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Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:53 PM

Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

Source: NBC News



The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

Feb. 19, 2019, 12:00 PM EST

By Josh Lederman

BERLIN — The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event.

Although the decriminalization strategy is still being hashed out, officials say it’s likely to include working with global organizations like the United Nations, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, as well as other countries whose laws already allow for gay rights. Other U.S. embassies and diplomatic posts throughout Europe, including the U.S. Mission to the E.U., are involved, as is the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

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Reply Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality (Original post)
DonViejo Feb 2019 OP
Behind the Aegis Feb 2019 #1
Jose Garcia Feb 2019 #28
Dave Starsky Feb 2019 #2
Va Lefty Feb 2019 #3
rurallib Feb 2019 #4
oldsoftie Feb 2019 #26
JudyM Feb 2019 #5
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #20
Cartoonist Feb 2019 #6
sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #11
pangaia Feb 2019 #18
EleanorR Feb 2019 #21
sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #22
EleanorR Feb 2019 #23
area51 Feb 2019 #7
SoCalNative Feb 2019 #10
sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #8
Cirque du So-What Feb 2019 #9
jberryhill Feb 2019 #12
ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #13
riversedge Feb 2019 #14
sarge43 Feb 2019 #15
pangaia Feb 2019 #19
oldsoftie Feb 2019 #27
displacedtexan Feb 2019 #16
UniteTheLeft Feb 2019 #17
SunSeeker Feb 2019 #24
Eugene Feb 2019 #25
okaawhatever Feb 2019 #29
SylviaD Feb 2019 #30
Eugene Feb 2019 #31
RussBLib Feb 2019 #32
Progressive Jones Feb 2019 #33

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:57 PM

1. Charity starts at home!

How Is It Still Legal to Fire Someone for Being Gay?

Gay and lesbian workers are not completely without protection though. States, counties, and cities can pass their own laws that protect beyond what federal law does, and to date, twenty-two states and the District of Columbia do so. Another eleven states prohibit sexual orientation discrimination against the very narrow category of public employees. President Obama signed an executive order in 2014 protecting federal employees and contractors from sexual orientation discrimination, and President Trump has so far kept most, though not all, of that order intact.

This piecemeal approach to protecting gay workers means that a large number of people are protected in some form, but that people in the majority of states are not protected. That is, not protected unless the federal law, Title VII, is interpreted to already protect against sexual orientation discrimination, without being changed at all. That is the argument that the Second Circuit Court of Appeals adopted today.

more...

ETA: Ok, raise your hand if you read the headline about thought, "Wait? Now "the Onion" is allowed in LBN?!"

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

28. It's still legal because Congress never passed a law banning it

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:58 PM

2. I will love to hear him talk about this at his next rally.

Until then, I don't believe it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:01 PM

3. The bible thumpers will LOVE this!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:02 PM

4. Gotta say that is a turn I never expected

Can't wait to hear him sell it to his MAGAts.

I wonder if this may be worse than shooting someone on 5th avenue in the daylight?

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Response to rurallib (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:30 AM

26. Just may be! I cant wait to see the FB posts today from them. He IS Gods choice, ya know.

So that means THIS would be God's agenda!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:03 PM

5. Fundie heads will explode. Good.

As for the rest of us, this will not get him our vote.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:41 PM

20. They don't care. The ONLY thing they care about are anti-abortion judges.


They are suckers, hypocrites, sell-outs, christian-in-name-only.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:03 PM

6. What does Putin say?

Russia is one of those countries.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:12 PM

11. Russia decriminalized homosexual activity in 1993.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:12 PM

18. Perhaps, BUT..............

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:18 PM

21. There is a law banning gay "propaganda"

And there are no protections is place preventing discrimination again LGBTQ people.

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:00 PM

22. Almost like the US. Very close to what we have in Arkansas.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:38 PM

23. Especially sad given a majority support gay marriage and anti-discrimination laws

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:06 PM

7. Pence will be upset.

Rumor has it he was behind the push against Trans people in the military.

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Response to area51 (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:09 PM

10. Pence is probably stroking out

as we speak

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:06 PM

8. His base will not approve.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:06 PM

9. Any words for pooty-poot's realm?

Russia & former Soviet satellite nations have abysmal records in this regard. The good ol' US of A is hardly in a position to cast stones, for that matter.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:17 PM

12. Good


Surprising how many people would rather trash the gesture, however slight.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:19 PM

13. Has someone trashed this initiative?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:29 PM

14. Trump adm has a motive for this move.............


They want Europe to help with IRAN.
Callous to use gay rights in this manner.
Having said that---this move may help some gays from being persecuted or hanged.


.....Grenell, as Trump’s envoy to Germany, has been an outspoken Iran critic and has aggressively pressed European nations to abandon the 2015 nuclear deal and re-impose sanctions. But while the Trump administration has had some success in pressuring Iran through stepped-up U.S. penalties, efforts to bring the Europeans along have thus far largely fallen flat.

