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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:31 AM

Active shooter and multiple victims reported at Thousand Oaks bar

Source: Los Angeles Times

By JAMES QUEALLY , RICHARD WINTON , ALENE TCHEKMEDYIAN and SEAN GREENE
NOV 08, 2018 12:15 AM

Police were responding to reports of a mass shooting that left several people injured and may have led to casualties Wednesday night inside a Thousand Oaks bar.
Emergency crews were responding to an "active shooter" inside the Borderline Bar & Grill, according to a tweet from the Ventura County Fire Department.

One law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Times that at least 30 shots had been fired and that there are casualties.

According to witnesses at the scene, someone ran into the bar around 11:30 p.m. and started firing what appeared to be a black pistol.
"He shot a lot, at least 30 times. I could still hear gunshots after everyone left," said the person, who did not give a name.


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-thousand-oaks-20181107-story.html

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Chicago1980 Thursday OP
nitpicker Thursday #1
Judi Lynn Thursday #2
nitpicker Thursday #3
joshcryer Thursday #4
RhodeIslandOne Thursday #5
joshcryer Thursday #6
Cetacea Thursday #14
Merlot Thursday #37
BumRushDaShow Thursday #7
SleeplessinSoCal Thursday #8
joshcryer Thursday #9
SleeplessinSoCal Thursday #45
Silver Gaia Thursday #10
nitpicker Thursday #11
The King of Prussia Thursday #12
NutmegYankee Thursday #17
whathehell Thursday #18
The King of Prussia Thursday #38
whathehell Friday #48
LibDemAlways Thursday #13
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Silver Gaia Thursday #16
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NutmegYankee Thursday #25
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Archae Thursday #21
milestogo Thursday #22
Zing Zing Zingbah Thursday #23
Botany Thursday #24
Progressive Jones Friday #46
Richard D Thursday #26
Blue_Tires Thursday #27
Progressive Jones Friday #47
exboyfil Thursday #28
FSogol Thursday #29
exboyfil Thursday #31
Roland99 Thursday #33
JudyM Thursday #30
exboyfil Thursday #34
JudyM Thursday #35
CountAllVotes Thursday #32
Retrograde Thursday #41
Politicub Thursday #36
RussBLib Thursday #39
BeyondGeography Thursday #40
Akacia Thursday #43
BeyondGeography Thursday #44
nitpicker Thursday #42


Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:22 AM

2. Huffington Post:Mass Shooting Reported At Borderline Bar & Grill In Thousand Oaks, California

Just heard on MSNBC from a cop that there are casualties, and multiple dead...

Also said there were several hundred inside at the time of the shootings.



U.S. NEWS 11/08/2018 03:10 am ET Updated 24 minutes ago

At least one gunman opened fire at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks on Wednesday night, according to local reports.
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By Dominique Mosbergen
Multiple people were reportedly injured after at least one gunman opened fire at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California, late Wednesday.

Police officers were called to Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks at around 11:20 p.m., The Ventura County Star reported. Officers at the scene told the newspaper that about 30 shots had been fired. At least four ambulances were called to the area to treat victims.

The Ventura County Fire Department confirmed just after midnight that there had been reports of “multiple injuries” at the bar.

“Please stay away from area,” the department urged in a tweet.

More:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thousand-oaks-bar-shooting_us_5be3ea98e4b0769d24c93ee0

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Newsweek:

THOUSAND OAKS MASS SHOOTING LIVE UPDATES: LATEST FROM BORDERLINE BAR AND GRILL ATTACK IN CALIFORNIA
BY EWAN PALMER ON 11/8/18 AT 2:56 AM

03:55

More from eyewitness John Hedge, who was inside the bar at thee time of the shooting.

"I was at the front door and I was talking to my stepdad. I just started hearing these big pops, pop, pop, pop,” Hedge told ABC7 Eyewitness News.

“There was probably three or four, I hit the ground. I look up—the security guard is dead…well, I don't want to say he was dead, but he was shot. He was down.

