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highplainsdem

(48,957 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:10 AM Sep 2012

Romney: Voters can look to 'principles' for sense of how he'd govern

Source: NBC News

Mitt Romney argued Sunday that voters should have enough of a sense of his principles to have confidence in how he'd handle the nitty-gritty details of taxes, spending and health care as president.

-snip-

Romney's tax plan calls for making a 20 percent, across-the-board cut to marginal tax rates while keeping most existing taxes on investment the same (and cutting investment taxes altogether for households earning less than $200,000.) The former Massachusetts governor has argued that if "we limit or eliminate some of the loopholes and deductions at the high end," he could maintain current levels of tax revenue while also stimulating growth.

But, pressed for specifics, Romney resisted, and said his "principles" make up the details of his policy.

"The specifics are these, which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy," he said. "And I've indicated as well that — contrary to what the Democrats are saying — I'm not going to increase the tax burden on middle income families. It would absolutely be wrong to do that."

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Read more: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/09/13759896-romney-voters-can-look-to-principles-for-sense-of-how-hed-govern

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Romney: Voters can look to 'principles' for sense of how he'd govern (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
Is hiding your taxes a principle? C_U_L8R Sep 2012 #1
NOT ONE FACT CHECKER OR NEWS ORGANIZATION HAS SAID THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS LYING ABOUT MITTS TAX PLAN Heather MC Sep 2012 #2
It's all about the faith-based voting. Kurovski Sep 2012 #28
which principles? the governor of MA principles or the republican nominee for president principles? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2012 #3
He changes principles more often than I change underwear LynneSin Sep 2012 #15
Neither. The principles he ran his business by. jmowreader Sep 2012 #35
Indeed. That's why he will lose. Webster Green Sep 2012 #4
I would ask Willard HIS definition of 'middle income families' Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #5
'principles' R you kidding me? Botany Sep 2012 #6
+1000. Please folks, take the time to go to the above linked article, and pass it on. Kurovski Sep 2012 #30
"The specifics are these, which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy." Moosepoop Sep 2012 #7
It only makes sense.... ewagner Sep 2012 #17
Says the man with no firm principles. silverweb Sep 2012 #8
I understand his principles - TBF Sep 2012 #9
He has none besides whatever makes Mitt the most money. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #10
I always taught my boys to never lie riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #11
I think he said, "principals." sofa king Sep 2012 #12
Why would Americans want to buy something without knowing what they are getting riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #13
Only principles I need to know is how he laid off 100s of thousands of workers so he could profit LynneSin Sep 2012 #14
Proving once again that Mr Romney cannot open his mouth without lying. malthaussen Sep 2012 #16
Exactly: He'd lie, give money to the wealthy and do what the Koch bros tell him to do! socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #18
the same principles that allow mitt to gut businesses, fire employees, and steal their pensions iemitsu Sep 2012 #19
Yikes!!!! imanamerican63 Sep 2012 #20
etch a sketch principles? bluemarkers Sep 2012 #21
When you find some let me know. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #22
Governor, I'm sorry, I can't see Raven Sep 2012 #23
Under Romney's plan the middle class will not be paying higher taxes Turbineguy Sep 2012 #24
FLIP FLOP MITT THE TWIT ROBME AND PRINCIPLES???? This guy is a FUCKING JOKE ! RBInMaine Sep 2012 #25
Romney has principles? liberal N proud Sep 2012 #26
"Vote for me for more jobs, higher income, and lower taxes" high density Sep 2012 #27
worked for Reagan hollysmom Sep 2012 #29
His only principle is Money and how to acquire more of it. neverforget Sep 2012 #31
What's weird is that he NEVER brings up his governorship. tjdee Sep 2012 #32
Neutral think tank: Romney tax proposals will increase taxes on middle income families muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #33
Mitt's Favorite Things Texas-Limerick Sep 2012 #34
But, pressed for specifics, Romney resisted, and said his "principles" make up the details of his po KANTANA Sep 2012 #36
The only principle I'm sure Romney has is that he'll say anything to get elected. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #37
But WHERE are the tax returns, Mitt? susanna Sep 2012 #38
 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
2. NOT ONE FACT CHECKER OR NEWS ORGANIZATION HAS SAID THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS LYING ABOUT MITTS TAX PLAN
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:18 AM
Sep 2012

but how many have called Mittens out for lying all of them

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
28. It's all about the faith-based voting.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
Sep 2012

The facts are trying to mess with your god-given instincts, according to Romney.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. He changes principles more often than I change underwear
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:10 AM
Sep 2012

He's an idiot.

And for the record I change at least once a day!

Botany

(70,482 posts)
6. 'principles' R you kidding me?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt made his money screwing people ...... end of story.

Use leveraged money to buy a company for much less then it was worth,
load that company w/ massive debt that you have no intention of repaying,
charge that company large "management fees", outsource the work, loot the
pension funds, fire the workers & sell off the bones of the company, shift the
cost of the workers health insurance to the government, walk with millions
of $s, and then hid your money in overseas bank accounts.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
30. +1000. Please folks, take the time to go to the above linked article, and pass it on.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

Especially to your Republican/Independent family members!

The article is eye-opening. A wall street insider says that Romney's Bain work was actually a "bust-out", a mob technique for "making" money.

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
7. "The specifics are these, which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy."
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

That doesn't even make sense as a sentence. Sarah Palin would be proud.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
17. It only makes sense....
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
Sep 2012

if you are fluent in CEO-Speak.....

In CEO speak, you make broad, generalized pronouncements and tell your PEOPLE to figure out how to do it.

