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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:12 AM

John Bercow says he will stop Boris Johnson from closing Parliament to secure Brexit

Source: The Telegraph

John Bercow said on Tuesday that he would refuse to let Boris Johnson take Britain out of the EU by suspending Parliament.

The Commons Speaker said he would fight any attempt to prorogue Parliament “with every bone in my body”.

He also said that MPs can stop Britain leaving without a deal at the end of October, putting him on a collision course with the Prime Minister’s chief strategist, Dominic Cummings.

Mr Bercow dismissed suggestions that he would stand down in the short term as Speaker.

Read more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/13/john-bercow-says-will-stop-boris-johnson-closing-parliament/



Boris Johnson has threatened to suspend Parliament in anticipation of a new Election, which would drag out past October 30, forcing an automatic no-deal Brexit.

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Reply John Bercow says he will stop Boris Johnson from closing Parliament to secure Brexit (Original post)
brooklynite Wednesday OP
bucolic_frolic Wednesday #1
rurallib Wednesday #2
BlueMTexpat Wednesday #3
rurallib Wednesday #4
LiberalFighter Wednesday #11
proActivist Wednesday #12
BlueMTexpat Wednesday #14
Mike 03 Wednesday #5
Yavin4 Wednesday #6
luvtheGWN Wednesday #8
proActivist Wednesday #13
NoMoreRepugs Wednesday #7
BlueIdaho Wednesday #9
bronxiteforever Wednesday #10
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:23 AM

1. Fortunately

Trump can't spell, pronounce, or comprehend "prorogue".

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:28 AM

2. Sounds like the British form of a constitutional crisis

How long did it take Boris to do this? Less than a month?

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Response to rurallib (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:42 AM

3. Right now, his majority in Parliament

is down to one.

And even that could go. He could be the shortest-serving PM in the history of England and the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/02/what-would-it-take-for-boris-johnson-to-lose-his-majority-of-one-tories-labour

What would it take for Boris Johnson to lose his majority of one?

There is a good analysis of the situation at the link.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:54 AM

4. Thanks!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:39 PM

11. Please make it happen.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:21 PM

12. And the last of "the UK", if

the other kingdoms (or whatever they are) decide to stick with the EU.

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Response to proActivist (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:34 PM

14. That is a real possibility, at least

for Scotland and Northern Ireland. Wales narrowly voted FOR Brexit, albeit mostly in rural areas.

Here is a Guardian article, describing a scenario where Scotland and Northern Ireland would remain.

A semi-Brexit, with just England and Wales leaving the EU, is the solution

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/17/semi-brexit-england-wales-leaving-eu-solution

Unfortunately, poor London City, which also voted to remain in the EU, would be forced to stay with England.

Here is an interesting "reality check" article about that: https://newfinancial.org/brexit-and-the-city-a-10-point-reality-check/

The article is from 2017, but many of the points are still valid today.


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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:04 AM

5. Is Bercow's position safe?

I've always really liked him, but I remember a couple of years ago there was an unsuccessful effort to remove him (it was really emotional--he loves his job).

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:07 AM

6. I learned a new word today.

"prorogue"

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:45 AM

8. In the Parliamentary system of constitutional monarchy

the Prime Minister's ability to "prorogue" Parliament is only with the permission of the Crown (in Britain's case, the Queen, and in Canada's case, the Governor-General, who is the Queen's representative).

Given that there are some indications that Queen Elizabeth is not terribly enthusiastic about Brexit, it's unlikely she would give her permission. No doubt her weekly conferences with the Prime Minister (Tuesdays, I believe) have been used to discreetly show her displeasure over such a move.

Boorish Boris may think he has all the dictatorial discretion of the U.S. President. He does not.

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:23 PM

13. And even then, the US president

doesn't really have much doctoral discretion either .

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:33 AM

7. The New World Order of tRump types seems fragile - Yes??

Blowhards with no substance and no real policies.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

9. Proroguing Parliament

Sounds like the shortest route to a no confidence vote for the Tories.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:46 AM

10. Kick and recommend.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:40 PM

15. I love pierogis!

Not the same thing, right?

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