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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:12 AM

U.S. Treasury says Trump has privacy rights over any tax return request

Source: Reuters



MARCH 14, 2019 / 9:53 AM / UPDATED 18 MINUTES AGO

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury will try to shield President Donald Trump from a congressional request to see his tax returns but its efforts to protect his privacy will be the same given any taxpayer, the Treasury secretary said on Thursday.

“We will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said at a hearing in the U.S. House of Representatives, saying he had met with legal experts at the Treasury Department to discuss the matter.

Reporting by Jason Lange; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taxes/u-s-treasury-says-trump-has-privacy-rights-over-any-tax-return-request-idUSKCN1QV1ZA?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reuters+Politics+News%29

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Reply U.S. Treasury says Trump has privacy rights over any tax return request (Original post)
DonViejo Mar 14 OP
Iliyah Mar 14 #1
AllaN01Bear Mar 14 #3
notdarkyet Mar 14 #16
Shell_Seas Mar 14 #2
mahatmakanejeeves Mar 14 #5
ArizonaLib Mar 14 #10
lagomorph777 Mar 14 #4
ancianita Mar 14 #7
Nasruddin Mar 14 #12
ancianita Mar 14 #15
humbled_opinion Mar 14 #6
SayItLoud Mar 14 #8
BlueIdaho Mar 14 #9
The Truth Is Here Mar 14 #11
solara Mar 14 #14
groundloop Mar 14 #18
AZ8theist Mar 14 #22
The Truth Is Here Mar 14 #30
notdarkyet Mar 14 #24
vsrazdem Mar 14 #25
AZ8theist Mar 14 #21
BeyondGeography Mar 14 #27
The Truth Is Here Mar 14 #31
AZ8theist Monday #34
MrsCoffee Monday #36
duforsure Mar 14 #13
CanonRay Mar 14 #17
dalton99a Mar 14 #19
ffr Mar 14 #20
Bayard Mar 14 #23
SWBTATTReg Mar 14 #26
rickford66 Mar 14 #28
onetexan Mar 14 #29
leftynyc Mar 14 #32
Arazi Mar 14 #33
briv1016 Monday #35

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:16 AM

1. Bullshit

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:18 AM

3. you took the words right out of my mouth.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

16. Me too. Bullshit.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:16 AM

2. Oh, for crying out loud.

This can't be right.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:19 AM

5. "We will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights,..."

That sounds right to me.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:34 AM

10. I am not sure what they are, but there are exceptions

Various offices in law enforcement can have access to personal and business returns under various circumstances - I would think congress could also. Individual tax rights only completely hold up if no suspicion of wrongdoing exists. Suspicion/investigation of tax fraud throws out most statutes of limitations, etc. Not only that, but if congress subpoenas the president's tax returns, even if he resists, he maybe compelled - by that time the supreme court may not feel Trump is worth risking the court's standing by defending him, especially based on that Trump has not given any good reason to keep those records private - tax records for decades have been volunteered by all serious presidential candidates and presidents, so it is not out of the ordinary to provide them. If his attorneys use the excuse that his records are under review/audit by the IRS, he will need to produce all of the correspondence (not just a notice letter) dating from the initial notice letter, all of the years since he has claimed his records were under examination, through current to show they would be unavailable because of a review/audit. A normal review could go as far back as 5 - 7 years. A review going further back is fraud. Last I heard, statute of limitations for examinations go back 7 years - except in the case of fraud.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:19 AM

4. Nice try, Munchkin. Try reading the law.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/11/656610711/congress-really-can-demand-and-get-trumps-tax-returns-here-s-how

...When the "committee access" provision, as it's known, became law in 1924, Congress had been dealing with taxpayers' information in the Teapot Dome scandal afflicting the Harding administration and in a controversy involving former Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Like Trump, he had served in government while refusing to avoid conflicts of interest by letting go of his holdings.

The committee access provision has rarely been invoked, but here's how it would work...

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:29 AM

7. Per NPR "the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge." So that's ahead.

It's what litigious trumpanzees do.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:39 AM

12. Maybe Judge Thomas Ellis is available

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Response to Nasruddin (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:08 AM

15. ...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:27 AM

6. Abuse of Power

tRump told Treasury to bury the returns, with a wink and a nod. I am telling you now, watch for Shenanigans by the DOJ, FBI, IRS, etc during this upcoming campaign, dangerous tRump will use all levers of government to attack his political opposition, typical dictatorial style.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:31 AM

8. Said for Individual1 IMO. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:32 AM

9. Release the Subpoenas!

One for Trump’s tax records and one for Munchkin’s obstruction of justice.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:35 AM

11. I'm interested in knowing why Kamala Harris protected Mnuchin

 

And received money from him for her Senate campaign.

