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Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:03 AM

'All necessary means': Xi Jinping reserves right to use force against Taiwan

Source: The Guardian

Chinese leader calls for reunification and says independence would be a ‘disaster’

Taiwan’s unification with China is “inevitable”, President Xi Jinping said on Wednesday, warning against any efforts to promote the island’s independence and saying Beijing would not renounce the option of using military force to bring it into the fold.

Speaking at Beijing’s Great Hall of the People on the 40th anniversary of a key Taiwan policy statement, Xi said reunification must come under a one-China principle that accepts Taiwan as part of China, anathema to supporters of Taiwan independence.

All people in Taiwan must “clearly recognise that Taiwan independence would only bring profound disaster to Taiwan”, Xi said.

“We are willing to create broad space for peaceful reunification, but will leave no room for any form of separatist activities,” he said.

“We make no promise to renounce the use of force and reserve the option of taking all necessary means,” he said, adding that the issue is China’s internal affair and that it would permit “no external interferenc




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Hey Xi, how did that reunification thingy go with Hong Kong, you really are full of shit, in fact your fucking communist dictator, if you have looked lately, and better yet, you and your state of Communism, thinks that independent unions should be quashed right along with the Tibet's religion.

So the only thing I would worry about is your expansionist bull shit........... and hegemony................

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Reply 'All necessary means': Xi Jinping reserves right to use force against Taiwan (Original post)
turbinetree Jan 2019 OP
Nitram Jan 2019 #1
pangaia Jan 2019 #2
turbinetree Jan 2019 #4
pangaia Jan 2019 #5
turbinetree Jan 2019 #6
pangaia Jan 2019 #7
turbinetree Jan 2019 #8
pangaia Jan 2019 #9
turbinetree Jan 2019 #10
pangaia Jan 2019 #19
nycbos Jan 2019 #3
pangaia Jan 2019 #20
nycbos Jan 2019 #21
edhopper Jan 2019 #11
brush Jan 2019 #13
christx30 Jan 2019 #15
nycbos Jan 2019 #22
Calista241 Jan 2019 #12
ffr Jan 2019 #14
MicaelS Jan 2019 #25
Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #26
DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2019 #27
elmac Jan 2019 #16
EX500rider Jan 2019 #30
Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #17
Marcuse Jan 2019 #18
pangaia Jan 2019 #23
Marcuse Jan 2019 #24
Hekate Jan 2019 #28
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #29

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:39 AM

1. With Trump as president, this would be the perfect time for China to make a move on Taiwan and

Russia to make a move on Ukraine.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:39 AM

2. With the current American mis-admnistration, this concerns me.

"“After peaceful reunification, Taiwan will have lasting peace and the people will enjoy good and prosperous lives. With the great motherland’s support, Taiwan compatriots’ welfare will be even better, their development space will be even greater,” Xi said."


Hey, asshole, Taiwanese already have peace and good and prosperous lives. And their 'development' seems to be going just fine, thank you. So fuck off.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:53 AM

4. Just in your highlight everyone can read the communist propaganda bullshit,

"welfare will be even better", their development space will be even greater,” Xi said.".

If I remember correctly the poor out in the rural arras are getting fucked over big time.................they want communal burials for starters...................

https://www.economist.com/china/2018/09/27/officials-in-china-use-strong-arm-tactics-to-curb-burials


https://qz.com/1138395/low-end-population-what-you-need-to-know-about-chinas-crackdown-on-migrant-workers/

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:59 AM

5. I am not sure what you mean about the highlight...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:03 AM

6. On my screen I see the highlight bar around the section you wanted to have emphasis , looks

light blue sort of........................

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:07 AM

7. Yes, I know but what is wrong with my quoting the article and then

ridiculing Xi?


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Response to pangaia (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:09 AM

8. Nothing, I support your stance....................I did not mean to come across that way

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:10 AM

9. h. OK.. My midtskre...




