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Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

Pompeo downplays climate change, suggests 'people move to different places'

Source: CNN

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo downplayed climate change as a longstanding trend, suggesting that that modern societies could adapt to a changing environment, possibly with people moving to different places.

"The climate's been changing a long time. There's always changes that take place," Pompeo said.
"Societies reorganize, we move to different places, we develop technology and innovation," he added. "I am convinced, I am convinced that we will do the things necessary as the climate changes."

The comments aren't Pomepo's first foray into controversial climate assessments.

In May, Pompeo praised the Arctic's rapidly shrinking sea levels for their subsequent economic opportunities, despite continued warnings about the catastrophic effects of climate change.
"Steady reductions in sea ice are opening new passageways and new opportunities for trade -- this could potentially slash the time it takes to travel between Asia and the West by as much as 20 days," he said during remarks in Rovaniemi, Finland.

"Arctic sea lanes could become the 21st century Suez and Panama Canals."



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/pompeo-climate-change-washington-times/index.html

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Reply Pompeo downplays climate change, suggests 'people move to different places' (Original post)
left-of-center2012 Jun 7 OP
democratisphere Jun 7 #1
walkingman Jun 7 #2
Roy Rolling Jun 8 #21
comradebillyboy Jun 9 #54
walkingman Jun 9 #56
comradebillyboy Jun 9 #57
Bengus81 Jun 10 #63
applegrove Jun 7 #3
Dennis Donovan Jun 7 #4
certainot Jun 7 #6
hatrack Jun 7 #15
certainot Jun 7 #5
DBoon Jun 7 #7
ancianita Jun 8 #38
NRaleighLiberal Jun 7 #8
Wellstone ruled Jun 7 #9
Chicago1980 Jun 7 #10
truthisfreedom Jun 7 #11
paleotn Jun 7 #12
Rural_Progressive Jun 8 #33
raccoon Jun 9 #53
paleotn Jun 9 #55
stopbush Jun 7 #13
Kurt V. Jun 9 #51
hatrack Jun 7 #14
rockfordfile Jun 8 #16
airplaneman Jun 8 #17
global1 Jun 8 #18
Eugene Jun 8 #19
0rganism Jun 8 #20
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 8 #22
Hortensis Jun 9 #44
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 9 #59
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 8 #23
nitpicker Jun 8 #24
True Blue American Jun 8 #27
Lulu KC Jun 8 #25
True Blue American Jun 8 #26
Lulu KC Jun 8 #37
True Blue American Jun 8 #40
Lulu KC Jun 8 #41
True Blue American Jun 8 #42
Lulu KC Jun 9 #45
True Blue American Jun 9 #52
Jim__ Jun 8 #28
Bengus81 Jun 10 #64
Farmer-Rick Jun 8 #29
ck4829 Jun 8 #30
NickB79 Jun 8 #31
ck4829 Jun 9 #47
world wide wally Jun 8 #32
area51 Jun 8 #34
jayschool2013 Jun 8 #35
Nitram Jun 8 #36
ck4829 Jun 9 #48
The Liberal Lion Jun 8 #39
Kashkakat v.2.0 Jun 8 #43
ck4829 Jun 9 #50
struggle4progress Jun 9 #46
ck4829 Jun 9 #49
yonder Jun 9 #58
SCVDem Jun 9 #60
Raine Jun 9 #61
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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:16 PM

1. And this guy is the Secretary of State.?

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

2. Might as well be a circus clown - Trump has a record of choosing the best people (ex. Rick Perry)

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Response to walkingman (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:40 AM

21. First Migration

All Republican climate-deniers move out of Washington, DC.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:43 AM

54. Compared to Trump's other appointments Perry is the

model of integrity and competence. I'm surprised he's lasted so long.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:13 PM

56. Having lived with his (Perry) legacy in Texas since the mid 80's and seeing how it

changed Texas from a people oriented state to a "business friendly" state I think he is despicable. I would argue that Texas might be the GOP flagship that supported the ideology for anti-environment, perpetual war, "W" Bush of course, and he left the state firmly in the hands of like-minded people. If there is one state that more responsible for the mess we find ourselves these days, now sure who it would be. No Perry has no integrity or competence - simply a career politician who represents the worst of political tribalism.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:16 PM

57. I agree Perry is awful, but I am comparing him to Trump's

other appointment who are all even worse than he is.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:53 AM

63. He's from Kansas so you get this kind of SHIT............

Now we have a Sedgwick County Commissioner (no doubt BOUGHT and paid for by the Koch Cartel) wanting a vote to make wind generation ILLEGAL in all of Sedgwick County.