In other words, he won't have to do anything but PONTIFICATE from the Oval Office, (or, more likely from one of his vacation homes) and have his "people" do the dirty work.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
8. Says the man with no firm principles.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Wet a finger and hold it up to see which way the breeze is going. Throw a dart while blindfolded. Flip a coin. That's how "firm" Rmoney's "principles" are.

As another thread pointed out, his god is gold and his purpose is purely unenlightened self aggrandizement.

TBF

(32,032 posts)
9. I understand his principles -
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

more tax breaks for the rich, accelerated austerity for the poor, no rights for women. No thank you Sir Romney.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
10. He has none besides whatever makes Mitt the most money.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:52 AM
Sep 2012

If you've ever dealt with a businessman like Mitt, you soon find out that their words are meaningless, they don't even honor contracts they signed themselves.

"Well, see you in court!" they chuckle.

So I did.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
11. I always taught my boys to never lie
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:02 AM
Sep 2012

That was the most important. It seems Romney and Ryan really think it is okay to lie. That is very bad principals in my opinion.


I also taught them to share. They were helpful to the less fortunate and my younger son's favorite project was the homeless.

and to be respectful and to be world citizens, although we are all proud of being Canadian.

I remember visiting NJ relatives and my 10 year old asked where are all the people of color. He was used to being in a Toronto school filled with kids around the world.

And when he was a man and I moved into a neighborhood he thought was all white, he said the Why was was I moving into a "white bread" neighborhood. It turned out it wasn't. My street was a little UN.

I taught them it was okay to be dirty and disagree with courtesy. And they loved all kinds of foods and customs.

They didn't get a car when they were old enough to car, nor did I pay for their education. They worked for everything..



riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
13. Why would Americans want to buy something without knowing what they are getting
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sep 2012

Trust me, sounds like a used car salesman's pitch...or one of those preachers on TV.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. Only principles I need to know is how he laid off 100s of thousands of workers so he could profit
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012

That concept alone would have me voting for the other guy.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
16. Proving once again that Mr Romney cannot open his mouth without lying.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

He couldn't possibly want to be judged on his principles, since to do so would garner him zero votes.

-- Mal

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
18. Exactly: He'd lie, give money to the wealthy and do what the Koch bros tell him to do!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

Our country woud be run by the Koch brothers for the benefit of the corporations.

Talk about cornering the market!

The Koch brothers would have bouhgt the whole country!

That would end life as we used to know it!!!!

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
19. the same principles that allow mitt to gut businesses, fire employees, and steal their pensions
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:01 PM
Sep 2012

without remorse?
i'm not sure his principles are those a leader ought to embody.

imanamerican63

(13,763 posts)
20. Yikes!!!!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

He has no principles! He won't show the American people his taxes! You have principles when you tell the truth and have nothing to hide!!!!!!! This man only knows principle in terms of what has made off his riches!!!!

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
21. etch a sketch principles?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
Sep 2012

I guess we was telling the truth that day - 'cause he sure does like to shake that things and start over...

He's a classic flip flopper, the kind of wishy washy worm that gopers generally don't like. ?

I don't understand how anyone can vote for him!

high density

(13,397 posts)
27. "Vote for me for more jobs, higher income, and lower taxes"
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:12 PM
Sep 2012

These two morons Rmoney and Ryan have nothing to offer other than happy talk.

tjdee

(18,048 posts)
32. What's weird is that he NEVER brings up his governorship.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
Sep 2012

Relying on someone's "principles" seems so no-experience, so nowheresville....seems he should be going "As governor or Massachussetts..."


They are really acting totally idiotic this campaign cycle.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
33. Neutral think tank: Romney tax proposals will increase taxes on middle income families
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Sep 2012

Romney's campaign used to approve the think tank (until they pointed out what his tax policies would do - then they started calling them 'liberal'). See http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=223932

 

Texas-Limerick

(93 posts)
34. Mitt's Favorite Things
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:35 PM
Sep 2012

Corporate welfare  and outsourcing labor
Insider trading and slipping a Senator a favor
Large unmarked bills tied up in strings
These are a few of my favorite things
 
French  waiters bringing  a sorbet and soufflé
Room service in Paris and a squirt from  a bidet
Swiss bankers who treat us like kings 
These are a few of my favorite things

Privatizing the profits and socializing the losses
Layoffs for workers and bonuses for bosses
The release from liability that bankruptcy brings
Theses are a few of my favorite things

When a reporter questions
When they replay my old videos
When poor people vote
 I simply remember my favorite things
Then fight the urge to gloat



KANTANA

(32 posts)
36. But, pressed for specifics, Romney resisted, and said his "principles" make up the details of his po
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:01 AM
Sep 2012

Mittens, your "principles" make up for details in your policy? Hahahahaha Lol. Incredible!! I get it Willard, I just took a second look at a few of your "principles".................
1) Pathological lying
2) Say different things to different groups of people to make them happy.
3) Have no position on any issue, or have all positions.
4) Claim to love America but bet against the dollar and the economy.
5) Hide your money in foreign banks and tax heavens.
6) Avoid paying taxes by using every trick and loop hole in the book.
7) Always wear your magic underwear.
8) Refuse to make your taxes and finances known to the american people even though your
father taught you to be honest by releasing 12 years of his tax returns.
9) Misquote the President for political gains.
10) Say nothing about your record at Bain, Massachusett, or Salt Lake City winter olympics.
Mittens, these are not principles I will rely on for any details. Sorry!

susanna

(5,231 posts)
38. But WHERE are the tax returns, Mitt?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:33 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not stupid. I'd like to look them over. Since you're applying for a pretty big job and all...

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