HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » TENNESSEE LAWMAKERS CONSI...

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:45 PM

TENNESSEE LAWMAKERS CONSIDER BANNING ABORTION ONCE A WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT

Source: Newsweek


BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER ON 8/12/19 AT 3:29 PM EDT

Tennessee lawmakers are considering a total ban on abortion by cutting off access to the procedure once a woman knows she's pregnant. If the legislation is passed, it will be one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the United States.

State senators will reconvene this week to discuss a "fetal heartbeat" bill, which would prohibit abortion as early as six weeks into pregnancy. The measure was passed by the House of Representatives in March but stalled in the Senate.

More than 20 witnesses from both sides of the abortion debate will testify on the issue before the state's judiciary committee on Monday and Tuesday. During the two-day session, the committee will also discuss an 11-page amendment to the original fetal heartbeat bill that includes a drastic change to the definition of fetal viability.

Under Roe v. Wade, the Constitution protects a woman's right to abortion prior to the viability of a fetus. The Supreme Court considered viability to be the point at which a fetus can survive on its own outside of the womb, which is usually between 24 to 28 weeks into pregnancy.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-considers-abortion-ban-when-pregnancy-detected-1453882?piano_t=1

37 replies, 2162 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 37 replies Author Time Post
Reply TENNESSEE LAWMAKERS CONSIDER BANNING ABORTION ONCE A WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT (Original post)
Judi Lynn Monday OP
blugbox Monday #1
Jedi Guy Monday #29
rampartc Monday #2
Judi Lynn Monday #7
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Tuesday #33
rampartc Tuesday #34
sakabatou Monday #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Monday #4
csziggy Tuesday #32
SamKnause Monday #5
cp Monday #6
irisblue Monday #17
rurallib Monday #21
bdamomma Monday #22
dawg day Monday #27
sdfernando Monday #8
bdamomma Monday #9
Botany Monday #10
wave_maker Monday #13
TwilightZone Monday #18
blm Monday #11
lonely bird Monday #12
rzemanfl Monday #30
procon Monday #14
IronLionZion Monday #15
TygrBright Monday #16
bucolic_frolic Monday #19
ancianita Monday #20
paleotn Monday #23
MuseRider Monday #24
RobinA Tuesday #35
MuseRider Tuesday #37
displacedtexan Monday #25
Eliot Rosewater Monday #26
badhair77 Monday #28
bubbazero Tuesday #31
roamer65 Tuesday #36

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:48 PM

1. Of course I'll just ask it out loud...

How do you know you even want/need an abortion unless you ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE PREGNANT?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to blugbox (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:34 PM

29. That was my first thought, as well. Amazingly asinine law, isn't it?

I guess women in Tennessee will have to walk into Planned Parenthood and say, "I'd like to get an abortion just in case I'm pregnant." Presumably this will be followed by a wink and a nudge.

I feel like we're all stuck in a surrealist version of the reality we knew prior to January 20, 2017. If what we perceive as reality truly is a Matrix-esque simulation, the programmers have a very sick sense of humor.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:49 PM

2. but its ok as long as she doesn't know?

what will they think of next?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to rampartc (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:52 PM

7. Similar to Catch 22. Unbelievable. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to rampartc (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:14 AM

33. To comply with this stupid law, women will have to sign up for the "Abortion of the Month Club."

Or they'll have to take the morning after pill with their daily multivitamin.

Personally, I think the guy who gets the girl pregnant will have half his wages garnished for the next 18 years, with the money going to the woman. And every legislator who voted for the law will have the same obligation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #33)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:19 AM

34. it is as if these girls are murderous criminals

who are acting completely alone.

after further review. I suppose the boys are too busy with their guns to actually help in the procreation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:49 PM

3. Ah, yes, the forced birthers

I hope they all take a long walk of a short pier.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:51 PM

4. No problem. Just schedule an abortion every month.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:13 AM

32. In 1970, my first year of college I got a newsletter from a woman' group

It was my first real exposure to frank discussions of birth control and abortion.

This was prior to Roe v. Wade and not long after women were allowed to obtain birth control without permission from their spouse or parents.

One of the things they advocated was that women basically evacuate themselves every month and gave explicit instructions on creating a vacuum setup with a jar and some tubing. I never used it and the newsletter is long gone from my collection of papers, so I don't remember much of the details.

I do remember thinking it was not a bad idea, especially since I was already experiencing difficulties with my periods. I was just not in a living situation where I had the privacy to try it.

Aha! The internet is a wonderful thing - here is an article about menstrual extraction with a set up like I remember:


https://www.womenshealthspecialists.org/self-help/menstrual-extraction/

If women who don't want a pregnancy and who are in places where abortion is no longer available did this every month, the anti-choice assholes would not be able to control their bodies.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:52 PM

5. Evil ignorant fucks !!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:52 PM

6. How about before a man has sex with her?

How about making it mandatory in Tennessee for every man to wear a condom every time?

I got angry reading the headline. Take it off women. Make men, all men, legally responsible.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cp (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:32 PM

17. Mandatory vasectomies. Once you test clear in ejaculate no sperm, you can have sex

Again.
Condoms can fail.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to irisblue (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:29 PM

21. just what I thought the I read the OP

girl can't get pregnant then there is no need for abortion. Can't get pregnant without sperm.
Seems so logical to me

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to irisblue (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:41 PM

22. or cut it off

sorry to drastic whatever happened to its a decision between the dr. and his patient??? bastards have no business in women's medical issues.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cp (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:16 PM

27. Yes. If men reliably wore condoms, unwanted pregnancies would be limited in number

... and few women would need abortions.

