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Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:23 AM

Walloped by heat wave, Greenland sees massive ice melt

Source: AP

The heat wave that smashed high temperature records in five European countries a week ago is now over Greenland, accelerating the melting of the island’s ice sheet and causing massive ice loss in the Arctic.
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The area of the Greenland ice sheet that is showing indications of melt has been growing daily, and hit a record 56.5% for this year on Wednesday, said Ruth Mottram, a climate scientist with the Danish Meteorological Institute. She says that’s expected to expand and peak on Thursday before cooler temperatures slow the pace of the melt.

More than 10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons) of ice was lost to the oceans by surface melt on Wednesday alone, creating a net mass ice loss of some 197 billion tons (217 billion U.S. tons) from Greenland in July, she said.



Read more: https://www.apnews.com/65694195c91d4b62b275bd14a6955b4c



“When people talk about the average global temperature increasing by a little more than 1 degree (Celsius), that’s not a huge amount to notice if you’re sitting in Hamburg or London, but that’s a global average and it’s much greater in the polar regions,”

And we have a fair amount of our population dumbed down by the (right-wing) media, who are just itching to find a reason to add more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.

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Reply Walloped by heat wave, Greenland sees massive ice melt (Original post)
ffr Aug 3 OP
Recursion Aug 3 #1
lapfog_1 Aug 3 #2
safeinOhio Aug 3 #3
NurseJackie Aug 3 #4
Delphinus Aug 3 #5
dalton99a Aug 3 #6
eppur_se_muova Aug 3 #7
BigmanPigman Aug 3 #8
dixiegrrrrl Aug 4 #10
BigmanPigman Aug 4 #11
dixiegrrrrl Aug 4 #12
BigmanPigman Aug 5 #13
dixiegrrrrl Aug 5 #14
BigmanPigman Aug 5 #15
SammyWinstonJack Aug 3 #9

Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:37 AM

1. Welp

I guess this is where I say it's been nice knowing at least several of you.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:37 AM

2. 41 trillion gallons of water added to the ocean

or about 7,000 gallons of water per person on the planet

just in july 2019... from just greenland.

tipping point... the Arctic ocean may well be ice free by September

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:35 AM

3. It'll take Mar-a-lago under water.

That might not be so far off.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:17 AM

4. I guess I'll soon have oceanfront property.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:22 AM

5. Does anyone know why ...

this paragraph - or more to the point - these numbers are written the way they are? Why is it 10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons)?

More than 10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons) of ice was lost to the oceans by surface melt on Wednesday alone, creating a net mass ice loss of some 197 billion tons (217 billion U.S. tons) from Greenland in July, she said.

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Response to Delphinus (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 09:46 AM

6. Looks like metric tons vs. short (U.S.) tons

U.S. ton (short ton): 2000 lb (907.2 kg)
Metric ton (also written as tonne): 2204 lb (1000 kg)

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Response to Delphinus (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 09:52 AM

7. Yes, it's metric tons -- should have used "tonnes".

The British ton is the long ton, which is 2240 pounds, and the U.S. ton is the short ton which is 2000 pounds. Both tons are actually defined in the same way. ... There is also an third type of ton called the metric ton, equal to 1000 kilograms, or approximately 2204 pounds. The metric ton is officially called tonne.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:13 PM

8. This recent melt increase sea levels by 1/2 mm.

That is a lot! Places are seeing records break by 3° and 4° which is quite a bit. This is happening faster and bigger than predicted....the ice melts, reflecting more light (another problem) causing more CO2, etc. This is increasing CO2 exponentially. Last night on the news I listened to a person discussing this and showing videos of the melting ice and he was not being an alarmist, but a scientist who is reporting the facts and showing us the reality of how our current situation is shaping up. He said all of these extreme heat waves is definitely from Climate Change. We are living in it now....the future is NOW.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:45 PM

10. well over 11 years ago, I read of the relationship between


Greenland glaciers and the Gulf stream.

A whole lot of current comforts, and weather, will change from melts like this, not in a good way.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:53 PM

11. Is it related of atmospheric rivers?

I know that the heat and currents from Northern Africa has been feeding into the currents that lead to Europe and is the reason why different areas on Earth will feel Climate Change more than others. Is the Gulf Stream considered a current or an atmospheric river?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:44 PM

12. I should have been more clear

The Gulf Stream is a water current.
It's extremely important to the global climate because it provides moderating temperatures on neighboring land areas of the east coast of North America, the coasts of Western Europe and northwestern Africa, and other coastal areas along its path.
the more fresh melted water that it runs into in the north, the less flow, eventually, of the warmer gulf stream to those those countries.





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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:09 AM

13. I get it now. THANKS!

Have you seen this...

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
· Aug 3
A massive heat wave has caused the Greenland ice sheet to melt at rates not projected until 2070.

We are in a climate emergency. Vote accordingly. (link: https://apnews.com/65694195c91d4b62b275bd14a6955b4c) apnews.com/65694195c91d4b…

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 01:58 PM

14. exactly the scenario that screws up the Gulf stream.


which in turn changes the environment for all sorts of sea life around the entire Atlantic basin.
and will effect hurricane births off the African coast.

also.....
Every climate change report includes the sentence " much earlier/sooner/faster" than predicted.
which indicates, among other things, that the impact predictions are often focused on
one area of the whole. Kinda like the blind men and the elephant analogy.

Some good writers of climate change-driven, politically astute science fiction
have looked at the whole elephant and describe very unpleasant realities.
One I like is Kim Stanley Robinson.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 03:03 PM

15. That is why I wrote that the future is now...

not 2040 or 2070. It is too late to change it much. There is so much already in progress that if the whole planet stopped every kind of factor related to Climate Change that it would still take many years to stop entirely. Now we have to slow it down and adapt (good luck with that when greedy governments rule the planet).

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:12 PM

9. Bye bye.

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