The old "aircraft might hit them" routine--and maybe some dead birds thrown in too. Never mind that just 10 miles out or so we have 1300 foot TV antenna's that have been there since the 50's and have yet to be hit.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

3. Easy enough for him to say as he minimizes the slow starvation death

farmers are going through around the equator and if they just move they end up traumatized by violence and poverty along the route. It is like Bush II with his "they were told to leave New Orleans" excuse for others to not feel sorry for them. That went well. Statements like this are just meant to separate us from our fellow human beings.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:21 PM

4. 30 years from now, his legacy will be shit...

...like every other climate change denier. I hope a plaque will be placed on every seawall, in half-mile segments, listing the name of every climate-denying politician who, not only ignored the threat, but were active liars about it.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:29 PM

6. one shitty part is we let 88 major universities support 260 of the loudest limbaugh/GWdenying

radio stations in the country

those schools have no excuse not to find apolitical and more responsible radio stations to broadcast sports on

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

15. Seawall? Don't you mean the Diving Park?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:24 PM

5. what a stupid ignorant motherfucking republican

no clue

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:29 PM

7. Just don't try to migrate to the USA

of Italy, Hungary, Poland, or any other country with a right wing nationalist climate change denying government

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Response to DBoon (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:42 PM

38. +100

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:34 PM

8. the abject stupidity and ignorance of these people is truly breathtaking.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

9. Frank Luntz talking points.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:03 PM

10. Move to different places...

Like the migrants making their way here from Guatemala?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:04 PM

11. Opportunities for trade. Between countries in complete crisis.

Such a lovely black vision these cynical bastards have adopted as they snigger up their sleeves at the little plebes.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:06 PM

12. Ugh!

He doesn't get it. He just doesn't get it. We're talking climate change well beyond the little ice age. Well beyond the medieval warm period. We're talking climate shocks humans haven't seen since the younger dryas. A time that hammered Homo sapien populations. Much of the middle latitudes uninhabitable even by Mad Max. Taiga, muskeg and other soils in newly warmed, higher latitudes will take centuries to become arable, if ever. With 7+ billion humans, it's a recipe for disaster beyond anything Hollywood could dream up. Oh, and that little patch of security he and his ilk are banking on in New Zealand? Forget it. They can't run and they can't hide.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:18 AM

33. Actually we're talking about climate chaos

Humans have never seen the likes of that.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 10:26 AM

53. Elucidate, my dear Watson. How come?

Taiga, muskeg and other soils in newly warmed, higher latitudes will take centuries to become arable, if ever.

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Response to raccoon (Reply #53)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:59 AM

55. Acidity, depth......etc.

The fact that much of the soils in the far north contain vast quantities of partially decayed plant matter, particularly evergreen needles, thus very high levels of acidity. Secondly, due to relatively recent glaciation events, many northern soils are very thin to extremely thin. And not just to subsoil....to bedrock. Yellowknife is a prime example. Of course we could expend vast amounts of CO2, to transport in lime, chem fert, formed topsoil and other missing materials, plus greatly increasing the natural CO2 release from all that partially decayed organic matter deposited over millennia...but what the hell...3,4 or 8 degrees of warming....who's counting?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:13 PM

13. RW idiot Ben Shapiro sez that if you're affected by rising sea levels, you simply sell your home

and relo.

Er, sell to who? Who is waiting in line to buy your now-permanently waterlogged property?

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Response to stopbush (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:50 AM

51. i saw that. and he's suppose to be the intellectual one. ugh

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

14. Oh, you mean like people in Guatemala whose crops have failed coming here?

Right, Mike, you pompous bag of shit?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:01 AM

16. That un-American pos should be locked up.To what's coming to the younger generation with the climate

Remember that pos will be in a grave when the climate change kicks in.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:19 AM

17. I am convinced that we will do the things necessary as the climate changes.

As the Earth becomes inhabitable - we will all move to our graves.

-Airplane

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:56 AM

18. I Hear Trump Is Building Trump Tower Siberia......nt

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:10 AM

19. Of course the "we" in "we move to different places" doesn't apply to people of color moving North

into the industrialized world. The administration's stated policy is that refugees should resettled close to the disaster zone they left.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:34 AM

20. while he and his buddies proceed to make it ever more difficult for people to move

this ain't the stone age anymore, it's a lot harder to follow those great herds across the plains when we can get busted for trespassing on BLM grazing land.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 03:33 AM

22. Waiting for Canada to start building their southern border wall.

3.....2.....1...........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 08:35 AM

44. Better build fast! This talk of people just moving to different places

suggests we may be planning to invade. Where else are we going?

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 03:53 PM

59. Wish we could zoom forward 100 years and take a peek.

Probably too scary to see. Our territorialism will kill millions and we're trudging backwards away from the solutions.