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Response to The Truth Is Here (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:58 AM

14. Haven't heard anything about Harris protecting Mnuchin

and taking money from him

Where did this story come from? Can you share the link?

Thanks

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Response to solara (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:22 AM

18. There will be no link..... that's just the right wing attacking one of our best candidates

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Response to groundloop (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:29 AM

22. You may very well be correct...

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Response to solara (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:30 AM

24. It's on the homepage. So much for Harris.

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Response to The Truth Is Here (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:28 AM

21. Citation, please?

If not, then STFU.

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:38 AM

27. Harris Was Only 2016 Senate Democratic Candidate to Get Cash From Mnuchin

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Response to The Truth Is Here (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 01:19 AM

34. Your source is the "Intercept"?? Seriously??

Founded by Glenn Greenwald, who to this day says Russia had no interference in our election in 2016??

Seriously??

"FACT" my ass.

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:28 AM

36. And the guy who wrote it isn't even a journalist. Check this out:

The intercept article is basically circular propaganda.

https://medium.com/kimbocoffin/the-story-behind-the-story-of-kamala-harris-and-steve-mnuchin-f58f64a5ec7f

Here we have this white bro David Dayden, who does not have journalist credentials but instead has made his living as a writer for far left propaganda publications, writing for the Intercept. He obviously doesn’t even contact Harris’ office for this story (because, again, he’s not an actual journalist), gets NO independent corroboration for any of his claims, yet his hack POS article gets repeated by all the other white bros (who are also not actual journalists) and picked up by other publications to the point where this same Dayden hack propaganda piece is essentially a firewall against finding ANY other story about her written by an actual journalist or analyst on the subject when you do a google search, but the piece is referred to under different names, so it looks like a bunch of different independently corroborated accounts. However, they all just circle back to this Dayden piece.

much more at link

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/21/1827095/-Kamala-Harris-and-the-big-lie-that-she-didn-t-prosecute-Mnuchin?

First and foremost, let’s point out that of all the attorney generals and elected representatives in the country during the financial crisis, there was ONE who chose to investigate and who went after the banks for a settlement. That was Kamala Harris. She didn’t get any prosecutions or convictions, but she did strong-arm the banks into turning a $2 billion settlement proposal into $25 billion of immediate payments.

This can’t be overlooked. Sen. Harris was entirely responsible for pulling out of negotiations in 2011 in order to force the banks to pay more. And it worked. So before you get all high and mighty about how you would have for sure jailed some bankers, weigh what good it did California families to get $25 billion compared to what they would have gotten from watching a complex civil proceeding play out over five years.

She got money to people losing their homes, and that was more important.


On the OneWest issue, it’s a misnomer (ie, lie) that Harris “didn’t prosecute Mnuchin.” He was never under investigation, and Harris didn’t receive a referral to criminally prosecute anyone. What she got was a recommendation to file a civil enforcement action against OneWest. In such a filing, no one person is accused of anything. Instead, an entire company is looked at, and perhaps fined for wrongdoing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:43 AM

13. Not when criminal activities are involved

Which will be easily proven , and if he suggested or threatened this by saying something to Mnunchin , that's more obstruction , and conspiracy to do so. This will not be accepted as law using this, and make those behind it look even more guilty. The head of the Treasury will be also in deep , deep trouble too from this.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

17. Subpoena him, with an order to bring the returns with him

When he fails to comply, cite him for Contempt of Congress and throw his ass in a cell.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:23 AM

19. Criminals protecting criminals

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM

20. Same as any taxpayer? Okay, I give my permission for congress to see mine.

Now, let them see tRumps so he's like me.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:30 AM

23. I can see three other sources for his tax returns

His accountant that prepares his taxes, and possibly the CFO of his companies?

Any financial institution that he's applied to for his business ventures. Maxine Waters is already working with Deutsche Bank.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:34 AM

26. Bullshit! Sorry about the language but privacy is a lower priority then the self-dealing, and

stuffing his pockets constantly with our tax dollars. There is a higher duty to Country and not one's privacy, especially when you're the so called president of the country. Revealing all about one's self is one's supreme duty to this country, especially if you are the chief executive.

What are you hiding!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:52 AM

28. There's always his NYS tax returns.

And they would have all the Federal return data included.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:58 AM

29. Good Forbes article on whether Congress can subpoena the Idiot's tax returns

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenrosenthal/2018/11/26/congress-can-and-should-demand-president-trumps-tax-returns/#8499c9f79b7a

As Nixon famously explained: “People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.”


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:25 PM

32. WHAT'S HE HIDING?

Need to be the mantra from every single Democrat, every single day.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:34 PM

33. Gauntlet thrown. Let the fight begin

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:32 AM

35. The Treasury Depertment is under the Executive Branch.

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