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Response to pangaia (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:14 AM

10. Hey lets have a



I have a funny feeling that we are going to need a lot of them this year........................

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:14 PM

19. works for me



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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:53 AM

3. I been to Taiwan.

The people are quite proud of their democracy.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:15 PM

20. Yes, but there is a real split between those who want a totally separate country

and those who want 'China lite." So to speak.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:21 PM

21. No doubt.

But they enjoy their free elections.

I doubt they will accept Xi's "social credit" system..

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:15 AM

11. So Xi has something on Trump or Ivanka

or both.

Obviously feels he can do this without repercussions from the U.S.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:25 PM

13. trump will do nothing. He so busy tweeting about his wall he probably...

doesn't even know about Xi's statement.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:45 PM

15. As long as trump is still fighting for his

stupid-assed wall, the rest of the world can burn, for all he cares.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:22 PM

22. Yup

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:24 PM

12. If the Chinese really want Taiwan, there isn't much we can do about it.

They can invade and conquer the island in a long weekend, and it would take us several weeks to just get naval assets in place. The Taiwanese military can put up a fight, and perhaps kill some Chinese soldiers, but they can't contest the strategic certainty that China will win the engagement. By that time the shooting is already over, and they'll have an interim government in place swearing that everything is all hunky dory.

Hong Kong wasn't a nation state itself. It was a pseudo-independent colony of the UK, and the UK had a treaty obligation to turn the island over to China.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:36 PM

14. Nor would we, with our vacuum of leadership right now. We're without a functioning gov't.

It's run by a mob and McConnell is complicit to protect it at all costs.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:03 PM

25. Taiwan can win a war with the PRC.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-with-china/amp/

I would love to see Taiwan kick the PRC's ass.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:37 PM

26. You are dead wrong about that

Taiwan has more than two million soldiers in reserve, well equipped with modern weapons, aircraft, missiles, ships, armor, and artillery. Taiwan has mandatory military service for all males, which means almost the entire population knows how to fight.

China, on the other hand, has significant shortages in attack helicopters, drones, and amphibious landing craft, which makes an amphibious landing very difficult to achieve.

In 10 or 15 years, China may be able to successfully invade Taiwan, but it would be an unbelievably, bloody, protracted campaign with no guarantee of success.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:25 PM

27. China could bomb the hell out of Taiwan

But that's about it. The chinese military lacks the capability to land any significant number of troops on Taiwan, let alone on a contested beachhead. China lacks force projection capabilities, their military is largely untested, and their military leadership, from the company level on up, is full of incompetent officers who earned their positions through nepotism and bribery/political means instead of merit.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:52 PM

16. China will do what China wants, but they have patience

 

I don't see them going to war any time soon, they could crush Taiwan in other ways just like they could crush the US without even firing a shot. Our economy wholly depends on China, all the smart this and smart that are made in China, they could shut it all down in a heartbeat and they would last a hell of a lot longer then us in a commerce war. Not taking their side, just pointing out the fact that decades of losing jobs to them, decades of them buying our debt, decades of their cheap imports have given them the upper hand.

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Response to elmac (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:48 PM

30. I'd say you have that backwards, the Chinese economy relies on the US to buy their crap.

US imports from China $506 billion
China imports from US $130 billion

Their economy would be ruined without us, but we can do without their crap for awhile till we find other suppliers to take their place.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:57 PM

17. Both China and Taiwan agree there is only one China.

 

The only disagreement is which government should be the only government.

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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:15 PM

18. I remember the maps in geography class in the sixties. The PRC didn't exist.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:28 PM

23. The PRC was 'founded' October 1, 1949.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:45 PM

24. Not recognized in US textbooks. The ROC also had the China seats in the UN/ Security Council.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:01 AM

28. No better time than the present, with Trump as president

By the time the mad king leaves office, Uncle Sam's word will be worthless.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 05:35 PM

29. Taiwan wasn't a part of China originally

It was it's own kingdom along with several other islands.

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