“The gunman was throwing smoke grenades all over the place. I saw him point to the back of the cash register...and he just kept firing. I ran out the front door.”

More:
https://www.newsweek.com/thousand-oaks-mass-shooting-latest-borderline-bar-and-grill-attack-california-1206448

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Mass shooting at Southern California bar

Associated Press
3:34 AM, Nov 8, 2018
1 min ago

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. (AP) — Authorities say at least six people were shot — including a deputy — late Wednesday when a suspect opened fire in a crowded Southern California bar.

Police tell the Ventura County Star that the initial report came around 11:20 p.m. that a man opened fire at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, which is about 40 miles west of Los Angeles.

The extent of the victims’ injuries is not immediately known.

Ventura County Sheriff’s Office Capt. Garo Kuredjian said late Wednesday that it is still “a very active scene.”

More:
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/mass-shooting-at-southern-california-bar?autoplay=true






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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:28 AM

4. The bar has a country theme to it.

"Freedom fries" are an actual menu item.

This may be a left leaning attacker. Be prepared.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:37 AM

5. It may also be a patron expressing his "freedom"

Maybe the theme wasn’t “real” enough for him.

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:46 AM

6. The more I'm digging I'm thinking right leaning incel enacting revenge.

Will have to wait until it plays out but details are white, bearded male with trenchcost and glasses. The first person he executed was the cute hostess and then went on random people.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:35 AM

37. Because freedom frys on are the menu you draw that conclusion?

How many left leaning suspects have there been in mass shootings so far?

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:18 AM

7. Just heard a local breaking news with a CBS reporting that there are fatalities

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:22 AM

8. local coverage includes accounts of many students.

College Night and Line Dancing. One guy with a hand gun dressed in black. Many differing accounts of his status and his weapon(s). Smoke bombs apparently. The police spokesperson wasn't aware after over an hour.

People/media ready to heap praise on police response. I beg to differ.

Oddly, several of the college dancing guys seemed to have lost their shirts. I counted 3 without them.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:36 AM

9. Apparently they were grabbing injured people so probably used shirts to wipe off blood.

Or tourniquet / gauze pack. Lot of heroes here. They busted a window very quickly and people escaped right away. Quick thinking by those guys, saved like 30 people.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:29 PM

45. my sister thought they used shirts to cover hands while breaking windows.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:40 AM

10. MSNBC is covering this. There's going to be a press conference

in about 15 minutes.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:40 AM

11. Now a live update thread from The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/thousand-oaks-shooting-live-updates-today-california-borderline-bar-grills-victims-injuries-police-a8623381.html

((Carrying live video of KABC-7 TV))

Several people have been killed and around a dozen others injured in a shooting at a bar hosting an event for college students in California.

A gunman reportedly used smoke grenades before firing into a crowd of around 200 people at the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, 40 miles northwest of Los Angeles, at 11.20pm local time.

“There are multiple fatalities,” said Eric Buschow of Ventura County Sheriff’s Office, without giving a specific number. Authorities confirmed a police officer was among the 11 injured.

The suspect, described as a bearded man wearing a black trench coat and mask covering his face, was confirmed dead after being “engaged and neutralised” by police, Andrew Fox, mayor of Thousand Oaks, said.
(snip)

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:41 AM

12. In England

Anyone who is shot is a casualty. Seems like only death qualifies you to be a casualty in the US.
"a mass shooting that left several people injured and may have led to casualties "
You're in a terrible mess friends.

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Response to The King of Prussia (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:12 AM

17. The military uses the British definition.

But civilian USA has modified its usage (unofficially) to mean fatality.

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Response to The King of Prussia (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:14 AM

18. Semantics

are not the major concern here, friend.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:31 PM

38. I was drawing attention to the fact that you are inured to gun violence in a way that we are not.

So not semantics.

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Response to The King of Prussia (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:25 PM

48. I understand that was your intent.. The problem is

you used a poor argument to do it. It's like someone arguing the shape of spoons to call attention to the need for a fork.

