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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:45 AM

Dem lawmaker: Omar's statements 'deeply hurtful to Jews'

Source: The Hill

Freshman Rep. Max Rose (D-N.Y.) said Sunday that his colleague Rep. Ilhan Omar's tweet suggesting that a pro-Israel lobbying group was buying off lawmakers was "deeply hurtful to Jews," including himself.

"When someone uses hateful and offensive tropes against people of any faith, I will not be silent," Rose wrote on Twitter. "Congresswoman Omar's statements are deeply hurtful to Jews, including myself. Implying that Americans support Israel because of money alone is offensive enough. But go a step further, and retweet someone declaring their pain at her sentiment is truly unacceptable."

"At a time when anti-Semitic attacks are on the rise, our leaders should not be invoking hurtful stereotypes and caricatures of Jewish people to dismiss those who support Israel. In the Democratic Party - and in the United States of America - we celebrate the diversity of our people, and the Gods we pray to, as a strength. The Congresswoman's statements do not live up to that cherished ideal."

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/429358-dem-lawmaker-omars-statements-deeply-hurtful-to-jews

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:03 AM

2. Jewish people are more than just AIPAC or Israel

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:12 PM

97. And AIPAC is always at the conventions

trying to suck up dollars and supporters; but mostly money.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:04 AM

3. Americans are going to have to get used to more diversity

It usually takes a while, about a generation or two, but we'll get it down eventually. We've done this before

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:39 AM

5. This isn't diversity

This is anti-semitism.

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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:30 AM

62. exactly...

so tired of this...

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:41 AM

6. How does suggesting Jews have a preternatural interest in money reflect diversity?

There's a quote from Trump that buys into that trope that I have cited here several times as proof of his bigotry.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:34 AM

16. Im Jewish but poor as fuck

Im one of the few lucky ones that has a roof over their heads. Yes i live with my family in the basement in a big house with my mom. I do work but i am legally disabled.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:44 AM

7. What are you talking about?

Are you saying that antisemitic comments are merely a sign of diversity? If you really believe that, what about anti-black or anti-gay comments? Are they merely signs of diversity too?

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:12 AM

25. Exactly!!!

It's Called Free Speech and Rep. Ilhan Omar has a right to it.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:22 AM

28. David Duke has a right to free speech too

But when he starts peddling anti-semitic bullshit I'm going to call him out too.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

44. Correct, and it is diversity.

But diversity means variety, the word does not have anything to do with good or evil.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:41 PM

82. Antisemitism is not diversity!

Telling me to get used to it is the same as saying that there are fine people on both sides! I won't get used to it because I'm sick of it!

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:41 PM

83. And accept duplicity?

Jewish community leaders previously expressed optimism after Omar criticized the BDS movement during an Aug. 6 Democratic candidates forum at Beth El Synagogue in St. Louis Park — about a week before Omar defeated four other candidates in the party’s primary. Omar said she supported a two-state solution in the Israel-Palestine conflict and that the BDS movement wasn’t helpful in trying to achieve that goal. Pressed by moderator Mary Lahammer to specify “exactly where you stand on that,” Omar replied that the BDS movement was “counteractive” because it stopped both sides from coming together for “a conversation about how that’s going to be possible.”

http://www.startribune.com/u-s-rep-elect-ilhan-omar-statements-on-israel-return-to-spotlight/500437501/

But as soon as she won the primary - with large support from the local Jewish community - she changed her tune.

I hope that they will be gather courage to oppose her next year.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:46 AM

8. Omar's statement is anti-semitic bullshit.

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Response to RelativelyJones (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:53 AM

9. She should know better.

I support the Israeli people but I have a huge problem with its right wing leadership as i do my own country's leadership. Trafficking in right wing tropes only drowns out legitimate criticism.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:02 AM

20. The House of Representatives changed their rules so that she could exercise her religion....

....and just weeks later she makes a comment like this and then doubles down with the "it's all about the Benjamins" comment?

Disgusting.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:04 AM

10. Rose

It is deeply hurtful to shoot Palestians, and to claim like Bibi you are for a two state solution while stealing the west bank and Jerusalem.

