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Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:30 PM

Millions face delayed tax refunds, cuts to food stamps as White House scrambles to deal with shutdow

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Millions face delayed tax refunds, cuts to food stamps as White House scrambles to deal with shutdown’s consequences

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Food stamps for 38 million low-income Americans face severe reductions and more than $140 billion in tax refunds are at risk of being frozen or delayed if the government shutdown stretches into February, widespread disruptions that threaten to hurt the economy.

The Trump administration, which had not anticipated a long-term shutdown, recognized only this week the breadth of the potential impact, several senior administration officials said. The officials said they’re focused now on understanding the scope of the consequences and determining whether there is anything they can do to intervene.



Thousands of federal programs are affected by the shutdown, but few intersect with the public as much as the tax system and the Department of Agriculture’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, a modern-day version of food stamps.

The partial shutdown has cut off new funding to the Treasury Department and the USDA, leaving them largely unstaffed and crippling both departments’ ability to fulfill core functions...............

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/millions-face-delayed-tax-refunds-cuts-to-food-stamps-as-white-house-scrambles-to-deal-with-shutdown%e2%80%99s-consequences/ar-BBROykA



I imagine most trumpsters will be happy that folks will not be getting their good stamps.



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Reply Millions face delayed tax refunds, cuts to food stamps as White House scrambles to deal with shutdow (Original post)
riversedge Jan 4 OP
IronLionZion Jan 4 #1
PatrickforO Jan 4 #4
PatrickforO Jan 4 #2
at140 Jan 4 #3
PatrickforO Jan 4 #5
at140 Jan 4 #6
customerserviceguy Jan 4 #10
WhiteTara Jan 4 #7
BumRushDaShow Jan 4 #8
left-of-center2012 Jan 4 #9
littlemissmartypants Jan 5 #12
customerserviceguy Jan 4 #11

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:42 PM

1. Will millions understand that immigrants are not the ones ruining their lives?

The wall won't help keep out problems like petulant Republican politicians being shitty

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:44 PM

4. Heck, the wall isn't even gonna help the immigration situation since

most are not illegal border crossers, but are visa over stayers. This guy is such a total loser.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:43 PM

2. And Trump is sitting there like a big orange piece of you-know-what,

saying, "Oh, yeah, this shutdown could go on a long time...months...years."

He is SUCH a sorry, pathetic excuse of a man.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:43 PM

3. What happens to those who owe IRS tax for 2018?

Can they delay tax owed by number of days the government is shutdown,
because no one from IRS was available to help answer their questions?

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Response to at140 (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:47 PM

5. Good point. I might call my Senator, Cory Gardner,

and float the idea that my taxes-owed should be reduced in the same ratio as the number of days the shutdown is in effect.

For example, if the shutdown goes on for three months, then my tax liability for 2019 tax year should be reduced to 75% of the net amount as a credit for services not received.

Sounds fair to me!

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:53 PM

6. Plz keep us informed if Cory Gardner responds to your query!

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Response to at140 (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:07 PM

10. Good luck with that

The IRS isn't going to cut anyone any slack because of the shutdown.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:13 PM

7. except most trumpsters are on food stamps

at least in my state.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:34 PM

8. So it took 2 weeks for the media to emphasize that a shutdown was not just the NPS

as hundreds of TSA screeners call out sick @ JFK airport each day... and they refuse to mention what else USDA does besides SNAP.... like... ummm... inspecting meat and poultry (most likely with a much-reduced staff)?

The lazy reporters also won't tell you that FDA gets its funding, not from HHS (which is its parent organization which did manage to pull off the rare feat of getting an appropriation), but from USDA's agricultural appropriation. They won't tell you about the National Weather Service which is under the unfunded Commerce Department and on and on...

The media spent the first week babbling out nonsense about "only 25% of the federal government is impacted" and then spent this second week pointing to trash at national parks, not taking into account what that "25%" meant - and notably because we are talking about everyone in all but 3 departments.

During the last shutdown in 2013, the GOP cherry-picked some funding for certain agencies as the shutdown dragged on to minimize the horrible optics. This time they are completely zombified.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:58 PM

9. So the $50 in food stamps I got for January is it?

No more until the shut down ends?

"Congress has not allocated funding for SNAP (food stamps) beyond January, and the program’s emergency reserves would not cover even two-thirds of February’s payments, according to past disbursements.

Last September, the most recent month for which data is available, SNAP disbursed $4.7 billion in benefits to recipients across every U.S. state."

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 5, 2019, 05:49 PM

12. I'm sorry to hear about your situation. It seems that's the case & where the domino effect starts.

Imagine the loss of income for the grocers too and other food providers, like small farmers markets that depend on the income, $4.7 billion in lost benefits leading to lost revenue and the dominoes fall. The breadth and ultimate reach of the suffering is astounding. Especially when I think about children who are already so food insecure they may now only have a school lunch be their only meal of the day.It makes me so sad. I hope you are able to find support in your community to meet your needs.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:10 PM

11. This

is probably the best reason I can think of to avoid overwitholding on Federal income tax, and even if you are eligible for the Earned Income Credit, this is a reason to file a piece of paper with your employer to get the credit in advance on your paycheck.

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