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Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:57 PM

Trump issues first veto in targeting congressional rejection of his emergency declaration

Source: Washington Post



President Trump issued the first veto of his presidency Friday to secure federal money for a border wall he promised as a candidate and considers a crucial priority for reelection, capping a week of confrontation with both political parties.

“Today I am vetoing this resolution. Congress has the freedom to pass this resolution and I have the duty to veto it,” Trump said in the Oval Office.

Twelve Republicans had joined Democrats to challenge Trump over his declaration of a national emergency at the U.S.-Mexico border, which would allow the president to circumvent Congress and spend billions on wall construction. The rare rebuke from members of his own party was symbolically important, but Congress does not have the votes to overturn Trump’s veto.

“I’d like to thank all of the Great Republican Senators who bravely voted for Strong Border Security and the WALL,” Trump tweeted ahead of his veto action. “This will help stop Crime, Human Trafficking, and Drugs entering our Country. Watch, when you get back to your State, they will LOVE you more than ever before!”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-poised-to-issue-first-veto-of-his-presidency-over-emergency-declaration/2019/03/15/a8fe3a86-474c-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html

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Reply Trump issues first veto in targeting congressional rejection of his emergency declaration (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Friday OP
The Genealogist Friday #1
jmowreader Friday #2
The Genealogist Friday #5
RKP5637 Friday #6
BumRushDaShow Friday #9
jmowreader Friday #12
RKP5637 Friday #15
The Genealogist Friday #32
0rganism Friday #22
littlemissmartypants Friday #33
Still In Wisconsin Friday #28
ZZenith Friday #3
SunSeeker Friday #8
lefty2000 Friday #21
ZZenith Friday #23
TwilightZone Friday #24
ZZenith Friday #25
mr_lebowski Friday #27
ZZenith Friday #29
mr_lebowski Friday #31
NRaleighLiberal Friday #4
RKP5637 Friday #7
littlemissmartypants Friday #34
William Seger Friday #11
iluvtennis Friday #10
cstanleytech Friday #13
iluvtennis Friday #14
jmowreader Friday #19
cstanleytech Friday #20
billh58 Friday #16
iluvtennis Friday #17
world wide wally Friday #18
keithbvadu2 Friday #26
area51 Friday #30
littlemissmartypants Friday #35

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:04 PM

1. Why does have broccoli in his pocket? Or is that parsley?

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:05 PM

2. I think they're shamrocks

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:07 PM

5. Thanks

If he was carrying broccoli around, I'd know hed finally and totally flipped his lid. Hed never eat that.

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:10 PM

6. Pot???

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:22 PM

9. Damn

Was gonna say the same thing but then had to go do something and came back to the 'puter and saw your post!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:29 PM

12. I doubt it

If he was high he'd be more coherent.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:46 PM

15. Yeah, he would, wouldn't he. n/t

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:22 PM

32. Or maybe it would calm his ass down a little

He could use some calming. Bigly!

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:07 PM

22. is he wearing it like this?



it might be fashionable on his home planet...

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:17 PM

33. Broccoli Brothers Circus

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:05 PM

28. It's boogers. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:06 PM

3. "He promised as candidate" that Mexico was going to pay for it.

Why the f is the Washington Post trying to make his demand sound noble?

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:17 PM

8. Exactly. So fucking frustrating.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:07 PM

21. Where Is The Slant?

I read the online version of the report in the Wash. Post and I didn't pick up on the effort to make Trump's action seem noble. What do you base that on?

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Response to lefty2000 (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:20 PM

23. Seriously?

It’s right there in the first sentence:

President Trump issued the first veto of his presidency Friday to secure federal money for a border wall he promised as a candidate and considers a crucial priority for reelection, capping a week of confrontation with both political parties.”

Leaving out the part about how he promised that some other country would pay for his stupid promise is a rather glaring omission, donchaknow? To suggest that he’s doing it to make good on a promise he made to the American people is mendacious and leaves out some critical detail, donchathink?

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:29 PM

24. By now, I think it's assumed pretty much everyone knows he said Mexico would pay for it.

The rest of it is factually correct and I don't see it as editorializing. Your mileage may vary.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:41 PM

25. I am getting very poor mileage out of every single major media outlet in this country

who have done everything in their powers to normalize this monster. The urine that has been trickling down on our heads is not rainwater, and they have been SO reluctant to inform us that it is, indeed, urine. Asparagus style urine, even.

Words mean things - they are the oxygen of the body politic and just so long as they continue to frame events in the language of normalcy we shall remain sopping wet.