Reframing the conversation on Iran around a human rights issue that enjoys broad support in Europe could help the United States and Europe reach a point of agreement on Iran. Grenell called the hanging “a wake-up call for anyone who supports basic human rights,” in Bild, a leading German newspaper, this month.


“This is not the first time the Iranian regime has put a gay man to death with the usual outrageous claims of prostitution, kidnapping, or even pedophilia. And it sadly won’t be the last time,” Grenell wrote. “Barbaric public executions are all too common in a country where consensual homosexual relationships are criminalized and punishable by flogging and death.”

He added that “politicians, the U.N., democratic governments, diplomats and good people everywhere should speak up — and loudly.”

Yet by using gay rights as a cudgel against Iran, the Trump administration risks exposing close U.S. allies who are also vulnerable on the issue and creating a new tension point with the one region where Trump has managed to strengthen U.S. ties: the Arab world.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:42 PM

15. Yet Moron wants transgenders eliminated from the armed services.

Moron is fine with children being taken away from their families and locked in cages.

Moron apparently has no problem with Saudi Arabia having homosexuality a capital offense.

I'd say the Europeans will see this as the cynical maneuver it obviously is.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:15 PM

19. I knew there had to be SOME reason for doing this.



Sure as hell wasn't because trumpfucker gives two shits about anybody...

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Response to riversedge (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:33 AM

27. Well, we've all seen videos of gays being hanged and tossed off roofs alive by Islamists.

Among other horrible crimes.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:55 PM

16. Hmmm. I suspect something's about to come out (pun intended) about someone...

...Trump feels obligated to defend.

There's no way he would slight his dumbass deplorable base otherwise.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:58 PM

17. Trump....

 

Hypocrisy so dense it makes Ununoctium seem to float like Helium by comparison.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:42 AM

24. So Trump will tackle rampant violent homophobia by Prince Salman, Putin and Duterte?

I won't hold my breath.

I'm sure there is a cynical reason his administration is doing this (antagonizing Iran), but I guess we should welcome the crumbs when they come our way.

I hope Ambassador Grenell makes headway in overturning anti-gay laws around the world.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:17 AM

25. This is the work of Richard Grenell. He's trying to weaponize homophobia

against the "hateful foreign ideologies," as Trump calls them.

Source: Think Progress

Trump administration on decriminalizing homosexuality: Do as we say, not as we do

The administration voted previously against a U.N. resolution condemning the use of the death penalty to punish homosexuality.

The Trump administration is reportedly launching a campaign to decriminalize homosexuality around the world. According to NBC News, Iran is one of the primary targets of the effort, drawing attention to President Donald Trump’s history of conflating support for the LGBTQ community with Islamophobic messaging.

The catalyst for the decision appears to have been Iran’s hanging of a gay man in January. Iran has long been one of Trump’s biggest international foes, and the president has repeatedly threatened the nation against pushing back on the administration’s decision to reimpose sanctions that were rolled back under the Iran nuclear deal.

Leading the new campaign is Richard Grenell, U.S. ambassador to Germany. Grenell, an openly gay man and ultra-conservative, lashed out after the hanging, calling it “a wake-up call for anyone who supports basic human rights.”

Grenell himself has frequently pushed the concept of homonationalism in his social media posts. The term “homonationalism,” HuffPost notes, was coined by Rutgers University professor Jasbir K. Puar in 2007 and is considered “the intersection of gay identity and nationalist ideology” — including the reinforcement of Islamophobia.

-snip-


Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-administration-decriminalize-homosexuality-anti-lgbtq-homophobia-d926f03cbaa4/

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:49 PM

29. " a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record". This likely has less to do

with LGBTQ rights and more to do with inciting hate for Iran is the run up to his would-be war with Iran.


The right wingers have been working overtime to get anti-homosexuality bills passed in Africa and the Caribbean.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:54 PM

30. Wait, Trump is doing this? wtf????

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

31. Trump Appears Unaware of Administration Efforts to Decriminalize Homosexuality

Source: Daily Beast

COME AGAIN? 3 HOURS AGO

Trump Appears Unaware of Administration Efforts to Decriminalize Homosexuality

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday, President Donald Trump was caught off guard by a question about his administration’s reported plans to decriminalize homosexuality around the globe. “Mr. President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?” a reporter asked the president. Trump made the reporter repeat the question before answering, “I don’t know which report you’re talking about. We have many reports.”

NBC News reported this week that U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, who is openly gay, was leading the “global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay,” according to unnamed U.S. officials.




https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-appears-unaware-of-administration-efforts-to-decriminalize-homosexuality

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:03 PM

32. Really?

Gee, I wonder why I am skeptical about this?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:29 PM

33. Maybe he should start with the evangelical scum of the lower US. nt

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