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Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:16 AM

House committee sends new letter to IRS demanding Trump's tax returns

Source: CNN

(CNN)House Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal is not backing down on his request for six years of the President Donald Trump's personal and business tax returns, he writes In a new letter sent Saturday to IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig.

In a two-page letter, Neal writes that he believes his committee is well within its rights to see the President's tax returns and that he expects a decision from the IRS within the next 10 days.

"I expect a reply from the IRS by 5:00 p.m. on April 23, 2019. Please know that if you fail to comply, your failure will be interpreted as a denial of my request," Neal writes.

The letter leans heavily into the committee's legal rational for the returns and Neal writes that, "I am aware that concerns have been raised regarding my request, and the authority of the committee. Those concerns lack merit. Moreover, judicial precedent commands that none of the concerns raised can legitimately be used to deny the committee's request."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/politics/trump-tax-returns-house-letter-irs/index.html



Neal's letter: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/politics/house-cmte-letter-to-irs/index.html

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Reply House committee sends new letter to IRS demanding Trump's tax returns (Original post)
mobeau69 Apr 13 OP
riversedge Apr 13 #1
Shrike47 Apr 13 #2
MurrayDelph Apr 13 #15
pangaia Apr 13 #17
JudyM Apr 13 #25
Aristus Apr 13 #32
MurrayDelph Apr 13 #33
Fred Sandman Apr 13 #34
modrepub Apr 14 #36
dangermouse2017 Apr 13 #3
Little Star Apr 13 #18
ebbie15644 Apr 13 #4
Cartaphelius Apr 13 #5
mr_lebowski Apr 13 #6
ROB-ROX Apr 13 #7
PSPS Apr 13 #8
Thunderbeast Apr 13 #9
KPN Apr 13 #10
Delmette2.0 Apr 13 #19
dangermouse2017 Apr 13 #22
sarcasmo Apr 13 #11
Kablooie Apr 13 #28
WhoWoodaKnew Apr 13 #12
Kablooie Apr 13 #29
Fiendish Thingy Apr 13 #13
BarbD Apr 13 #14
pangaia Apr 13 #16
vishnura Apr 13 #20
louis-t Apr 13 #21
ancianita Apr 13 #23
lark Apr 13 #24
vlyons Apr 13 #26
Kablooie Apr 13 #27
OnDoutside Apr 13 #30
bluestarone Apr 13 #31
James48 Apr 14 #35

Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:23 AM

1. k and R

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:23 AM

2. Oooh, a sternly worded letter. That'll work.

I know they need to proceed in an orderly, logical manner. It just annoys me. I want a lightning-fast raid and incarceration of the Trumpistas.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:03 PM

15. There was a line back when I was in college

(possibly from Monty Python)

Halt, or I shall be forced to shout "Halt!" again!

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Response to MurrayDelph (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:07 PM

17. Tell me about it !!!




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Response to MurrayDelph (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:35 PM

25. This captures the issue perfectly.

They’ve got the gloves off and they’re up to their elbows in corruption and we don’t want to get our fingernails dirty. There’s a time to parry with civility but that time has passed. Hoping against hope that our Constitution is up to the fight.

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Response to MurrayDelph (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 04:02 PM

32. I think it was Robin Williams in his stand-up act, pointing out the difference between American cops

and British cops.

American cops: Blam-blam-blam-blam-blam-blam!!! "Stop or I'll shoot!"

British cops: 'Stop! Or I shall say 'stop' again!"

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Response to Aristus (Reply #32)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 04:54 PM

33. I believe you are correct.

Thanks.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:32 PM

34. One makes the formal demand to set the grounds for legal action or congressional mandate.

 

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 08:12 AM

36. Reminds Me of SpongeBob Episode: Squidville

Policeman: Hold it right there, Mr. Tentacles!
Squidward: Stand back! I've got gardening tools! [the policeman hands him an envelope]
Policeman: Here! Just read this! [Squidward looks at it]
Squidward: What is it?
Policeman: A well thought out and organized list of complaints!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:24 AM

3. Does the "denial" part

 

Make the other IRS law that David K Johnston mentioned?

The 1 about IRS official denies a lawful request means 5 years in federal prison?

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Response to dangermouse2017 (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:52 PM

18. +1

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:44 AM

4. F*** the letter

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:47 AM

5. Why not have the Sergeant of Arms in the House


and capitol police arrest the IRS official that has made the decision to violate the law?

Then ask him under oath, what led him openly and willingly to violate the law that is direct
violation of his oath of office as well the law?

Provide him a Public Defender for 10 minutes with legal council prior to walking in the Committee to answer the charges against him.Heaven forbid they are held accountable for their crimes against HUMANITY.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:01 PM

6. In the GOP's world, this IS backing down. Neal already gave them a deadline.

Now, it's 10 more days, and all he's asking for is a DECISION ...

This is mealy-mouthed bullshit if you ask me. THERE AIN'T NO F***ING DECISION TO BE MADE ON THEIR END.