Let any moderately literate adult with their finger on the pulse of events in this country -anyone who isn’t concerned with their next quarterly earnings report - rewrite this article and a different picture will emerge of exactly what this cornered rat is attempting to accomplish. You do realize he just threatened to use our military and police against his political opponents, don’t you?

I am out of patience with these media outlets who STILL, after all that’s transpired in the last several decades, try to soft pedal the situation in which we find ourselves.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:05 PM

27. HEAR F***ING HEAR MY FRIEND ZZ!

Agree, 1000%.

Media is a friggin' joke, even the WaPo and NYT are half-way down the toilet at best.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:28 PM

29. From now on they need to lead every sentence concerning Trump with:

“After threatening his political opponents with the use of the U.S. military and local police forces, President Trump today blah, blah, blah...”

I saw no mention of it in the last few issues of The Washington Post. How is this not huge fucking news?!!

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:12 PM

31. It really is UNbelievable ... media is failing hard on this one ...

I would hope at least the late-night people picked up on it but I didn't watch anything last night.

Freaking depressing.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:07 PM

4. Now what? Fight it out in the courts?

The man is an insane monster.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:12 PM

7. And the more insane he gets the more his damn cult tries to normalize it. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:18 PM

34. +1000 nt

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:27 PM

11. Yes, declaring the emergency is one thing

... getting his tiny hands on the money to pay for his Magic Wall is another. The National Emergencies Act doesn't enable him to misappropriate money budgeted for other purposes.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:24 PM

10. What are the next steps? Does this go to court and be held up while in litigation or does it mean

that the $8 Billion he wants for the wall goes into affect immediately.

Thanks for clarifying.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:38 PM

13. Depends. A Court can of course put a hold on it but ultimately it will be up to SCOTUS

which is currently packed with Trump leaning supporters though that might not long after the next Democratic president with a Democratic Senate majority declares a National Supreme Court Emergency and increases the number of SCOTUS from 9 to 15.
Followed of course by the Senate ramming through 6 liberal justices with a majority vote of 51 thanks to the Repugnants giving there consent to do that.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:45 PM

14. Thanks for the reply back. And love your idea of the Nat'l Emergency for the upcoming Dem POTUS

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:04 PM

19. Only six?

Young person, you are not thinking clearly enough. The next Democratic president needs to expand the Supreme Court to 19 seats. This will enable us to seat two panels - one in DC where it's always been, the other in San Francisco. The Chief Justice and his or her staff will supervise the certiorari board.

By expanding the Court so much, we can place two of the five current conservative justices on the Western Division court, and backfill both benches with good solid legal thinkers...who make Stephen Reinhardt look like Antonin Scalia.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:05 PM

20. I certainly would not object to that either.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:57 PM

16. Tracking the legal challenges to Trump's emergency declaration

(CNN)As President Donald Trump moves forward with plans to build additional physical barriers along the southern border, his administration will have to contend with a slew of lawsuits challenging the national emergency declaration allowing him, in part, to do so.

So far, at least seven lawsuits have been filed challenging the declaration. The argument at the core of each lawsuit is similar: Trump exceeded his authority and circumvented Congress in an attempt to achieve his signature campaign promise for an emergency that, plaintiffs argue, doesn't exist.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/national-emergency-declaration-lawsuit-tracker/index.html


Hopefully, one or more of the lawsuits will gain traction.

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Response to billh58 (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:03 PM

17. Fingers crossed one of the lawsuits put a hold on him using any funds over what congress approved.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:04 PM

18. He just vetoed the Constitution.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:55 PM

26. Overriding the veto is completely up to the republicans. They have the power.

Overriding the veto is completely up to the republicans.

They have the power here.

A few republicans can look tough on the first vote but the override vote will tell.

They want their cake and eat it too.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:39 PM

30. Trump: "... they will LOVE you more than ever before."



How about doing something about one of the real emergencies, with 45k people dying per year due to lack of healthcare (see sig line), and tell his nazi party members to support Rep. Jayapal's bill.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:28 PM

35. The president of stoopid. Jazz hands deluxe.

“This will help stop Crime, Human Trafficking, and Drugs entering our Country. Watch, when you get back to your State, they will LOVE you more than ever before!”

NO, IT WON'T YOU IDIOT.

Why would you want to interfere with all your side hustles, anyway?

Pres-tidigitation sit down and shut up.

Nobody cares about you.





Please forgive me, BumRushDaShow. I just needed to vent. I feel better now. Thanks.


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