But these anti-abortion people are really more into forced-birth... I don't think they want to prevent unwanted pregnancies, but rather force women to procreate.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:53 PM

8. Why would someone that doesn't know they are pregnant be looking for an abortion?!?!?

Yeah, I know...rethuglican thinking at its best!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:54 PM

9. Women have been targeted

for all time. Sickening. Gilead here we come

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:58 PM

10. These fuckers must know that the elections are rigged to try to pull off this shit.

Why would any woman ever vote GOP? BTW as been said before in this thread the
only time a woman seeks an abortion is after she finds out she is pregnant.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Botany (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:09 PM

13. This !

Nt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Botany (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:32 PM

18. Nah, they're playing to their audience.

55% of TN voters are pro-life, one of the highest percentages in the country.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/compare/views-about-abortion/by/state/

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:06 PM

11. "No difference between the 2 parties."some said

And ďDems canít scare us with Supreme Court, anymore.Ē Some said.

The price for that arrogance is being paid by those vulnerable and being targeted.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:08 PM

12. Can we pass a bill...

Banning Tennessee?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lonely bird (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:51 PM

30. I will get right on that after I wash socks. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:14 PM

14. Ban male erections. Problem solved.

Forced, involuntary neutering would be a good alternative for those weak fellas lacking good character and a strong will. Worked extremely well for my doggo; just sayin'.

Men keep blaming women after they get her pregnant. Maybe it's time they man up and take the responsibility they keep trying to foist off on women.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:20 PM

15. How about abortions for people who are not pregnant

and never will be, like many conservative men?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:26 PM

16. So Tennessee women need to make bi-monthly standing appointments for abortions?

I can just see it... "I'd like appointments in February, April, June, August, October and December, please."

"Pregnancy checks?"

"No, abortions."

"Are you pregnant?"

"I have no idea, and I'd rather not know."

amusedly,
Bright

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:57 PM

19. Not just control of your body, control of your mind!

Bet they won't ban assault rifles once you know how to pull the trigger!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:02 PM

20. The Family moves in from all sides.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:00 PM

23. What's next?

A full ban on women working, reading, having bank accounts? Why not just go full on Gilead. I'd have more respect than this pissy crap. Just admit you're a bunch of misogynist, fascist scumbags and be done with it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:43 PM

24. Sorry up front, this is ticking me off big time.

One damned thing we ask men to do, wear a fucking condom and here we are still in this mess.

It is ALL in our hands forever and ever always. From the moment of conception changing our bodies and our minds and our lives in huge ways and if we do not want it we pay the price then too. Abortion does not bother most of us women I don't think but it certainly does some women so there is that as well. Men can and do choose to walk away. They don't want anything to do with this leaving us with all the responsibility. Often broke and tired and sad that we cannot do better while they so often walk away. We ask you to take responsibility with ONE DAMNED THING and if you don't we pay big time with our lives because no matter how much you love or don't your children, you are in the game for life.

But but but it is not as sensitive with a condom on! Cry me a river, you think it isn't the same for us? We just don't want our lives taken away so you can have a little more sensitivity when you have sex.

Sorry, I am fine but this did effect my life long ago. I will carry it always even if the carrying is not sadness about the situation. Mostly it is anger that I had to deal all alone as a kid with this because, "Oh baby, it just does not feel as good. Just this once ok?"

Good lord, one would think that at some point the responsibility for one tiny part of this could be taken up like big boys.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MuseRider (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 12:16 PM

35. Sorry This Happened To You

Personally, I've always been happy with the responsibility in my hands, but I'm a control freak, I guess. If the result is me being pregnant, I don't want the control to be in some man's hands, I'll handle pregnancy, yes or no, thank you. If there is a pregnancy, I'll handle what happens to it, and the born baby if there is to be one. In fact, had I gotten accidentally pregnant and decided to have the baby, I can foresee circumstances where he would not even have known. My body, my baby.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RobinA (Reply #35)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:58 PM

37. Circumstances

17 years old, pre Roe v Wade.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:01 PM

25. Ahhh! The Magic 8 Ball Abortion Law!

All signs point to NO

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:12 PM

26. Filthy fucking men making adult decisions about others when they clearly cant manage their

own anger issues

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:30 PM

28. Well, then I guess men need to manage their sperm.

Women just happen to have the egg. Itís the sperm thatís invading. Lots of ways that can be done but some seem pretty brutal and I just ate so Iíll let it to the imagination.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:35 AM

31. Just a really STUPID thought

Been a real long 2 weeks, I are not so brights to begin with, but I would have sworn, and was fully expecting your topic to be a joke- thing of the ONION. But no, once again I were wrong. OK, so to make it easier for weese bottom of the intellectual totem pole types, may I offer this idear. If your proposed law sounds like it is a joke from the ONION or any other sarcasm dependent publication, THEN IT PROBABLY IS A STUPID LAW AND SHOULD NOT BE ENACTED.....thanks mz Lynn for the report, reminds me that my state isn't the only one with a stupid legislature.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:56 PM

36. Dumb fucks.

Plan B and other abortion drugs can be shipped discreetly by mail.

Welcome to the Internet age, you pieces of shit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread