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Thu May 30, 2019, 07:59 PM

Trump Says U.S. Will Hit Mexico With Tariffs on All Goods

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON -- President Trump said Thursday he planned to impose a 5 percent tariff on all imported goods from Mexico beginning June 10, a tax that he said would "gradually increase" until Mexico stopped the flow of undocumented immigrants across the border.

The announcement, which Mr. Trump hinted at on Thursday morning and announced on his Twitter feed, said the tariffs would be in place "until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP."



In a presidential statement that followed Mr. Trump's tweet, he said that tariffs would be raised to 10 percent on July 1 "if the crisis persists," and then by another 5 percent each month for three months. "Tariffs will permanently remain at the 25 percent level unless and until Mexico substantially stops the illegal inflow of aliens coming through its territory," the statement said.

Mr. Trump's announcement came the same day his administration told Congress it planned to seek congressional approval of the new trade pact with Mexico and Canada, known as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement. The president has used the threat of tariffs to try to pressure foreign leaders into taking a wide array of actions, from renegotiating trade deals to limiting the amount of metal or cars they ship to the United States. In April, he threatened to place a 25 percent tariff on Mexican cars if the country wouldn't take action to stem the flow of migrants through the southern border, walking back a promise he had made in the revised North American trade agreement to exempt Mexico from such a measure.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/politics/trump-mexico-tariffs.html



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On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied,..
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WaPo article -

Trump says U.S. to impose 5 percent tariff on all Mexican imports beginning June 10 in dramatic escalation of border clash

By Nick Miroff, Josh Dawsey and Damian Paletta
May 30 at 7:52 PM

BREAKING: President Trump on Thursday said he would be imposing a 5 percent tariff on all Mexican goods imported to the United States beginning June 10 until undocumented migrants cease crossing the border, a dramatic escalation of his immigration fight that could have major consequences for the U.S. economy.

Trump, in a series of Twitter posts, said the tariffs would increase in size “until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP.”


This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-prepares-to-threaten-mexico-with-new-tariffs-in-attempt-to-force-migrant-crackdown/2019/05/30/0f05f01e-8314-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html

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Reply Trump Says U.S. Will Hit Mexico With Tariffs on All Goods (Original post)
BumRushDaShow May 30 OP
Eugene May 30 #1
LiberalArkie May 30 #8
no_hypocrisy May 30 #2
htuttle May 30 #3
left-of-center2012 May 30 #4
ArizonaLib May 30 #5
GulfCoast66 May 30 #18
ArizonaLib May 30 #23
TomCADem May 31 #24
dem in texas May 31 #29
scarytomcat May 31 #33
LiberalFighter May 30 #6
BigmanPigman May 30 #9
LiberalArkie May 30 #7
SunSeeker May 30 #10
EveHammond13 May 30 #11
NickB79 May 30 #22
iluvtennis May 30 #12
BumRushDaShow May 30 #13
iluvtennis May 30 #14
trev May 31 #26
LogicFirst May 30 #15
BumRushDaShow May 30 #16
bagimin May 30 #17
mobeau69 May 30 #19
CountAllVotes May 30 #20
nitpicker May 31 #30
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 30 #21
Recursion May 31 #25
smirkymonkey May 31 #28
sakabatou May 31 #27
Vinca May 31 #31
scarytomcat May 31 #32

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:01 PM

1. Will somebody please tell MF45 that he is screwing American consumers worse than Mexico?

Faced with the consequences of his idiocy, he doubles down.

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Response to Eugene (Reply #1)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:39 PM

8. I doubt that his 1% cares at all about the price increases.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:01 PM

2. Since Trump seems to like tariffs from ALL countries exporting to the U.S.,

can anyone tell me how these monies are being put out of his reach? He already plundered his campaign contributions and put those funds into his personal account. Why not tariffs as well?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:07 PM

3. So, we can expect to pay a lot more for produce, if we can get it

Between the floods in the farm belt and lack of migrant help, there isn't going to be a lot of food coming out of US farms this year.

