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Wed May 22, 2019, 07:25 AM

Nevada Senate passes bill that would give Electoral College votes to winner of national popular vote

Source: The Hill

The Nevada Senate passed a bill that would give the stateís Electoral College votes to the winner of the popular vote, sending the legislation to the desk of Gov. Steve Sisolak (D).

The state Senate passed the measure on a 12-8 vote on Tuesday, CNN reported.

If Sisolak signs the measure into law, Nevada would become the latest state to join the National Popular Vote interstate compact, an agreement among a number of states to give their Electoral College votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote.

Currently, 14 states and the District of Columbia have passed legislation to join the pact, which will only take effect if a number of states holding the majority of the Electoral Collegeís 538 electoral votes join the agreement.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/444943-nevada-senate-passes-bill-that-would-give-electoral-college-votes-to



This'll never pass nationally; the battleground States you need for 270 will be a lot harder.

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Reply Nevada Senate passes bill that would give Electoral College votes to winner of national popular vote (Original post)
brooklynite May 22 OP
hlthe2b May 22 #1
brooklynite May 22 #7
hlthe2b May 22 #9
BootinUp May 22 #2
Turin_C3PO May 22 #3
hlthe2b May 22 #4
Turin_C3PO May 22 #5
Voltaire2 May 22 #6
hlthe2b May 22 #8
DrToast May 22 #10
world wide wally May 22 #11
hlthe2b May 22 #12
world wide wally May 22 #13
hlthe2b May 22 #14
madville May 22 #16
hlthe2b May 22 #17
madville May 22 #18
JGug1 May 22 #15
madville May 22 #19

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 07:37 AM

1. I disagree that they won't get to 270... Not likely before 2020, but they are getting close

Note it is at least being discussed in any number of "battleground" states.



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The National Popular Vote interstate compact would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The bill ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter in every presidential election. The bill is a constitutionally conservative, state-based approach that preserves the Electoral College, state control of elections, and the power of the states to control how the President is elected.

The National Popular Vote bill will take effect when enacted into law by states possessing 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 electoral votes). It has been enacted into law in 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (DC, DE, HI, RI, VT), 6 medium-sized states (CO, CT, MD, MA, NM, WA), and 4 big states (CA, IL, NJ, NY).

The bill will take effect when enacted by states possessing an additional 81 electoral votes.


The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA). The bill will take effect when enacted by states with 81 more electoral votes. The bill has passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 82 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, OR). A total of 3,357 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it.


https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status There have been a few changes since this was updated, but it is nearly accurate to the moment.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed May 22, 2019, 09:12 AM

7. PA, MI, OH, WI, NC, FL...

...all with Republican-controlled State Legislatures are critical to reach 270 and won't pass it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Wed May 22, 2019, 09:55 AM

9. Not at all. See my response to you in post # 8 (with documentation provided in post #1)

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 07:49 AM

2. Nothing stays static forever. Nt

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 08:04 AM

3. Hopefully

my state, New Mexico, will pass such a bill. We have a Democratic governor and legislature so it is possible.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 08:07 AM

4. New Mexico has already passed it into law. See my post upthread.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #4)

Wed May 22, 2019, 08:09 AM

5. Doh!

Lol thatíll teach me to actually fully read a thread before commenting.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 08:41 AM

6. It doesn't have to "pass nationally".

But yes, getting to the 270 threshold is difficult. Not nearly as difficult as a constitutional amendment, but difficult.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 09:52 AM

8. There are more than enough EVs in those states that have passed it through ONE chamber already

And actually at least one of those (NV) has actually NOW passed it through both chambers. This is ignoring the battleground states. If their residents pressure their state legislators, this could pass just on those alone.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 10:10 AM

10. lol. Every time another state passes this someone says "It'll never work"

And yet the count keeps growing.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 10:11 AM

11. I can see it passing in Min., Mi, Va, Me, and Or.

Just like national elections, we need Fl or Tx.
Could be a heavy lift these days

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #11)

Wed May 22, 2019, 10:31 AM

12. Not at all. It is laid out clearly in the documentation and the map in my post #1 and #8

Seems many posters just want to repeat "dogma" without reading the thread or "digesting" the latest information on the effort... I don't get it.

Here is the link to the tracking organization, but it is now updated with NV passing through both houses.
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Wed May 22, 2019, 10:43 AM

13. I missed Pa.

I hope you are right in your optimism, but there is the possibility.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #13)

Wed May 22, 2019, 10:50 AM

14. If the states that have ALREADY passed through one chamber do so through both

and governor signs, there are more than enough EV to enact the compact. They wouldn't need FL, TX or PA.

They have 189/270 needed. With NV, they will have 195. Count the votes from states in orange on the map I linked above.

Neither this nor any other important effort will succeed if we do not inform ourselves. That isn't OPTIMISM, that is the truth. Do I think this will have a likely possibility of occurring before 2020 election? NO. Do I think it has a strong chance of happening thereafter? YES. Of course not if we give up.

DUers, please read up on the issue before posting more 'this can never happen' crap. Please.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Wed May 22, 2019, 04:39 PM

16. When did those states pass it though in that one body?

That would be my question, and what party controlled it when it passed? I would think that it would have to be passed again by the current legislative body in a new session to be valid in most of those states. If one part of the legislature passed it in 2005, I would think they would have to pass it again in the current session and party control may have flipped since then.

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Response to madville (Reply #16)

Wed May 22, 2019, 04:53 PM

17. The link I provided you has searchable data for full status and summary action for each state

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #17)

Wed May 22, 2019, 05:11 PM

18. Ok, this makes more sense now

Most of the current red states that previously passed it in one legislative body but it was never enacted were under Democratic control at the time years ago. So for it to get enacted in those states anytime soon it would have to get passed again through their current Republican legislature.

I was wondering how it got passed through a state legislature like say Arkansas and now I see that was in 2007 and 2009 when Democrats controlled it.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:37 PM

15. It Will Never Pass?

What is happening regarding Medicaid, stonewalled by Republican legislatures and governors, is that when Dems get into power, the people get Medicaid. That is what will happen with this. Given the disdain that so many felt for Trump, the House flipped in 2016 and so did a lot of state government offices. We could see the same thing in 2020 and we just might get this change. What an odious and STUPID comment in the article where it says "only" 5 times. Once is too often.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 05:20 PM

19. It could backfire also

Imagine a scenario where a third party candidate gets about 5-10% nationally at the Democratic candidates expense, like a far-left candidate or moderate, take your pick.

Theoretically a Republican could be awarded all those blue states' electoral votes with just around 45% of the popular vote if the Democratic got 43% and a left-leaning third party received say 10% and everyone else collected 2%.

It's interesting but could go sideways for us mathematically in the wrong scenario.



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