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Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:19 PM

Liberals dare Trump to back their bills lowering drug prices

Source: AP

WASHINGTON — Challenging President Donald Trump to make good on his pledge to cut prescription drug prices, congressional liberals proposed legislation Thursday to bring U.S. prices in line with the much lower costs in other countries.

The Democratic bills stand little chance of becoming law in a divided government. But the effort could put Republicans on the defensive by echoing Trump’s pledge to force drugmakers to cut prices.

Democrats and Trump agree that people in the United States shouldn’t have to pay more for their medications than do those in other economically advanced countries.

The Trump administration has put forward its own plan for reducing drug prices, but industry analysts have seen little impact so far. The pharmaceutical industry said the Democratic bills would “wreak havoc on the U.S. health care system.”

Read more: https://www.columbiatribune.com/zz/news/20190110/liberals-dare-trump-to-back-their-bills-lowering-drug-prices

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Reply Liberals dare Trump to back their bills lowering drug prices (Original post)
TexasTowelie Jan 10 OP
Bilegurken Jan 10 #1
pnwmom Jan 10 #2
watoos Jan 10 #4
pnwmom Jan 11 #5
TeamPooka Jan 10 #3
pnwmom Jan 11 #6
TeamPooka Jan 11 #7

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:26 PM

1. Obviously this was another campaign lie

from Trump. Republicans could have lowered those things overnight. Chose not to. He's gonna find some stupid way to either oppose it and link it to trying to get his silly wall, OR he is going to simply not even notice or pay attention to what happens in congress. And Turtle man sure ain't gonna put anything through the senate to get his attention about it either. Another lie about lowering drug prices from the Tangerine Tyrant.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:52 PM

2. Some of this bill is good, but not the part about importing drugs from Canada.

Why? Because Canada has made it clear that they will NOT regulate, inspect, or have anything to do with drugs that pass through Canada on the way to the US. Some of the pharmacy sites where US customers might order drugs only have a Canadian mailing address -- they're not actually in Canada, despite the deceptive advertising.

IOW, the drugs US consumers will get are NOT the same ones that Canadians get, which ARE regulated and inspected. We have already had a problem with fake drugs from Canada being discovered in the US mail in Seattle.

The REAL solution is not to add US consumers onto the Canadian system with only 1/10 of our population, trying to funnel our drugs through that country. It is for US pharmacies to be able to negotiate the same prices directly with the manufacturers as are paid by the pharmacies in Canada.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

4. Where do you think we get our drugs?

It's been a while since I heard this argument about getting drugs from Canada. The drugs that Merck or anyone else makes in India are made under the same conditions as Merck makes them here. The difference is Merck makes a bottle of pills for $10 in India, ships it to Cardinal health or whoever, they take their cut, then they ship the bottle to CVS who sells the pills for $80.

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Response to watoos (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:24 AM

5. You don't get it. Some of the pills that appear to be shipped from legitimate sources to Canada,

where they are carefully regulated and inspected, don't actually come from those sources. And they are not regulated or inspected in Canada or here. They are just routed here through the mail, and the consumer has no way to know if they're getting a genuine drug or a counterfeit.

Not every drug factory is created equal. Just because Merck makes some drugs in India doesn't mean that every drug that comes from India (or anywhere) and goes through Canada, is a legit drug that IS what it says it is.

For consumers in Canada, the government makes sure consumers are getting the product they're supposed to be getting. But the government has clearly stated that drugs on their way to the US could be counterfeit -- there is no assurance that they are the same product sold in Canada; and the online pharmacy might not be associated with Canada at all.

So why can't we write GOOD legislation, that links our prices for genuine Merck products with the prices in Canada, instead of a bill that makes US citizens easy marks for scammers with online sites?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:06 PM

3. just let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate prices

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:26 AM

6. And the companies on the exchanges. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 12:35 AM

7. yes. Let competition exist and prices will drop.

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