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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:53 AM

Sandusky, Ohio, dumps Columbus Day and declares Election Day a paid holiday

Source: CNN

By Ray Sanchez, CNN 8 hrs ago

The small north-central Ohio city of Sandusky, on the shore of Lake Erie, has unwillingly thrust itself into a contentious nationwide debate over increasing voter turnout: officially swapping Columbus Day for Election Day as a paid holiday.

"Some of it was just dumb luck as to the timing of the national conversation," City Manager Eric Wobser told CNN on Saturday.

The new rule, which takes effect this year, coincides with sweeping Democratic legislation that would make Election Day a federal holiday, prohibit the purging of voter rolls and require presidential candidates to release their tax returns, among other changes.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell last week drew backlash from Democrats for calling the House bill a "power grab," mocking it as the "Democratic Politician Protection Act" and arguing that it rewrites the "the rules of Americans politics for the exclusive benefit of the Democratic Party.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sandusky-ohio-dumps-columbus-day-and-declares-election-day-a-paid-holiday/ar-BBTnQGh?li=BBnbfcL

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Reply Sandusky, Ohio, dumps Columbus Day and declares Election Day a paid holiday (Original post)
Judi Lynn Sunday OP
forgotmylogin Sunday #1
SergeStorms Sunday #2
Drahthaardogs Sunday #5
SergeStorms Sunday #6
Drahthaardogs Sunday #7
SergeStorms Sunday #14
Drahthaardogs Sunday #15
SergeStorms Monday #17
Drahthaardogs Monday #18
JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #9
Drahthaardogs Sunday #10
heliarc Monday #20
Drahthaardogs Monday #21
csziggy Sunday #8
MicaelS Sunday #12
csziggy Sunday #16
jcmaine72 Sunday #3
marble falls Sunday #4
obamanut2012 Sunday #11
California_Republic Sunday #13
brooklynite Monday #19

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:58 AM

1. Mitch would know.

That's his modus operandi. He doesn't like rules that will screw with it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:14 AM

2. Good for Sandusky!

That's a great idea. Columbus Day "celebrates" a genocidal murderer and should be banned throughout the United States. Sorry my Italian friends, but you have so many other true Italian heroes to choose from, pick one that doesn't carry so much genocidal baggage. Besides, America was "discovered" by the Clovis people around 13,000 years ago. It's kinda' hard "discovering" a body of land when people are already living there. And Columbus thought he had discovered Japan. Just choose another Italian who was outstanding in his/her field.

Only McTurtle would think giving people time to vote is a "power grab". This only confirms what we've known all along; Republicans want to suppress the vote as much as possible. They only want their people voting. Everyone else must be kept away from the polls as far as they're concerned, and they've raised voter suppression to an art form.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:58 AM

5. Columbus Day celebrated Italian Americans

And was made a national holiday as an apology for the way they were treated.

It has nothing to do with Columbus the man as far as it's national holiday status.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:07 PM

6. Uhhhh...

that's not what we were taught in school. "Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492", and all that crap. Perhaps that's the way Italian Americans want it celebrated now, but it's origin had nothing to do with the way Italian immigrants were treated upon their arrival to the United States.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:32 PM

7. Well you were taught wrong

It was made a National Holiday to honor Italian Americans. Feel free to Google it. You might learn something like the largest mass lynching in America's victims were Sicilian immigrants.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:44 PM

14. Revisionist history.

I went to primary school in the 1950s. I imagine you did the same 20-30 years after. Please, don't attempt to tell me what I learned in school at that time, OK? Columbus was looked upon as the "discoverer of America" at that time. In the 70s academics finally got through to people that Columbus wasn't the great guy everyone made him out to be. That's when the "revisionist history" took place. Maybe that's what you were taught, but up until a certain point in time it wasn't what was taught in America's schools. Period. Discussion over.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:54 PM

15. It. Became. A. NATIONAL. HOLIDAY. Because

Of lobbying by Italian Americans and the Knights of Columbus.

It had been a holiday for years. It was NOT NATIONALIZED until 1937. The political motivation was to give Italian Americans a holiday and win some votes.

It was NOT NATIONALIZED because of Columbus or any great love for the man.

I'm sorry this doesn't make you happy, but it's the truth.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/exploration/columbus-day

Now the fucking discussion is over!

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:49 AM

17. Apparently you stopped reading...

at "Franklin Roosevelt declared Columbus Day a national holiday in 1937".

