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Jose Garcia

(2,552 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:05 PM Nov 2018

Broward volunteers finish manual recount of Senate race at lightning speed

Source: The Miami Herald

Even with a late start to the morning, volunteers for Broward County finished the manual recount for the U.S. senate race Friday in under two hours — before the catered lunch even arrived.

Broward County Canvassing Board Attorney René Harrod announced the volunteers were done for the day at 10 a.m. Many will return Saturday to count the Agricultural Commission race and Sunday to count a local commission race.

While officials have given no official count or estimate on the number of under and over votes counted Friday, numbers reported to the state indicate there were about 32,000 in Broward.

Broward County’s lightning speed on counting the vote appears to be due to the hundreds of volunteers at work, as well as a large amount of undervotes — votes for neither senate candidate.

Read more: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article221762800.html

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Broward volunteers finish manual recount of Senate race at lightning speed (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2018 OP
Proves that paper ballots are the fair & efficient method of voting Bfd Nov 2018 #1
always was. in 2000 they used the chads situation to push for electronic voting machines and certainot Nov 2018 #7
That's how Canada does it. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #15
In most Canadian elections, there is only one question on a ballot. OnlinePoker Nov 2018 #17
People aren't inept. Even if the gop say we all are under a million+ threshold Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #2
Sounds like many voters just skipped the Senate race MichMan Nov 2018 #3
Not good news for us. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #4
Sounds like it BUT bluestarone Nov 2018 #11
Bit only in blue Broward County. mahina Nov 2018 #14
hand recount ahead may be errors. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #27
Senate Race was buried in bottom left corner beneath instructions. Cetacea Nov 2018 #5
Fail in design and likely intentional. How did that ever pass. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #6
Ask Brenda Snipes? MichMan Nov 2018 #8
CNN asked about that, she said it was ok. Pffft.. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #9
Almost as surprising as a knee-jerk defense... LanternWaste Nov 2018 #12
I don't accuse people on our side of intentionally subverting elections to help RW win. MichMan Nov 2018 #21
She was appointed by Jeb Bush, NOT elected (initially). Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2018 #18
How many times has she been re elected? MichMan Nov 2018 #20
Go figure, people voting against their best interests. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2018 #24
It's a lousy design flaw, however it happened. I didn't accuse her, appalachiablue Nov 2018 #22
Well you did say it was likely intentional MichMan Nov 2018 #23
It wouldn't just be her fault FBaggins Nov 2018 #26
+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #10
A design like that is a major fail in ballot designing. LenaBaby61 Nov 2018 #13
Bad ballot design led to a lot of undervotes for Nelson in Broward, possibly costing him his seat. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #16
Of course Scott now wants the recounted numbers OnlinePoker Nov 2018 #19
Brenda Snipes incompetence required her immediate resignation. The ballot design, late number Pisces Nov 2018 #25
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
7. always was. in 2000 they used the chads situation to push for electronic voting machines and
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:49 PM
Nov 2018

of course republicans made those......

1500 radio stations screamed about human (dem) inefficiency and corruption, hanging chads and bullshat about how inefficient and fraud prone they were ('democrat' operatives stealing elections, etc), how bad the old machines were, and how new electronic machines would be cheaper and safer and more accurate. that morphed into blaming dems for using 'illegal' immigrants to vote dem to pass their voter suppression legislation, and now they're screaming about dems stealing more elections again.

another great success for the invisible talk radio megaphone

15. That's how Canada does it.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:30 PM
Nov 2018

OTTAWA — As the potential for cyberattacks to undermine the democratic process becomes alarmingly clear, Canadians can take some comfort in the fact that national elections in this country are still conducted the old-fashioned way.

Canada is not immune to cybermischief aimed at suppressing the number of people who vote or manipulating how they vote. But once ballots are cast, not even the most sophisticated cyberattack could tamper with the results.

That’s because Canada still relies on paper ballots, hand-marked by voters and hand-counted by officials in some 25,000 different polling stations across the country, under the watchful eye of scrutineers from each of the major political parties.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/paper-ballots-protect-against-hacks-but-other-election-cyberthreats-loom

Without electronics, whatever will Steve Kornacki do?