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Response to isenhour (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:17 AM

12. So the solution to that is to libel an entire religion?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:05 AM

21. You don't understand.

There are smears that are used to malign groups of people. These smears are often very clever. They don't appear - on the surface - to be bigoted. But they are bigoted. And they are meant to be bigoted.

And when it comes to the Jews, the smear involves money. "It's all about the Benjamins" with the Jews!

Now here's what you don't understand. Society has rejected most of these smears. But for some reason, it's still OK to smear Jews as a whole. Because Bibi. Or because whatever.

(I'm being a bit sarcastic, of course. Because you certainly understand what's going on here.)

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:01 AM

49. demsincebirth

It is about the money spent buying are pols, money corrupts all people, always has always will.

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Response to isenhour (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:08 AM

52. Israel's base are the eighty million evangelicals who support

Israel's base are the eighty million evangelicals who support everything it does. Why are there no yarns spun among dollar based conspiracies about them?

To put it colloquially whenever a person starts talking about Jews and money he or she is likely up to no good.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:16 AM

11. Unless there's some part of the original statement I haven't read

there's nothing hurtful or anti-semitic about the comment. AIPAC does buy off US politicians and are spreading their bull-sh*t anti BDS clauses around the country like a grass fire. I'm definitely not anti-semitic or anti Israel, but their sponsorship of unconstitutional legislation around the country is no different than what the Kochs do. There's places where you cannot get a job unless you agree in writing to never boycott Israel...that's some really weak BS. AIPAC does not represent all Israel or all Jewish people. She is right to denounce their strongarm bull-sh*t.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:21 AM

14. Hmmm

"There's nothing hurtful or anti-semitic" in suggesting "It's all about the Benjamins baby," when referring to Jewish support of Israel. ?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:35 AM

17. Certainly not looking to pick a fight...

what are these clearly unconstitutional clauses about if not money? I see little more here than someone pulling the discrimination card when not warranted.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

51. And now the media will undoubtedly

run this story into the ground, ignoring other very real stories. They've already given a ridiculous amount of time to Warren's Native American ancestry, which is just as republicans wanted. They push our buttons and play on our righteous indignation. Sometimes references to money are just about money and "Benjamins" about $100 bills.

We need to brace ourselves for two long years of this kind of stuff, distracting us from very real issues. The right wants to control the narrative and they are good at it if we allow it.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

95. Odd that, as I see little more here than...

"I see little more here than someone pulling the discrimination card when not warranted..."

Odd that, as I see little more here than someone minimizing and trivializing obvious and blatant antisemitism as something other than what it is.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:12 AM

53. So Is Saying GOP Support of Saudi Arabia...

...motivated by Saudi money anti-Muslim?

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:16 AM

55. Are there antediluvian anti-Islamic tropes that revolve around their lust for money?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

57. Except AIPAC is a PAC

They by definition make campaign contributions. It is worrisome that AIPAC gets a free pass just because they are connected to Israel.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

58. There are ways to criticize AIPAC without trafficking in anti-semitic tropes

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #58)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:05 PM

77. Can You Imagine if Trump Was Held to This Standard

But everyone piles on because a Muslim spoke ill of campaign contributions from a PAC.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:49 PM

87. Except AIPAC doesn't directly make campaign contributions

Don't let facts get in your way.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:14 AM

54. I'm confused, she never said "Jewish" support of Israel.

She said "AIPAC". AIPAC does spend money on Pro-Israel lobbying, so how exactly is it anti-semitic to point that out? Indeed, political lobbying is their stated mission.

AIPAC doesn't seem any different from any other lobbying organization (including, as one other commenter pointed out, the Kochs).



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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:18 AM

56. Why didn't she refer to the eighty million evangelicals who support Israel

Why didn't she refer to the eighty million evangelicals who support Israel as "being all about the Benjamins"?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:41 AM

64. Probably because the tweet she was responding to was not about evangelicals? nt

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:43 AM

65. So that exonerates her of making dark references to Jewish money?

"It's all about the Benjamins".


"Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?"

-The Merchant of Venice



The test of whether or not a statement is offensive is usually whether or not the person or group being referenced find it offensive. Why are we suspending that test in this instance?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #65)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:51 AM

69. Where did she mention "Jewish" money?

AIPAC is a lobbying organization that does what all lobbying organizations do. Criticism of AIPAC is not necessary criticism of "Jewish" anything.

Aren't we supposed to not be cool with PACs spending money on political lobbying? Is there no possibility of non-anti-semitic criticism of AIPAC?

EDIT: Can I criticize Sheldon Adelson?

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #69)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:54 AM

71. You can criticize Israeli policies without being anti-semitic.

One of the ways you can criticize Israeli policies without being anti-semitic is without making dark allusions to Jewish money, i.e. "It's all about the Benjamins."

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:04 PM

76. But in the case of a lobbying org, isn't is always about money?

Is Omar able to criticize AIPAC political spending at all without seeming anti-Semitic? If not, is it because of her history of comments on Israel, or is it just a general rule for everyone not to talk about AIPAC's spending because of the historical conspiracy theories against Jews?

I want to emphasize that I am not trying to be difficult here. There are plenty of folks on this thread that I could have asked questions to, but you have a good reputation in my eyes for your comments on DU, and I figured you would be the best person to ask.

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:36 PM

81. Well argued. To which I might add ... if someone implies 'it's all about the Benjamins' ...

When leveling a criticism, why should one logically assume that the money-related aspect of the criticism is directed towards the person(s) handing OUT said Benjamins, as opposed to criticizing those who are ACCEPTING them?

To illustrate: if a random person said to you 'I'm all about the Benjamins', would you assume that person is referring to money that they:
A) Give Out, or
B) Receive?

I'm guessing most everyone would assume the latter.

Seems to me there's maybe a bit of an assumption being made that this is meant to be 'trafficking in an anti-Semitic trope', when that is really not necessarily the case.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:45 PM

85. Depends on if the person is at the strip club!

As for Omar, I don't know much about her except her previous statements about Israel "hypnotizing" the west, for which she apologized. She really needs to take care in the future to be more precise about who she is actually criticizing.

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #85)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:48 PM

86. Once again, I agree ... (nt)

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:53 PM

91. Thank you for the kind words. I don't know if I'm always thoughtful.

I do know I'm always passionate. Netanyahu sucks. Got that out of the way.

IMO whenever one talks about Jews, money, and power he or she is treading in dangerous waters.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:02 PM

96. Very true, Omar already had the reputation from her previous comments as well.

I just didn't want you to think I was attacking you or anything. I appreciate that you take the time to discuss things.

Israel is such a tough subject because on the one hand there is the whole history of anti-semitism, while on the other hand we should be able to criticize groups that identify with foreign nations if we feel those groups are promoting policies that are wrong-headed.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:54 PM

92. I wonder if she considers all political contributions to be buying politicians

Or is it just the Jewish contributors?

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Response to ripcord (Reply #92)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

93. Or a politicians support of this or that issue is contingent on money...

Or a politician's support of this or that issue is contingent on money, especially from certain sources.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:07 AM

22. Truth

It is true that AIPAC buys off politicians, that is it’s whole purpose. It is not antisemitic at all.
The real shame is that Israel and the Israeli lobby have spent so much money and effort convincing legilators that they have a right to violate human rights of Palestinians. If only they had spent that kind of money and effort making more peaceful solutions, things could be so much better. Looking past this controversy to create a better Israel/Palestine should be the goal here.

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Response to McKim (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:10 AM

24. Can you name politicians who have been bought off by AIPAC?

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Response to McKim (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:18 AM

26. You don't see anything wrong with the suggestion Jews are preternaturally concerned with money?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:18 AM

13. Omar's statements are simply unacceptable.

One would hope that Omar, an adherent to a minority religion that is also incessantly demonized by some in this nation, would be a little more sensitive to this sort of thing. One would hope...