"In recent decades, Native Americans and other groups have protested the celebration of an event that resulted in the colonization of the Americas, the beginnings of the transatlantic slave trade and the deaths of millions from murder and disease.

European settlers brought a host of infectious diseases, including smallpox and influenza, that decimated indigenous populations. Warfare between Native Americans and European colonists claimed many lives as well.

Several U.S. cities and states have replaced Columbus Day with alternative days of remembrance. Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon and South Dakota have officially replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day, as have cities like Denver, Phoenix and Los Angeles."

I'm not going to argue this rather insipid point any further. You go right ahead and celebrate Christopher Columbus's "achievements" in any way you see fit. Have a wonderful day. Buh-bye.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:28 AM

18. Nice bait and switch

Fail. I said Columbus Day was made a NATIONAL holiday to honor Italian Americans.

You said I was wrong.

Now I handed your ass to you so you come back quoting stuff that has nothing to do with your position.

No one said groups were not boycotting it.



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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:18 PM

9. Hey, yesterday was National Pizza Day!

I didn't know Columbus day was associated with an apology. I thought it just celebrated Columbus getting to what he thought was India. And then it morphed into a celebration of Italian heritage.

It was never a "serious, big" holiday. None of the places I worked got the day off. Most federal offices were closed, and some state/local offices, but not much in the private sector.

Voting day should be a day off, unless voting is done by mail, with a long early voting period for those of us who just like going to the polling places.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:56 PM

10. It was made a National Holiday because of lobbying by Italian Americans

And considering the way America treated us, it should remain.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:37 AM

20. Then it should be called "Most Italians aside from Columbus Day"

Because Columbus is a deeply offensive character to Native American people, and Capone was a shitty guy too, but pizza and Parmiggiano is great.

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Response to heliarc (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:48 PM

21. Al Capone was no more shitty than Rockefeller

One is called a thug the other a hero.

Suggest you read up on the Ludlow Massacre and see that Rockefeller murdered children.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:10 PM

8. A small nit to pick - there were people in the Americas before the Clovis people arrived

Yeah, I know - when I took Anthropology in the 1970s any sites earlier than Clovis were highly discounted. Now the dating is more accurate and there are many pre-Clovis sites across both North and South America. Here is just one that is sort of close to me:

Pre-Clovis occupation 14,550 years ago at the Page-Ladson site, Florida, and the peopling of the Americas

Science Advances 13 May 2016:
Vol. 2, no. 5, e1600375
DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.1600375

Abstract

Stone tools and mastodon bones occur in an undisturbed geological context at the Page-Ladson site, Florida. Seventy-one radiocarbon ages show that ~14,550 calendar years ago (cal yr B.P.), people butchered or scavenged a mastodon next to a pond in a bedrock sinkhole within the Aucilla River. This occupation surface was buried by ~4 m of sediment during the late Pleistocene marine transgression, which also left the site submerged. Sporormiella and other proxy evidence from the sediments indicate that hunter-gatherers along the Gulf Coastal Plain coexisted with and utilized megafauna for ~2000 years before these animals became extinct at ~12,600 cal yr B.P. Page-Ladson expands our understanding of the earliest colonizers of the Americas and human-megafauna interaction before extinction.

More: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/5/e1600375

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Response to csziggy (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 04:19 PM

12. Glad to see this.

I think humans were here a lot earlier that that. I'm talking 25-30,000 YBP. Since it was during the last major ice age, the seas would have been lower and thus any evidence is buried deep underwater. The pro-Clovis types have seemed to be almost religiously fanatical in clinging to Clovis.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:55 PM

16. I agree - there were people in South America pre-Clovis

Whether they came across the Bering Straits or across the Pacific, to be there in enough numbers for traces to be found they had to have arrived much earlier.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:06 AM

3. Glad to hear it!

Our most precious and sacred right as a free people is far more worthy of being observed as a paid holiday than the criminal exploits of some greedy, genocidal scumbag and 5th rate explorer who, despite given four cracks at doing so, couldn't even locate his original destination.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:40 AM

4. Sandusky is not a liberal town.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:22 PM

11. I know, was so surprised to see it was there!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:29 PM

13. Wow A double win

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:26 AM

19. Lets be clear about something here...

This impacts ONLY municipal employees. Private sector employers are under no obligation to do likewise.

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