. What was the term someone used (KellyAnn?) on their information

Alternative facts?

Sounds like bullshit and lies to me.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:40 PM

34. Lindsey needs to get to the bottom of this

Get Trump under oath.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:56 PM

35. You'd think someone at the WH could have photoshpped that, instead of amatuer night sharpy-ing.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:09 PM

39. They love New Yorker Trump who calls them dumb southerners.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:36 PM

42. What has to happen for impeachment hearings to commence?

What abominable, illegal, unspeakable actions need to be committed, beyond the open-and-obvious travesties already recorded, for this dirty little man to be swept out of office? Remember back in the Good Old Days---a couple of years ago---when we had some standards of behavior, and a sense of outrage when those standards were breached? Are we now so tired and corrupted that trump can do what he damn well pleases, without fear of reprisal? You have to ask yourself: Is trump what we deserve?

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:36 PM

43. Pathetic. n/t

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:15 PM

47. Every day, the Trump Gang explores new dimensions of crazy.

Anything, anything to avoid admitting a mistake.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:20 PM

48. Here's another picture he's using in a tweet. Wtf

This was the originally projected path of the Hurricane in its early stages. As you can see, almost all models predicted it to go through Florida also hitting Georgia and Alabama. I accept the Fake News apologies!


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Response to uppityperson (Reply #48)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:17 PM

53. That's a state map, issued days before his initial stupid statement.

It even says at the bottom of the goddamn thing that the NHC maps supersede it.

The NHC never showed the hurricane hitting Alabama. Especially on the day that dumbass issued his initial ignorant gaffe.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #53)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:05 PM

55. Covered in scribbles

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:05 PM

50. Watch him start using a sharpie on charts, graphs, surveys etc

To make him appear more popular and the economy in better shape.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:12 PM

52. 😆

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:38 PM

54. Remember laughing at Dan Quayle for "potatoe"? How it was a big deal then?

Those were our salad days.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 AM

56. Hmmmm.....his drawing looks somewhat phallic

Call me paranoid, (if you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention), but I'm thinking if he sent disaster relief funds to Alabama, they could be quietly diverted to his wall building.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 03:58 PM

57. This was the gauntlet to THE ONION right?



Please let their be lost footage of this dope doing the sharpie!

(on the map)

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