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Sun May 12, 2019, 09:50 PM

States fight Trump rollback of Obama lightbulb rules

Source: The Hill

States are preparing to fight back as the Trump administration moves to erase Obama-era standards for lightbulbs. The Department of Energy (DOE) has proposed new regulations for lightbulbs that would eliminate efficiency standards for half the bulbs on the market.

State leaders say they are fighting what they see as an alarming trend under the Trump administration where agencies with an environmental purview are instead rolling back green regulations.

“It’s unfortunate if the Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t actually want to protect the environment or that the Department of Energy is not interested in energy efficiency,” said Colorado state Rep. Meg Froelich (D), who sponsored the legislation to commit the state to the Obama-era standards for lightbulbs and other devices. “We don’t want to become a dumping ground for energy inefficient appliances.”

The administration proposal is supported by lightbulb manufacturers, but consumer groups estimate continuing to use less efficient bulbs will cost the average household more than $100 a year and create more pollution as utilities produce energy that otherwise would not be needed.

BY REBECCA BEITSCH - 05/12/19 09:42 PM EDT

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/443221-states-fight-trump-rollback-of-obama-lightbulb-rules

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Reply States fight Trump rollback of Obama lightbulb rules (Original post)
left-of-center2012 May 12 OP
spartan61 May 12 #1
groundloop May 12 #2
MattInMN May 12 #3
GemDigger May 12 #5
gay texan May 13 #14
rusty quoin May 12 #4
Judi Lynn May 13 #8
not fooled May 12 #6
TheBlackAdder May 13 #7
pwb May 13 #9
bigworld May 13 #10
mahatmakanejeeves May 13 #11
jmowreader May 13 #12
Totally Tunsie May 13 #13
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 13 #15

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:05 PM

1. Of course lightbulb manufacturers

support this bill. They want to sell more lightbulbs. But why the hell is the orange one's administration proposing such a stupid bill? Oh wait, I know. Could it be because it was an Obama era bill? Anything that reeks of Obama, trump wants to eliminate. trump is so jealous of President Obama because he knows he can never reach Obama's standard of leadership. Give it up, trumpy. Take your hairpiece and go home to your golden palace. You suck as president.


(I know proper nouns should be capitalized, but he doesn't deserve a capital t.)

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Response to spartan61 (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:32 PM

2. Thank You for not using the word 'President' in the same sentence as 'tRump'

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Response to spartan61 (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

3. Correction.

Take your hairpiece and go home to your [s]golden[/s] gold-plated palace

Fixed it for you. He ain't that rich.

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Response to MattInMN (Reply #3)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:39 PM

5. Not gold plated. Rustoleum has a gold paint that is really good. The

"poor" bastard could only afford spray paint.

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Response to GemDigger (Reply #5)

Mon May 13, 2019, 02:51 PM

14. He probably "huffs" it..... n/t

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Response to spartan61 (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:04 PM

4. Retribution is trump's middle name. Obama made fun of him at a correspondents' dinner.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #4)

Mon May 13, 2019, 04:04 AM

8. It was wonderful seeing Trump sitting like a blob in the audience, being forced to eat it. n/t

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:52 PM

6. Back to the Dark Ages!

Science, innovation, and progress--all dirty words to red don and his backers, unless the technology puts money in their hands only.





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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 02:37 AM

7. At this point, let it fleece more money from stupid rubes. Now some have sensitivities to CFL & LEDs

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For the small segment of folks who experience physical issues with CFLs and LEDs, that's one thing.

For the rubes who want to stick it to the libs, I say, go ahead and fuck yourselves. I saved $25/month moving to CFLs and I am slowly migrating to LEDs as they go out. And why use CFLs in a basement or garage? Because it's cheaper than incandescent bulbs and gives well-distributed light. If incandescents were better than CFLs, office buildings would still be using them.

In the example below, if the guy from Project Farm used the same amount of LED bulb lighting as his CFLs, he would have 1/4th the energy consumption. As it stands, he doubled up on the bulbs and now has twice the light at half the cost of the older CFLs.




Here's Jay Leno's Garage:



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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #7)

Mon May 13, 2019, 08:36 AM

9. Thanks.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 08:42 AM

10. This was actually begun under the Bush administration

From wikipedia:

In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA), which set maximum power consumption requirements for all general-service light bulbs producing 310–2600 lumens of light. Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, plant lights, candelabra lights under 60 watts, outdoor post lights less than 100 watts, nightlights and shatter resistant bulbs. The law was to effectively ban most incandescent light bulbs, starting in January 2012.[91][92] By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, requiring all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt, similar to a CFL.[93]

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

11. It's more complex than that. From the CATO Institute:

You'll get over it.

MARCH 7, 2019 3:20PM
Lightbulb Efficiency Standards
....

Lightbulb efficiency standards were included in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA), which established efficiency standards for “general service lamps.” These standards applied to various technologies, including traditional incandescent bulbs, CFLs, and LEDs, but excluded many types of specialty bulbs, such as decorative candelabra bulbs. The act also required the Department of Energy (DOE) to initiate procedures to determine whether the lightbulb standards should be increased and required a final rule to be published before 2017. If the DOE was unable to fulfill this requirement, the act created a backstop that would impose a 45 lumen (a measure of light intensity) per watt (lm/W) minimum on lightbulbs starting January 1, 2020. A traditional 100 watt incandescent bulb emits 1600 lumens of light, only 16 lumens per watt, and thus would be banned.
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The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA). It was a law. It passed both houses of Congress and was signed by the president. Wanna remind me who was president then?

Here's the rule:

Energy Conservation Program: Energy Conservation Standards for General Service Lamps

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 12:31 PM

12. Dear president Trump

The Obama Administration, as one of its first acts, passed a law forbidding any American from using arsenic as a dessert topping. Certainly every American should have the freedom to decide what to sprinkle on his ice cream!

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #12)

Mon May 13, 2019, 01:34 PM

13. ...especially Donnie Two-Scoops!

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