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Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:42 PM

Nearly 84,000 duplicate voter records found in audit of California's 'motor voter' system

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Source: LA Times

California’s ambitious effort to automate voter registration at Department of Motor Vehicle offices produced almost 84,000 duplicate records and more than twice that number with political party mistakes, according to an audit released Friday by state officials.

The analysis covered just the first five months of the new “motor voter” program, which was launched in April 2018. It found a wide array of problems with the rollout of the DMV system, including a limited amount of testing as well as inconsistent and confusing lines of communication between the state agencies involved in its creation. Many of the findings align with documents reported by the Los Angeles Times in an investigation earlier this year of the motor voter program.

Auditors reviewed more than 3 million voter registration files, comparing the records from both DMV and California’s secretary of state. They found 83,684 duplicate voter registration records, a mistake attributed to inconsistencies in what was listed for voters’ political party preferences.

“This action resulted in no impact to voter eligibility,” Keely Martin Bosler, director of the state Department of Finance, wrote in a letter on Friday to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Cabinet secretary.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-09/duplicate-voter-records-audit-california-motor-voter-system



Betcha the Republicans are going to latch on to this report.

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Reply Nearly 84,000 duplicate voter records found in audit of California's 'motor voter' system (Original post)
Zorro Aug 9 OP
SHRED Aug 9 #1
Zorro Aug 9 #2
SHRED Aug 9 #4
still_one Aug 9 #5
groundloop Aug 9 #3
not_the_one Aug 11 #22
ripcord Aug 9 #6
FreeState Aug 9 #9
ripcord Aug 9 #12
sdfernando Aug 12 #28
yellowdogintexas Aug 9 #13
shanti Aug 12 #27
LiberalArkie Aug 9 #7
More_Cowbell Aug 9 #11
FakeNoose Aug 10 #18
SunSeeker Aug 9 #8
machoneman Aug 10 #20
Dream Girl Aug 9 #10
diva77 Aug 10 #14
greyl Aug 10 #15
susanna Aug 10 #16
whistler162 Aug 10 #17
JustFiveMoreMinutes Aug 10 #19
olddad65 Aug 11 #21
apnu Aug 12 #23
Baclava Aug 12 #24
JudyM Aug 12 #25
underthematrix Aug 12 #26

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:46 PM

1. They corrected it

What's the issue?

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Response to SHRED (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:47 PM

2. Perception

When did Republicans ever care if an issue was corrected?

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Response to Zorro (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:50 PM

4. Point taken

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Response to SHRED (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:51 PM

5. Exactly. They audited it and corrected it

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:49 PM

3. VOTER FRAUD - VOTER FRAUD - VOTER FRAUD - VOTER FRAUD - VOTER FRAUD

Yep, any little inconsistency at all will bring out the wolves calling for voter id laws. It sounds like this is being properly taken care of.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 06:32 PM

22. ELECTION FRAUD - ELECTION FRAUD - ELECTION FRAUD


Which is the only way they can win...

We will fix ours.

What will they do, other than double down and use what they have proved to work?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:53 PM

6. This is just business as usual at the California DMV nt

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Response to ripcord (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:23 PM

9. CA DMV is awful

I tried to renew my license in January this year. Two months later I still had not received it and then finally received a letter saying they messed up (that it was in a batch of mistakes) and I should relieve it in a week.

Three weeks after that I received the same letter about my voter registration not being completed due to a mistake on their end.

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Response to FreeState (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:00 PM

12. Last time I waqs there I spent 6 hours waiting

And it took 4 minutes to deal with my problem.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 01:45 PM

28. Did you make an appointment in advance?

Last time I had to renew my license, new picture and everything, I made the appointment online. Showed up at the designated time. They were running a bit late but I was in and out of there in about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes.

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Response to FreeState (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:06 PM

13. Everybody's DMV is horrible

Remember, the Portal to Hell in the tv show Reapers is the DMV

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Response to FreeState (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 01:21 PM

27. I was there just last week

to get my Real ID and CDL renewed. It was packed as usual, but only a 20 minute wait, as I'd scheduled the appointment a month earlier. Even filled out the application online before the appointment, which made it faster. Definitely recommend an appointment, as I do remember the long waits!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:06 PM

7. I will happen all the time.

How many people move and register to vote in a new town and not drive back to the old town and cancel their old registration?

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:47 PM

11. Yeah, I had no luck with my old county taking me off the roll

I called them when I moved to a different county. They told me that they don't remove people, but that after I hadn't voted in that county for a while, my name would just fall off. I still sometimes get voter information from them, mailed to me 75 miles away in another county.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:50 PM

18. Right, that's exactly what is happening

People have to update their drivers licenses but they never bother with their voting registration. Then they find out they aren't registered to vote, and quickly make a new one without changing or deleting the old one. It's not a massive effort to commit voter fraud, like the Repukes make it out to be.

The mistakes are made by voters from both parties and independents too.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:18 PM

8. That does not mean people voted twice. There is no evidence of double voting.

Duplicate registrations happen when people move or don't realize they're already registered. I'm actually surprised it's only 84,000. CA is a big state with 40 million people.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:23 PM

20. Exactly! This means nothing in regards to actual voting. But yes, the Republiscums....

will cry bloody murder anyway w/o any facts at all.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:44 PM

10. So? BFD...

Does that mean people are voting twice??? I think not.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:13 AM

14. The DMV voter registration form is extremely confusing and at the top of it, it says that

you are not allowed to make any mistakes (very intimidating) as well.

I had to call the DMV to get clarification. It must've been designed by rethuglicans -- it's the worst form I've ever seen, and I've seen lotsa forms.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:42 AM

15. Zero. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:14 AM

16. You are likely right.

Yet, nearly all of the voter fraud cases in this country - documented - are from the Republican side.

At this point, I don't care anymore because the bad faith from the Republicans will continue unabated no matter what Democrats do. Bottom line, no pearl clutching here. Over it.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:13 AM

17. than 3% error rate not bad

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:03 PM

19. Sheesh... it's like 'purging records' and 'duplicates'

Having worked in databases for two many decades...

Yes, it happens... OLD RECORDS need to be removed and DUPLICATES MERGED... it's not that the duplicate or old records are BEING ACCESSED illegally... just it's time to clean up! Sigh

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:03 AM

21. I'm one of the duplicates

because my name on my voter registration doesn't match the name on my vehicle registration. On one my first name is listed s Kenneth and on the other, it is Ken. So I can be called for jury duty under either name. Same address on both.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:44 PM

23. That's 0.028% of 3 million entries.

But Republicans will freak out all the same.

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Response to apnu (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:52 PM

24. Proof of Voter Fraud! California Collusion! Impeach Nancy Pelosi! LOL

Ayep

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 01:19 PM

26. Let me remind people that this is the way GOOD government works.

The government has systems in place to assess its effectiveness in implementing its policies. They find mistakes, errors, etc. They take responsibility. They notify those affected. They make their mistakes, glitches public. They inform the public what corrective actions they' e taken. Finally, they let the public know what changes they've made to the system to reduce the risk of similar mistakes, errors, glitches in the future. The media (L.A. Times) provides the sunshine to ensure accountability. Thank you media.

My unsolicited advice to my fellow voters. Stop reacting with outrage. Use your critical thinking skills. It will make us more civil and our communities much much safer.

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