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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:03 AM Jan 2019

Democrats Propose to Add $1 Billion in Border Spending

Source: PoliticalWire



January 19, 2019 at 7:56 am EST By Taegan Goddard

“House Democrats have added more than $1 billion in border-related spending to a package of funding bills that would reopen most of the government, even as President Trump said he would have a ‘major announcement’ on Saturday about the border and the shutdown stalemate,” the New York Times reports.

“Both sides’ actions were the first indications of possible movement over the shutdown after a week of inertia and harsh words between Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Mr. Trump.”

“The proposal to include more spending on border measures is scheduled for a vote next week… The plan reflects a shift in strategy by congressional Democrats, who have maintained that they would not give the president a counterproposal until he drops his insistence on a wall and signs legislation to reopen the government.”

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Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2019/01/19/democrats-propose-to-add-1-billion-in-border-spending/

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Democrats Propose to Add $1 Billion in Border Spending (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
can not cave to trump. End shutdown BEFORE negotiations beachbum bob Jan 2019 #1
Agree. Sinistrous Jan 2019 #2
totally wrong and STUPID move at this point and is what TRUMP WANTS, once he beachbum bob Jan 2019 #3
second that onetexan Jan 2019 #20
As long as they refuse to fund his phallic wall they are not caving cstanleytech Jan 2019 #5
you have to view it from trumps position. Democrats are giving SOMETHING....a real bad move beachbum bob Jan 2019 #6
I agree. They're taking the focus off wall and onto REAL border security measures. Demit Jan 2019 #8
he has NOT spent all the money from the last budget for border security scarytomcat Jan 2019 #12
. dalton99a Jan 2019 #14
Then it will sit there so long as they do not provide him with the authorization to spend cstanleytech Jan 2019 #15
They haven't given him anything yet. Demit Jan 2019 #16
Does this "feel good"? No. Is it smart and necessary politically? I think so. Atticus Jan 2019 #4
Agreed. silverweb Jan 2019 #11
Make it contigent on the Gov reopening and ONLY for border security,not a penny for his wall.... Bengus81 Jan 2019 #7
Wrong move, Dems. old guy Jan 2019 #9
I think this is one of the original offers they made. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #19
I knew this .... Apollyonus Jan 2019 #10
Trump won't take their offer of another billion,NOTHING less than what he demands. Dems are SMART... Bengus81 Jan 2019 #17
If McConnell does not allow a vote on this it shows that the Republicans do not want to negotiate. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #13
One person is shutting down an entire branch of government. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #18
No, no, no. Do not cave! tclambert Jan 2019 #21
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. totally wrong and STUPID move at this point and is what TRUMP WANTS, once he
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:48 AM
Jan 2019

smells concessions he will be even more emboldened

cstanleytech

(26,273 posts)
5. As long as they refuse to fund his phallic wall they are not caving
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jan 2019

as adding additional funding for border spending.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. you have to view it from trumps position. Democrats are giving SOMETHING....a real bad move
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jan 2019

at this point and has nothing to do with shutdown demand of trump

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
8. I agree. They're taking the focus off wall and onto REAL border security measures.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

It's not as much making the first move, it's reframing the issue. Plus it steals his thunder from whatever the hell his announcement today is supposed to be.

cstanleytech

(26,273 posts)
15. Then it will sit there so long as they do not provide him with the authorization to spend
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jan 2019

the money for the wall he was demanding.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
16. They haven't given him anything yet.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jan 2019

They haven't voted on the bill yet; it hasn't gone to the Senate yet; and the Senate is adjourned till the 29th anyway.

That's a lot of time for getting news coverage on what exactly it is the Dems are proposing. The news won't be able to "both-sides" the issue anymore. The onus will be on Trump to respond. The news will be focused on HOW he responds. If he rejects the Dems proposal & keeps insisting on a wall instead, with the shutdown dragging on he'll look more & more stupid and unreasonable to more & more people. The pressure is on him. I think this is a smart move.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. Does this "feel good"? No. Is it smart and necessary politically? I think so.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:55 AM
Jan 2019

I understand the "Don't give an inch!" attitude. But, this money is NOT for the wall and it demonstrates that Trump is lying when he say's we "want open borders" and "don't care about border security".

This will further erode Trump's approval rating.

There is every reason to trust Speaker Pelosi's judgment.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
11. Agreed.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jan 2019

We'll have to wait to see what actually happens, but this offer also makes Dems look very reasonable and the GOP unreasonably intransigent if they don't budge - especially in light of the suffering this shutdown is causing for so many.



Bengus81

(6,930 posts)
7. Make it contigent on the Gov reopening and ONLY for border security,not a penny for his wall....
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jan 2019

Then if Trump wants to keep Gov shut down it's once again all on HIM.

forgotmylogin

(7,522 posts)
19. I think this is one of the original offers they made.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jan 2019

Sounds like the money is for "border security" specifically and not the wall.

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
10. I knew this ....
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

Compassionate and caring people always have to cave in to heartless bastards when suffering starts. Republicans and Trump don't give a flying fuck about people living from paycheck to paycheck. They knew that if the squeeze was on, democrats would cave because they wouldn't be able to bear the suffering.

Bengus81

(6,930 posts)
17. Trump won't take their offer of another billion,NOTHING less than what he demands. Dems are SMART...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 02:44 PM
Jan 2019

Offer up some more money ONLY for border security,the Gov MUST be opened first and let that asshat turn them down flat. Him and Turtle will still OWN the shutdown.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
13. If McConnell does not allow a vote on this it shows that the Republicans do not want to negotiate.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jan 2019

Also by him saying there will not be a vote on anything that Trump will refuse to sign, it shows that he is not following the Constitution. As leader of the Senate he works for Congress and the people, not Trump.

forgotmylogin

(7,522 posts)
18. One person is shutting down an entire branch of government.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 04:28 PM
Jan 2019

That's not supposed to happen because it's how checks and balances work. Mitch is in cahoots with 45 of course because he's lawful-evil and sides with whoever butters his butt. Can they have a hearing and make him answer questions about his flagrant rule abuse?

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