A lot of produce in US stores comes from Mexico. (where do you think they get lettuce in February?)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:09 PM

4. Americans pay these tariffs

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:10 PM

5. I hope it leads to nullifying NAFTA and other trade agreements

Those agreements screw both workers and working class consumers. They reduce working conditions to the lowest denominator by moving jobs to countries with the worst working conditions. Tired of hearing the giant sucking sound that Ross Perot warned about.

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Response to ArizonaLib (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

18. Seems like you are a trump tariff fan.

By the time Perot ran the writing was on the wall. In a modern economy jobs go where they fit best. We could have been Germany and still be the producer of high tech industrial goods had republicans not killed unions and allowed Americans companies to shrink wages. It was not free trade that made GE stop making the best electric turbines in the world. Giving that market to Germany. But deregulation of Wall Street that made chasing profits quarter by quarter rather than long term investment the way CEOs are judged.

You can still buy a pair of American made Blue Jeans. They are really well made and last forever. And cost $120.00.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #18)

Thu May 30, 2019, 11:07 PM

23. Funny, seems like you have a few things crossed up

First, Germany has nothing to do with NAFTA - they do however assess and collect value added taxes (VAT) which are effectively tariffs. Reagan/Bush reduced and effectively ended tariffs in favor of a free trade agreement model, which attacks workers and environmental protections. Tariffs were throughout our nation's history great worker protection. Trump didn't invent Tariffs. The fact that he cannot do ANYTHING correctly leads me to believe that he is not even doing that properly.

Your giving Trump sole credit for using tariffs appears naive. You should not imply that - it makes you seem like a Trumper. If you are, bless your heart, and get ready for big time defeat.

In the '92 election, Perot participated during the entire election process, including several debates where the major issue was the already negotiated NAFTA, where Perot campaigned against it, vowing not to sign the agreement, and the other candidates campaigned on signing it. Your 'By the time Perot ran...' looks like it refers to the '96 election when he popped in and out of candidacy (he claimed he received violent threats at his daughter's wedding about continuing to run - to this day, many republicans claim Bush did not lose that election, but that Perot split the conservatives in the republican coalition).

In recent presidential election cycles, more has been made about free trade agreements, as each president has continued to create them. Free trade agreement popularity has waned, and on the liberal side of the media, it has been speculated that anyone running against free trade agreements could win a lot of votes from regions where manufacturing has been decimated by jobs being moved out of country. This is why Bernie Sanders added this to his campaign, and it is one of the reasons many felt if nominated, he could beat Trump on this during the general. The Clintons were historically opposite on this, and Hillary was forced, during the campaign to issue a statement saying she would not fully support the newly negotiated trans pacific agreement.

Levi Strauss, the American standard and originator in denim jean pants moved its last remaining production facilities overseas several years ago.

I still stand by my original message.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #18)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:12 AM

24. No. Trump Is Bernie-Lite On Trade. Bernie Slammed Trump...

...for not being tough enough on Mexico. Five percent tariffs? Pfft. Bernie would hit Mexico much harder:

https://www.agweb.com/article/one-more-hurdle-for-usmca-sanders-urges-trump-to-rework-agreement/

One More Hurdle for USMCA: Sanders Urges Trump to Rework Agreement

A new hurdle has surfaced in getting the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) approved as Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders asked President Donald Trump to abandon his push for the USMCA/NAFTA 2.0, reports Pro Farmer’s Jim Wiesemeyer.

“The NAFTA treaty that Trump renegotiated with Mexico will still allow companies like General Motors to send our jobs to Mexico,” Sanders (I-Vt.) said during a rally at Macomb Community College in Warren, Mich. “So today, I challenge Donald Trump: For once in your life, keep your campaign promises.”

The Vermont senator urged Trump to go back to the drawing board and rework USMCA.

“Do not send this treaty to Congress unless it includes strong and swift enforcement mechanisms to raise the wages of workers and to prevent corporations from outsourcing American jobs to Mexico,” Sanders said.