OnlinePoker

(5,702 posts)
17. In most Canadian elections, there is only one question on a ballot.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

From my understanding of U.S. elections, there could be State Reps, Congressional Reps, Governors, Senators, Judges, DAs, Presidents, Propositions, etc. Hand counting all of these from one ballot sheet would be a nightmare.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
2. People aren't inept. Even if the gop say we all are under a million+ threshold
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:14 PM
Nov 2018

in earnings per year. Poll workers are some wonderful people. They 'carry the mail', and count the votes for all of us. Year after year. Id like to see more citizens getting medals. ALOT more citizens getting medals.
Firefighters in CA would be good candidates. We need a new category of medal...a medal for the rest of us.

bluestarone

(16,723 posts)
11. Sounds like it BUT
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:09 PM
Nov 2018

How the hell can DEMS. NOT know what's The most IMPORTANT part of voting????? THIS is BEYOND crazy in my mind!!!!!

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
5. Senate Race was buried in bottom left corner beneath instructions.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:26 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)

A design like that is a major fail in ballot designing. But the GOP election machine will likely remain for for more years.

MichMan

(11,790 posts)
8. Ask Brenda Snipes?
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:53 PM
Nov 2018

It was her responsibility. Surprised you would accuse an elected Democrat and POC of intentionally sabotaging Bill Nelson.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Almost as surprising as a knee-jerk defense...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:10 PM
Nov 2018

As if people believe that merely having a (D) automatically denies anything other than righteous intent.

No... not surprising at all.

MichMan

(11,790 posts)
21. I don't accuse people on our side of intentionally subverting elections to help RW win.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:00 PM
Nov 2018

Brenda Snipes can be blamed for poor judgement and perhaps lack of competence, but to accuse her of intentionally sabotaging Bill Nelson's Senate race with the ballot design is out of line.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
24. Go figure, people voting against their best interests.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 11:53 AM
Nov 2018

She’s a lousy SoE and needs to be removed. Incompetence should not be rewarded, regardless of what letter follows their name.

appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
22. It's a lousy design flaw, however it happened. I didn't accuse her,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:24 PM
Nov 2018

even know who she is, or that she designed the ballot or had any oversight until you said, 'ask Brenda Snipes.' And as I wrote, I recall her being asked about it in general by the media and that's all.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
26. It wouldn't just be her fault
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:30 PM
Nov 2018

The campaigns have an opportunity to see the ballot design well in advance and could have protested.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
13. A design like that is a major fail in ballot designing.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:17 PM
Nov 2018

It sure is.

A friend lives in Florida, and he told me that the ballot was a piece of shit designed ballot, and that was even before this latest kerfuffel went down. I our new, larger postage-paid paper ballots here in California. You don't have to go searching for major office holders, ballot initiatives, judges or local races/ballot initiatives because every 'like thing' is on the same page TOGETHER, and the type on the pages is LARGE so you can SEE who/what you're voting for. But then again, this is a Navy Blue state, and while we're not perfect, we've pretty much done away with those racist, vile, cheating, treasonous thuglicans here in California

Poor Florida. Stuck with a should be in jail Senator and a DeRacist Governor who are going to continue running that state into the ground until Dem leadership takes over, and that will ONLY come via voting but the vote there is rigged in various ways starting with a crazy-designed ballot

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,908 posts)
16. Bad ballot design led to a lot of undervotes for Nelson in Broward, possibly costing him his seat.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:39 PM
Nov 2018
Dave Weigel Retweeted

Bad ballot design led to a lot of undervotes for Bill Nelson in Broward Co., possibly even enough to cost him his Senate seat. They do appear to be real undervotes, though, instead of tabulation errors. He doesn't really seem to have a path to victory.


OnlinePoker

(5,702 posts)
19. Of course Scott now wants the recounted numbers
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:25 PM
Nov 2018

It padded his totals by 700 votes. I thought, according to his team, these recounts were the Democrats trying to steal the election.

Pisces

(5,592 posts)
25. Brenda Snipes incompetence required her immediate resignation. The ballot design, late number
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:05 PM
Nov 2018

Posting, plus past inadequacies call for her immediate removal. I do not understand how that ballot design was approved. She is either incompetent or working for Republicans. Both will require her resignation.

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