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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:09 PM

Le Gaucher (1,547 posts)

Manafort's Lawyer Said to Brief Trump Attorneys on What He Told Mueller

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with Mr. Mueller’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said. Some legal experts speculated that it was a bid by Mr. Manafort for a presidential pardon even as he worked with the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, in hopes of a lighter sentence.

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Manafort's Lawyer Said to Brief Trump Attorneys on What He Told Mueller (Original post)	Le Gaucher	Nov 2018	OP
Definitely not lying to a federal investigator nor perjury...	RockRaven	Nov 2018	#1
Does this lawyer have a name? nt	Grasswire2	Nov 2018	#2
Kevin M. Downing	Le Gaucher	Nov 2018	#3
the updates assured Trumps legal team that Manafort had not implicated Trump!..	riversedge	Nov 2018	#4
Add "AG" Whitaker to the mix...	SergeStorms	Nov 2018	#17
That's just it, though	GusBob	Nov 2018	#18
This could blow up because Mueller's team obviously feels strongly that	Jarqui	Nov 2018	#5
This exactly. I can't imagine Mueller didn't have a contingency plan for this, and may have	Squinch	Nov 2018	#8
And there is real irony that actually makes me laugh	Jarqui	Nov 2018	#11
I don't think they felt like he was lieing to them	GusBob	Nov 2018	#19
From what I saw of the cases against Manafort	Jarqui	Nov 2018	#20
And the those compliant bastards with him!	Catamount	Nov 2018	#6
What a convenient channel for feeding misinfo back to the Orange One... nt	The_jackalope	Nov 2018	#7
How's that working out for 'ya Manafort? /nt	bitterross	Nov 2018	#9
I wonder who will be taking care of Manafort's family	redstatebluegirl	Nov 2018	#10
He is already broke...can't even afford his attorneys.	BigmanPigman	Nov 2018	#13
Maddow talks about this right now.	riversedge	Nov 2018	#12
A suggestion about the word "Collusion"	Perseus	Nov 2018	#14
The article states that no laws were broken	onenote	Nov 2018	#15
Well nothing to see here.	denbot	Nov 2018	#22
Wonder if the new AG Whitaker was involved??	bluestarone	Nov 2018	#16
I'm guessing Downey will be disbarred right?	lancelyons	Nov 2018	#21

Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:11 PM

RockRaven (12,379 posts)

1. Definitely not lying to a federal investigator nor perjury...

that's just for impeaching Democrats, obviously.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:11 PM

Grasswire2 (12,922 posts)

2. Does this lawyer have a name? nt

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:13 PM

Le Gaucher (1,547 posts)

3. Kevin M. Downing

In the article

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:18 PM

riversedge (65,449 posts)

4. the updates assured Trumps legal team that Manafort had not implicated Trump!..

How convenient for fat trump!

...........Mr. Downing did not respond to a request for comment. Though it was unclear how frequently he spoke to Mr. Trump’s lawyers or how much he revealed, his updates helped reassure Mr. Trump’s legal team that Mr. Manafort had not implicated the president in any possible wrongdoing..............

Link to tweet

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:30 PM

SergeStorms (18,185 posts)

17. Add "AG" Whitaker to the mix...

and TrumpCo. knows pretty much everything that's going on in the Mueller investigation.

It's freaking disgusting how cavalier these fascist bastards are with the rule of law. They honestly think they're above all rules and laws. Those are for the little people, the poor, the middle class, not "men of means" like themselves. If Americans would pay attention they'd never vote for another republican in their entire lives!

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Response to riversedge (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:32 PM

GusBob (7,234 posts)

18. That's just it, though

He was lieing to protect Trump. The FBI knew he was lieing and played along

Manafort ran back to tell Trump what lies he told the FBI (and presumably what lies they pretended to believe)

Trump repeated the lies in his written question proffer

It was a set up

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:23 PM

Jarqui (9,182 posts)

5. This could blow up because Mueller's team obviously feels strongly that

Manafort lied to them.

If Trump copied those lies in his written response, he's got a much bigger problem than he already had. Here's hoping that is what happened ..

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:25 PM

Squinch (47,353 posts)

8. This exactly. I can't imagine Mueller didn't have a contingency plan for this, and may have

set it up to use their own collusion in obstruction of justice against them.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:35 PM

Jarqui (9,182 posts)

11. And there is real irony that actually makes me laugh

Giuliani and Trump have always complained about a perjury trap which they describe as one person saying something different than Trump and using that against him to nail him for perjury. (Ignoring that if you get two different stories about the same thing, only one can be truthful ...)

Trump has also maintained like a broken record "no collusion"

But here, Trump appears to be colluding with Manafort on a tale to tell Mueller - where they may well both say the same thing to support each other and try to throw Mueller off ... which Mueller knows is a lie and can prove it.

If it turns out that way, Trump is fucked ... by collusion to lie.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:40 PM

GusBob (7,234 posts)

19. I don't think they felt like he was lieing to them

They knew he was lieing. Which means they have proof

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Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:06 AM

Jarqui (9,182 posts)

20. From what I saw of the cases against Manafort

the vast documentation, extensive depth of details and witnesses to back them up, etc, I have little doubt they have proof.

i'm left wondering if they realized it and were playing Trump and Manafort. If I had to bet on it, that is how I would bet.

Trump & Giuliani feared discrepancy in testimony could be used against them to get Trump on perjury. So they stupidly collude with Manafort to avoid that (based on Manafort's lies) ... only to arrive at a likely perjury charge.

It is almost poetic if that is what has just gone down.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:23 PM

Catamount (1,762 posts)

6. And the those compliant bastards with him!

K&R

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:25 PM

The_jackalope (1,660 posts)

7. What a convenient channel for feeding misinfo back to the Orange One... nt

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:26 PM

bitterross (4,066 posts)

9. How's that working out for 'ya Manafort? /nt

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:30 PM

redstatebluegirl (12,157 posts)

10. I wonder who will be taking care of Manafort's family

while he is in jail. My guess is Trump, or another GOP donor just like the mafia.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:47 PM

BigmanPigman (48,833 posts)

13. He is already broke...can't even afford his attorneys.

I hope he rots in jail! His family (his daughters) already told him that they are super pissed off at him and almost need their relationship with dear ol dad, that is when he supposedly flipped.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:36 PM

riversedge (65,449 posts)

12. Maddow talks about this right now.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:52 PM

Perseus (4,341 posts)

14. A suggestion about the word "Collusion"

DU should ban the word collusion, collusion is the preferred word by repubs because they think it diverts people's minds from the real crime, which is "CONSPIRACY". From now on everyone should be talking about their conspiracies with the Russians, themselves, etc.

Just a suggestion...I feel that one change will drive them mad.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:03 PM

onenote (39,442 posts)

15. The article states that no laws were broken

It was reported some time ago that there was a joint defense agreement that allows the Trump and Manafort attorneys to share information.

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Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:28 AM

denbot (9,859 posts)

22. Well nothing to see here.

Thanks for saving Shitler precious reputation.

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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:14 PM

bluestarone (14,730 posts)

16. Wonder if the new AG Whitaker was involved??

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Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:50 AM

lancelyons (988 posts)

21. I'm guessing Downey will be disbarred right?

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