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Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:10 PM

 

Russia Could Unleash Fake Videos During Election, Schiff Says

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Russian government is likely to try to influence the 2020 presidential election, not through the release of stolen emails and other documents but through faked videos, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said on Tuesday.

The United States has become adept at quickly identifying the perpetrators of so-called hacking and dumping operations that result in the release of potentially damaging material, increasing the risk for Moscow that Washington will respond, said Representative Adam B. Schiff, the California Democrat who leads the committee.

“The Russians may feel if they are too overt about it, the risk of blowback is simply too great,” Mr. Schiff said at the Council on Foreign Relations. “But there are other ways to have potentially even bigger impact than hacking and dumping.”

Mr. Schiff said he was particularly worried about the effect of falsified videos, known as deep fakes. Such videos could be easily introduced into social media, where they will spread rapidly.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-could-unleash-fake-videos-during-election-schiff-says/ar-AACoq0A



We must be able to counteract this to win in 2020!

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Vidal Jun 4 OP
SWBTATTReg Jun 4 #1
Vidal Jun 4 #3
dewsgirl Jun 4 #5
SWBTATTReg Jun 4 #6
Sapient Donkey Jun 4 #8
LiberalLovinLug Jun 4 #15
forgotmylogin Jun 5 #17
Blue_Tires Jun 4 #2
dewsgirl Jun 4 #4
Hoyt Jun 4 #7
0rganism Jun 4 #9
Auggie Jun 4 #10
dalton99a Jun 4 #11
Vidal Jun 4 #12
TomVilmer Jun 4 #13
Demon Dem Jun 4 #14
jpak Jun 4 #16

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:18 PM

1. Hopefully, most of these types of videos will be ID'ed quickly and easy to spot, after all, with...

all of the video footage today of all of our candidates, the chances of something damaging out there is next to zero. The fakes will be easy to spot and ID, since if a candidate is no way like what the doctored video seems to portray, then it has zero impact.

The only danger is riling up the rump supporters but that already been done with the piece of trash that rump is, in playing to this group of people.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:18 PM

3. Hope you are right

 

nt

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:20 PM

5. The thing is, some people are so gullible they will fall for anything.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:23 PM

6. Yes, that's what I meant by rump's people. They are so gullible already, they would eat a piece ...

of food even though there is clearly (in sight) a fishhook with a fishing line attached to it!

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:24 PM

8. And even presented with evidence that proves they were duped

often times they will refuse to acknowledge it for whatever reasons they have. This seems to a be a problem with people in general, but it seems particularly bad with Trump cultists.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:31 PM

15. Yes. The story changes to the 'fake news' media trying to falsely say it is a fake.

When they know, because Trump told them, that its real.


But the other side of the coin is just as frightening. That actual REAL videos, of Trump spewing some racist nonsense etc... will be proclaimed "deep state deep fakes". And they will get to eat their cake too. Because the message will be lapped up but they'll get away without paying for it.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:29 AM

17. Deep Fakes require a source video, so I believe they could be forensically detected.

Likely, though, not until after any damage has been done.

What worries me is this will allow people to retroactively have a Deep Fake of their own damaging video created as cover. If a celebrity has a sex tape, they can say "look there's a fake one so how do you know any of them are real?" Sort of how Trump salts the field by calling everything fake news.

We're basically going to get to the Orwellian point where having video of a crime is inadmissible; "Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears."

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:18 PM

2. Filed under: "Shit we already knew"

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:18 PM

4. I would bet on it, have you seen some of the crap they tried to pass off the last

time? In 4 years they will only have improved.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:23 PM

7. Well, we better be in a position to counter them immediately. Something we didn't do well in 2016.

Plus, even if the Ruskies don't do it, other countries, or more likely, white wingers for trump will.

This is not new, they swiftboated Kerry in 2004, and we failed to counter it effectively. Lied about Hillarycare in 1993, etc.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:30 PM

9. it's going to be necessary for our major candidates to maintain constant video logs

constant, timestamped video logs, for use in publicly refuting the bullshit and destroying credibility of media outlets who promote the fakes.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:43 PM

10. Could??? They WILL.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:59 PM

11. And Zuckerberg would be more than willing to help


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:09 PM

12. oh, oh you could be right

 

we really could be screwed unless something is done

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:23 PM

13. Our politicians warned us about what Russia would do...

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... to our two elections this month here in Denmark.
The military intelligence then said no signs of any collusion.

And yes, absolutely nothing happened here. Except our own politicians f*cking it all up.
The two and a half newly made radical right parties will eradicate themselves.
The old right wing party here (yes, we now have 13 official parties) loves Putin too much, and will lose half of their votes, it seems - voting is tomorrow.

Putin must have known, that we do not need him here.
We are very much able to spoil it all without help from others.

UPDATE. Denmark will change from a conservative/farmers government to a socialdemocratic. A few from a newly made radical right party will be in Parliament, but with no power. Doesn't help much, since also the Socialdemocrats will do bad things to foreigners...
https://www.thelocal.dk/20190605/live-denmark-awaits-results-of-general-election

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:17 PM

14. Mitch McConnell has already volunteered to help produce one

 

I think McConnell might be the only member of the League of Treasonous Bastards that I actually hate more than Orange Donnie himself.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:32 PM

16. They need to shut down Facebook and maybe Youtube during election years

Just sayin'

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