A while back, I saw a map of the current arable land on earth and it was both revealing and frightening. Many areas I would have guessed to be potential good farming zones have very poor soil, such as in much of Africa.

Loss of fresh water supply may actually be our final downfall, or at least the end of civilization as we know it.

The human species has yet to be told en masse that we need to slowly but drastically reduce populations in order to simply survive.

....

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 03:51 AM

23. Keep cages filled by Pompeo suggestion. It is one more reason migrants move north. . . . nt

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 04:48 AM

24. The rich usually can move

Everyone else (from people underwater on their homes and businesses on down to homeless people) find it very tough to move.

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Response to nitpicker (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:24 AM

27. Farmers

Have 4 feet of water in their fields. It will be late July before they go down. And Farmers do not want bailouts.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:16 AM

25. Like where? Mars, which is part of the moon? n/t

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:21 AM

26. Watched this

On the barriers in Britain this morning. If they go the whole coastline will vanish.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/09/climate-crisis-flooding-threat-may-force-uk-towns-to-be-abandoned

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:42 PM

37. Really not funny n/t

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:16 PM

40. Who said it was funny?

There is nothing funny about Global warming, it is real! And is taking place all over the world.

Even the outer parts of Miami are flooding. Whole areas will disappear. Not in my life time but that is not important.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #40)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 02:25 PM

41. I responded with snarky humor

about the whole Moon/Mars thing that DT said yesterday, asking if that is where we would go.
You posted a truly sad fact.
I was saying global warming is not funny.
I agree with you.

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #41)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 02:36 PM

42. OK!:)

Things been worse than snarky around here the last few days.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #42)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 08:56 AM

45. Living in a dictatorship on a burning planet can get to us

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #45)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 10:15 AM

52. I know

Am one of them. Thus not catching the sarcasm.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:50 AM

28. The Democrats need to blast this all over Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, and Nebraska.

Republican advice to farmers who've been flooded out: move.

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:55 AM

64. Yep...farmers can MOVE and no welfare checks too boot.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:11 AM

29. He should move to Russia. He would fit right in with Putin

He should move right now and leave our democracy (what little we have left) alone. Go to Russia where they like dicktaters. Take the wannabe dicktater with you.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:05 AM

30. Kick

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:14 AM

31. They ARE trying to move. Your boss is stopping them at the border

So no carbon cuts and no migration. What's left then, just fucking dying?

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:36 AM

47. +1

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:01 AM

32. I feel stupider for having read this bullshit quote

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:20 AM

34. Well, pompous Pompeo,

be sure and tell your BFF Donnie to move Merde-A-Lago further inland to keep it from becoming an underwater resort.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:56 AM

35. Great news, Mr. Pompeo

Doctor: "Great news, Mr. Pompeo! You have cancer!"
Pompeo: "That's not great news at all. Are you kidding? I could cease to exist."
Doctor: "But this opens you to the opportunity to get medical marijuana to ease your post-radiation nausea. You've been wanting to get high, so here's your chance. Just move to a state that has MMJ."
Pompeo: "Oh, OK."
Doctor: "One last thing, Mr. Pompeo."
Pompeo: "Yes."
Doctor: "Go fuck yourself."

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

36. I suggest Pompeo move straight to Hell.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:36 AM

48. Indeed

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:04 PM

39. For how sad and stupid his statement is it's fucking halarious that he says

"societies reorganize" as a solution for climate change while he works for an orange moron who is hellbent on building a wall in order to thwart such a thing. *sigh* well at least the idiots are at least acknowledging that climate change exists.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 04:10 PM

43. "Move to different places"? You mean like in mass migrations, social disruptions, global

chaos the likes of which the world has never seen before?

What an idiot. This is exactly one of the reasons why we DONT want climate change.

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Response to Kashkakat v.2.0 (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:38 AM

50. +1

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:24 AM

46. Anybody got any idea about anywhere Pompeo should go?

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #46)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:36 AM

49. Good question

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:11 PM

58. "Arctic sea lanes could become the 21st century Suez and Panama Canals."

And if you have your way those Arctic sea lanes will have the climate of the Suez and Panama Canals.

No thanks, idiot.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 09:04 PM

60. Move where?



No polar ice to lock up the water, the mid American sea returns.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:54 PM

61. That's what many are doing now

I thought that they were opposed to all this migration. There will be many many more arriving here because where they live has become unlivable ... climate refugees.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:42 AM

62. Yes, it's easy for the 95% of Americans who have their life savings tied up in their home/mortgage

to just sell their property to the eager queue of buyers looking to pick up what will become worthless land in essentially uninhabitable regions of the US.

That's a completely fair trade off for allowing oil companies to squeeze the last few drops of precious precious profit out of our planet.

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