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

29. I'm seeing more and more Louis Farrakhan in Omar's remarks.

She may not be connected in any way to Farrakhan, but she echoes him, and his vicious anti-Jewish remarks.

As to Netanyahu(sp?) and his actions, sooner or later he'll be voted out.

It's inevitable.

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Response to Archae (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:47 AM

40. Sadly, I think you're correct.

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Response to Archae (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:49 AM

68. How Exactly Do You Equal Farrakhan with Rep Omar....

Saying Its All About The Benjamin's with Many Politicians and AIPAC? Where exactly is he in her statement there?

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:52 PM

89. "The Jews are paying off politicians..."

Exactly WHO is getting "paid off?"

And by who?

This is just anti-Jewish hysteria, sounding like the shit put out by Farrakhan.

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Response to Archae (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:16 PM

98. Let's Get All Of Rep. Omar's Statement (It's A Tweet By The Way) on the Record, Shall We....



Again, we ask, Where Oh Where Did SHE Mention Jewish People or Farrakhan?

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #98)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:10 PM

99. Thank you for posting this.

It seems to me that she is referring to Kevin McCarthy, or 'political leaders'. This is not antisemitism, it's about politicians being bought, which just about everyone agrees with.

Even tweeting 'AIPAC' in response to a question about who is doing the buying, does not seem antisemitic to me.

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Response to scipan (Reply #99)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:27 PM

100. You're Welcome!

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:25 AM

15. Very disappointing comment, hopefully she apologizes today and not with...

...something like "I apologize to anyone who might have been offended" - it should be an unequivocal apology.

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:15 PM

78. I don't think she's sorry

She's been toying with this type of rhetoric for a while.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:47 AM

18. That didn't sound anti-Semitic to me

It sounded anti AIPAC and anti Bibi Netanyahu and his right-wing government. Every reference to money is not necessarily a slur. In this case, it is more of a political statement about Netanyahu's corrupt administration and party. Netanyahu and other right-wing Israeli politicians openly brag about having Washington "wrapped around their finger".

You can support Israel and its people while opposing their corrupt government and its lobbyists. But that would take political courage.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:49 AM

19. "It's all about the Benjamins"?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:08 AM

23. Yes!!!!

The Netanyahu government has done Israel no favors. They have backed themselves into a difficult corner but another Israel/Palestine is possible!

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Response to McKim (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:20 AM

27. The fact that Netanyahu is a reactionary jerk gives one license to slander a whole religion?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:38 AM

33. I don't see the greed and avarice

of lobbyists or Netanyahu's administration as a reflection on a religion or the Jewish people. We wouldn't hesitate to criticize other lobbyists for greed, but if it's for Bibi's administration, we can't mention money? And that is exactly what he wants. He plays American politicians as fools and doesn't even pretend he isn't doing it.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:43 AM

36. "It's all about the Benjamins baby"






Why did she resurrect this antediluvian anti-semitic trope and ignore the eighty million evangelical voters who are the actual Israel lobby?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

30. Exactly!!

This Right Here!!!

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

32. What other entire religions is it okay to slander because one of its adherents is contemptible?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:57 AM

73. Jerrold Nadler and the American Jewish Committee think it was anti-Semitic.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:53 PM

102. +1

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:32 AM

31. This is simply the Elders of Zion with a modern twist

A twist that apparently makes it acceptable to many here.

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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:38 AM

34. If a person

If a person stakes out a position he or she can not logically defend either he or she is not very bright or the position is inherently odious.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:41 AM

35. Any and all criticism of Israel

Will be deemed anti Semitic, no matter the facts regarding Isreals strong armed lobbying tactics.

Meanwhile it will be enforced to ignore reality of this subject and tacit approval given to bash Muslims on the rebound.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:45 AM

38. +1

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:47 AM

41. Do you find anti-semitic tropes acceptable?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

43. Excuse me?

What has that got to do with my agreeing with the comment above? Don't insert your anger into my comments, please.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:55 AM

46. Why are you assuming I'm angry?

I am just trying to learn when yarns about deep dark Jewish conspiracies are acceptable and when they aren't, and if they become acceptable or unacceptable depending on who is telling them.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:00 AM

48. Because context matters?



Well, it might be more fruitful for you understand what you seek if you can avoid assuming what others are thinking or agreeing to.