This letter should've been a threat of impeachment (or at minimum the referral of criminal charges to DoJ) of Rettig if the documents that he is REQUIRED BY LAW to furnish are not handed over by, say, this Friday.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:02 PM

7. what about a THIRD PAGE

The third page should have listed the laws which would be broken if he did not comply. I think the corrupt criminals will just try to beat the clock and STALL for time. We do not know if this criminal is sent to jail will another CLOWN take his place? I understand these papers are not hard to find and deliver, but the clowns will pretend they have to "find" the papers and "print" the papers. The clowns have to be told they will be subject to a penalty if they do NOT do their job............

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:10 PM

8. LOL. "not backing down?" Back to the same old crap, moving the goalpost (deadline) again and again

Sorry, but accommodating lawlessness can't be described as "not backing down."

Our democratic house is just chock full of milquetoast, isn't it? Not to worry. On the 23rd, another "strongly-worded" letter will provide yet another deadline, probably with "and this time, i really mean it!!111!!"

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:14 PM

9. File the damn lawsuit now!

Time to play hardball with these criminals.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:16 PM

10. Another letter, another new deadline. Giving them 10 f***ing days?

The tRumpistas are laughing. Why not 72 hours!? End of the day Monday? Geezus!

"The letter leans heavily into the committee's rationale"? Like the tRumpistas don't know the law? How the hell do they think tRump has been able to get away with his con the past 50 years? Lawyers that know the law!

So here's what we'll see next:

On April 22 the IRS will respond requesting another 14 days because they need to, oh I don't know, finish their detailed review of the massively long tax return to redact any information regarding 2nd and 3rd parties that falls under the strict privacy requirements of the Privacy Act (this takes weeks but we're trying to speed that and complete it within two weeks -- we'll let you know if we need more time in about 12 days or so) or some other bullshit. That the Dems will then say: "Okay, that's it! But after that we mean business!"

I was a bureaucrat. I understand process. But I'm beginning to get really pissed.

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Response to KPN (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:55 PM

19. I like that!

With all the high speed copiers available that should not be a problem.

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Response to KPN (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:11 PM

22. To quote the great George Carlin

 

It's a big ole club for the real owners of America
And you ain't in it,
You and I are not part of of the club,

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:17 PM

11. The GOP only understands subpoena.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:06 PM

28. They don't understand subpoenas either.

If a subpoena is issued they can ignore it too.
It's only law, something they know they don't have to comply with because they are team Trump.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:26 PM

12. Chill, the Dems are just doing this by the book. Very smart

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Response to WhoWoodaKnew (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:08 PM

29. Problem is that Trump tears up the book.

And the Attorney General will burn the pages if Trump wants him to.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:39 PM

13. Maybe if they used all caps they'd get better results?

Impeach Mnuchin now, make a criminal referral NOW.

FUCK "the math"

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:46 PM

14. This is like ordering my daughter to clean up her room or else.

And the "or else" has to have some enforceable teeth in it.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:06 PM

16. "I expect a reply from the IRS by 5:00 p.m. on April 23, 2019

April 23 ??? Was dat about???

Shit, why not April 15??

That's Monday.


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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:58 PM

20. More bullshit form the spineless.....

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:03 PM

21. "If you fail to comply, your failure will be

interpreted as a failure to comply."

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:15 PM

23. Yeah, it makes the committee look like a paper tiger, along with all the other committees and DNC.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:31 PM

24. Stop already with the letters, GOP doesn't respect the law and now it needs to be applied to them.

Issue fucking subpoenas to Mnuchin and everyone else in line with the IRS nd put his ass in jail if needed. He is breaking the law and needs to be held accountable. Damn, I am so sick of Dems being sineliness. especially when they are 100% in the right legally and morally and ethically. ACT!!!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:43 PM

26. Can Pelosi send US marshalls to the IRS

to arrest Charles Rettig for failure to follow the law? I doubt Bad Boy Barr would issue an arrest warrant. Why is he extending the grace period to April 23? Gosh, why can't Dems get tough with Trump's criminal enablers? I'm sick of the MF and his neo-Fascist enablers.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:04 PM

27. And when they refuse again?

I don't think they have guts to arrest anyone. It would be too disruptive and create a war.

Either they have to gear up for a massive battle or concede that Trump is above the law.

I expect we will see sternly phrased requests continuing until the 2020 election.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #27)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:13 PM

30. Then Rettig is breaking the law.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:16 PM

31. The BIGGEST thing here is

The House better have TEETH sharpened and READY on the 23'd! SOMETHING has got to happen in my eyes!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 01:29 AM

35. Make a citizens arrest.

In my state, any citizen can make a citizens arrest of someone who has committed a felony.

If I see the IRS Commissioner, I’d walk up and place him under arrest.

Hey, why hasn’t anyone called the FBI on the IRS Commissioner already? And asked whom he has spoken with ( conspiracy to commit a felony) at the White House?

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