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Response to ArizonaLib (Reply #5)

Fri May 31, 2019, 02:59 AM

29. NAFTA has been good for Texas

The economy in Texas is booming. Texas is the top exporting state and much of the exports go to Mexico. At the same time, Texas imports from Mexico. The import/export between Texas and Mexico is pretty much a wash. But both benefit because the exports create jobs in both places and the imports bring in good to drive up consumer sales. NAFTA has a lot to do with it.

My understanding of the new trade agreement is that it will be very much like NAFTA. This is being followed closely in Texas and reported in the papers and on TV. If Trump's crazy immigrant tariff scheme goes through it will really make a mess of the Texas/Mexico trade relationship.

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Response to dem in texas (Reply #29)

Fri May 31, 2019, 08:50 AM

33. it is all the other things in the agreement that makes these trade deals bad

control of arbitration, lack of worker rights and so one
tariffs are meant to protect american jobs not punishment because of your skin color

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:23 PM

6. Looking forward to it happening.

I'm surprise it is only 5%.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #6)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:52 PM

9. So am I since I heard it will be higher.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:38 PM

7. I need to really stock up on my Mexican Coca-Cola

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:54 PM

10. Trump really is a one-trick pony: tariffs as a cure for everything.

Too bad it cures nothing.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:59 PM

11. Have fun with that, Texas.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Reply #11)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

22. Might turn Texas blue, finally

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

12. I'm a Californiana and we get lots of fruits and vegetables from Mexico - now I gotta pay more. GAH.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #12)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:07 PM

13. Not just there

Probably most of the "off-season" fruits and veggies that are available in the colder parts of the U.S. during winter are coming from there - e.g., tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc.

Here on the east coast, Florida can have some ready during the spring, but Mexico has it all set up.

I suppose we may end up going back to the way it was during my parents generation and before - buying produce "in season" as it was rarely if ever available during the winter.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #13)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:09 PM

14. Yep, agree this has implications across the nation. And I appreciate the off season

produce from Mexico - I couldn't survive without having avocadoes and tomatoes year round....but as you say, we will be going back to time of eating seasonal produce.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #13)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:53 AM

26. Well, of course.

The Republicans are nothing if not backwards.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

15. Blueberries

Quite frankly, I don't like the blueberries from Mexico, as those from Chile and Peru are far superior. Let Trump highly tariff the blueberries.

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Response to LogicFirst (Reply #15)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

16. I grow my own blueberries

and luckily live across the river from Jersey and all their blueberry farms (we have a bunch of pick-your-own places with blueberries near me too here in SE PA). I'll get as many as I can and then freeze them.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:22 PM

17. Ram,Tacoma,Silverado,Jetta

Tiguan.....ho
hum.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:28 PM

19. Dow set to drop more than 150 points after Trump announces tariffs on Mexican imports

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #19)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:56 PM

20. Hey thanks for the link





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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #19)

Fri May 31, 2019, 05:15 AM

30. Now -247 ((back below 25000))

https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/

U.S. Stock Futures


S&P -29.25 / -1.05%
Level 2,761.25
Fair Value 2,789.45
Difference -28.20

Data as of 4:59am ET

Nasdaq -95.25 / -1.31%
Level 7,160.00
Fair Value 7,251.07
Difference -91.07

Data as of 4:59am ET

Dow -247.00 / -0.98%
Level 24,943.00

Data as of 4:59am ET

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

21. So much for getting his new trade agreement passed

Fucking dumbass.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:49 AM

25. Can somebody please explain to this jackass how tariffs work?

"Do as I say, or I'll make things more expensive for my own citizens!"

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Response to Recursion (Reply #25)

Fri May 31, 2019, 02:15 AM

28. +1000

It's pointless. He thinks he knows everything there is to know about the economy and international trade. There is no convincing him. He's such a fucking moron.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:58 AM

27. Ugh...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 06:55 AM

31. It's a shame this numbskull won't believe we pay for the tariffs. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 08:44 AM

32. punishment is his only bargaining move

he can't (and all rethugs) take responsibility for what we do
stop letting the employers hire them it is simple

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