I really don't care to fight about this, I expressed agreement with what one person said and now I find you following me from comment to comment badgering me about it. Honestly

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #48)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

50. It's a comment board.

I oppose anti-semitism, xenophobia, homophobia, nativism. Islamophobia, et cetera and my denunciation of those forms of prejudice are consistent. It does seem some forms of bigotry are more acceptable than others, depending on the environs.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:45 AM

39. So how much anti-semitism in the service of opposition to Netanyahu is acceptable?

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A little, a lot, how much?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:57 AM

74. I didn't view what she said as antisemetic

Clearly stating the pro Israeli lobby uses its money to willing Congress people, it's one of the most powerful lobbies and had shaped the US middle East policy. Of which Palestinians has suffered greatly.

What I am pointing out is the double standard on this site when it comes to Isreal.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #74)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:02 PM

75. Why didn't she refer to the eighty million evangelicals who support Israel (REDUX)

Why no antediluvian yarns about Christian conspiracies?

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #74)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:21 PM

80. Double standard?

Look, there have been threads about synagogues torched in Germany (scumbag wasn't charged with a hate crime because he said it was in protest of Israel), Jews regularly harassed in the US, Canada, and European nations and they get few if any responses. Someone looks sideways at anyone Muslim on a random Monday and the thread is 200 replies within an hour. That's a double standard.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:19 PM

79. The Democratic Party (and the 80 percent of Jews who support it) have been honest on Israel

There's a reason that the GOP has essentially taken the position that Israel can do no wrong over the past 20 years. They think Democratic honesty on Israel will hurt support among Jews. It has not, because most American Jews see Israel honestly. You can support its right to exist without supporting its treatment of Palestinians.

Allowing open Anti-Semitism into the party is not a way to maintain this balance.

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Response to theboss (Reply #79)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:45 PM

84. Thank You!!!!

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Response to theboss (Reply #79)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:51 PM

88. As I said and keep saying

You can not critisize Isreal and it's actions without being called an antisemite on DU.

Nor it's powerful foreign lobby that has shaped American middle east foreign policy.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:53 PM

90. Yes you can.

You can't say that the only reason Americans support Israel is because Jews pay them.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:44 AM

37. I can't even find her statement anywhere...

what did she say? I mean what did she actually say?

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #37)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:49 AM

42. "It's all about the Benjamins baby"

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:53 AM

45. Thanks.

Now I know what she said.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:57 AM

47. I despise Netanhayu as much as Trump, and that's a whole freaking lot.

But I don't blame all of Christendom for him and his messed up policies.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

59. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) is Baptist

<OPE>

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:28 AM

60. What religion are the contributors in this reference?

And what conspiracy about money explains near unanimous evangelical support for Israel?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #60)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:30 AM

61. What difference does that make?

The motivation assigned was to McCarthy (R-CA).

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #61)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:35 AM

63. Because

Because the assertion embodied in the sentiment was the suggestion McCarthy is a tool of Jewish money. It's more likely that he is responding to the eighty million evangelicals who give carte blanche to all of Netanyahu's poilicies.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #63)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:46 AM

66. Seems to be the assertion is that he is the tool of money.

Pretty straight forward assertion at that, if a little sarcastic.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #66)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:47 AM

67. And whose money is it primarily?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #67)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:52 AM

70. What difference does it make?

The Congresswoman is accusing the Republican Minority Leader of being motivated by political contributions. That is so unbelievably non-controversial that I suspect people are going after her for some other reason.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:56 AM

72. Context matters

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

94. Are you unaware that the biggest historial anti-semitic notion is that Jews bribe leaders?

As soon as you start hearing "money hungry" and "bribes" when it comes to Judaism, bad things follow.

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Response to theboss (Reply #94)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:07 PM

101. Anti-semitism and progressivism are mutually exclusive.

The former is the most antediluvian of thought.

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