Add that to the fact that your entire premise is false*, and the result is an ill-conceived post.

* There is no evidence that Anericans are "more inured" to gun violence than other people. The debate centers on what to do about it and that debate is raging.


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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:45 AM

13. I live in the area. There is only

one hospital close by. Its emergency room is understaffed and its general reputation is meh. It is in the suburbs and not the type of place that sees a lot of gunshot victims, certainly not late on a weeknight. Years ago the corporate owners bought the only other area hospital and promptly shut it down. I would like to think the quality of care and the ability to save the lives of multiple victims in an event such as this wasn't compromised as a result, but I know better.

When local residents wake up to this news in a few hours, they are going to be very shaken. We can't, however, do anything about gun violence anywhere until we get serious about guns, even here in California with some of the strictest gun laws already on the books. No place is immune, and it appears, thanks in no small part to the NRA and the gun lobby that we are all potential targets in a vast shooting gallery called the USA.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:07 AM

15. 12 Fatalaties n/t

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:10 AM

16. 12 victims killed, one of them a deputy

The crowd looks like just a bunch of college kids. The look stunned.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:17 AM

19. 10 or 15 wounded

Some say the shooter was using a hand gun. They said he reloaded several times. Another witness, ex-military, just now said it was a semiautomatic weapon. I guess we'll find out.

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Response to Silver Gaia (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:54 AM

25. Most handguns are semi automatic.

Revolvers are no longer that common.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:39 AM

20. Prayers for The Victims...

And says plenty of the unraveling state of our Nation under the Lying and Utterly Corrupt Drump Administration.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:32 AM

21. When will the madness end?

When the last human dies.

Yes, I am a realist, I know damn well that even if guns are absolutely outlawed, nutcases like this and criminals will get them or make them.

Don't forget all the other objects that can kill, knives, hammers, poison, etc.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:18 AM

22. Just another day in gunslinging America.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:36 AM

23. Right, seems like people are barely talking about this. n/t

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:44 AM

24. Let me guess the shooter ...

... was a frustrated right wing white male

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Response to Botany (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:21 AM

46. Ex Marine with documented mental problems. nt

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:02 AM

26. Horrible

And very close to home.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:04 AM

27. Dana Loesch's nipples are hardening right about now...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:21 AM

47. I hate that skank. nt

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:23 AM

28. WSJ identified shooter as Ian Long

"Suspected California bar shooter identified as Ian Long, a law enforcement official says"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/multiple-injuries-reported-in-bar-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-california-1541666907?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:04 AM

29. 29-year old male, drove his mother's car to the shooting. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:11 AM

31. Did he live in her basement?

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:04 AM

30. Glock handgun with 11 rounds plus extended magazine, according to Sheriff just now.

Legally purchased.
Veteran. Believed to have shot himself.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:14 AM

34. So work through Trump's scenario

1. If bouncer was armed, he would have been shot first anyway without an opportunity to react. Note the two LEOs who bravely went in were shot at and one was killed even after they knew they were dealing with an active shooter situation.

2. Offender kills himself so that takes the death penalty off the table. Seems he is saying he would rather die anyway.

Semiauto with extended magazine again.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:24 AM

35. Apparently mental health experts had cleared him but he may have had PTSD, acc. to CNN.

We need some higher standard for gun ownership.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:13 AM

32. One of the men on the scene was wearing a ...

Reagan/Bush t-shirt.

What else do we need to know?





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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:47 PM

41. Doesn't matter, he still doesn't deserve to be shot

He may be an idiot, or terminally clueless (or worse, a hipster wearing the shirt ironically): he still has the right to go to a bar without being shot.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:24 AM

36. Ian David Long - the shooter's name

According to CNN.

He was a 28 year old Marine veteran.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:54 PM

39. Soldiers are gunning us down

White, ex-military, another domestic terrorist.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:30 PM

40. One victim's father

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #40)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:22 PM

43. So heartbreaking!

Oh my, I feel so sad for this man.

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Response to Akacia (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:28 PM

44. Me too

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