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Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:19 AM

PQ (Parti Quebecois) returns to power in Quebec

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Source: The Province

The Parti Quebecois is celebrating a return to power after nine years in opposition but its parade has been dampened by a weaker-than-desired result that could severely limit its ability to pursue its independence agenda and the premier appeared to be on the verge of losing his seat.

One factor could help resurrect the independence program: it was unclear whether the final seat numbers would ultimately leave another pro-independence party, the smaller and more left-wing Quebec solidaire, with the balance of power.

The PQ won or was leading in about 57 ridings in Tuesday's election, shy of the 63 needed for a majority in the 125-seat legislature. Quebec solidaire won two seats.

Barring a late surprise the PQ could now face an awkward balancing act - pleasing its ardently pro-independence base, while getting parliamentary backing from other parties.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/returns+power+Quebec/7191494/story.html



Unfortunately a shooting marred the victory celebration of the PQ.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html

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pampango Sep 2012 OP
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #1
earthbone Sep 2012 #3
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #4
earthbone Sep 2012 #6
earthbone Sep 2012 #9
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #10
Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 #2
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #5
Posteritatis Sep 2012 #7
Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #8
Tx4obama Sep 2012 #11

Response to pampango (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:45 AM

1. Sheeze!!!

 



Having lived in Michigan I know the opposition to independence is filled with radicals.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:43 AM

3. What ?

How did you come up with that ?Its the other way around.Get your facts right before you shot your mouth off.

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Response to earthbone (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:06 PM

4. The gunman was heard saying "The English are waking up" as he was hauled away.

 

It's not the first time there has been political violence in Quebec. In the 1970s Canadian soldiers were deployed because of a spate of terrorism by a group demanding independence from Canada. In 1970, the militant FLQ demanded "total independence" from Canada. Its members kidnapped and killed Quebec's labor minister and later abducted, then freed, a British diplomat.

The subsequent "October Crisis" was considered one of the darkest periods in modern Canadian history. Canadian troops patrolled the streets of Quebec and jailed alleged FLQ sympathizers, most of whom were later found innocent of having any FLQ ties.

http://news.yahoo.com/gunman-kills-1-rally-quebec-premier-060908664.html


It's called a crackdown and there was a lot of abuse heaped on those even SUGGESTING independence.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:24 PM

9. Correct.

There are militant groups in Quebec that are pro separation[RRQ] but there are no militant anglo groups in Quebec.We are content to live with bill 101 as it is now.We are not going to let Quebec leave Canada with its present borders.Quebec will be sliced up until its about the size of NewJersey if they vote for separation which wont happen anyway,Marios does not have the mandate or a majority to make it happen.
The FLQ killed more then one person,eight people died at the hands of the FLQ so the so called abuse heaped upon them was well deserved.They were allowed to flee Canada to Cuba and then later on allowed to return .They pretty much got away with all the bombings [the put bombs in mail boxes and killed a policemen].
could not edit my last post properly,that was the reason for the delete.

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Response to earthbone (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 06:29 PM

10. I feel the response to the FLQ was an excuse to crack down on all French speaking people...

 

...in Canada by a hard Right Wing who tried to link Trudeau to the FLQ and as a result he cracked down on them harder than necessary to prove he wasn't part of their movement.

And let's face it. The FLQ in it's rampant Nationalism was a Right Wing faction at war with the Right Wing faction within the Canadian government. I wish all of these people would just let us humans live in peace on this planet but that ain't gonna happen any time soon. Not as long as we aren't a homogenous mass that looks and sounds identical.

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Response to pampango (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:14 AM

2. This election says less about the PQ

 

than it does about the continuing total collapse of the Grits across Canada.

The PQ has the most seats, but had a -3% swing. The Liberal Party lost twice as many seats as the PQ gained and had a -10% swing. The center-of-the-road Coalition got a +10% swing (almost a complete mirror image of what the Liberals lost) and gained more seats than the PQ.

Basically, the PQ can't pursue independence simply because it has no mandate. This was not an increase of support for the PQ, it was a massive loss of support for the Liberal Party.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:12 PM

5. I never favored the idea of a split because I don't like nationalism...

 

...it only serves those who wish to divide humanity.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:42 PM

7. The Liberals' position (such as it is) these days really is astonishing

Ten, twenty years ago, something like the current landscape would be completely inconceivable. It's not quite what happened to the Tories after Mulroney and Campbell, but still.

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Response to pampango (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 01:13 PM

8. Questions swirl over how close shooter got to Pauline Marois

MONTREAL—His name is Richard Henry Bain. His age is 62. He runs a fishing lodge near Mont Tremblant.

But those are the only answers to the mounting questions surrounding the fatal shooting that marred Tuesday night’s Parti Québécois election victory.

Montreal Police, in concert with the Sûrete du Quebec, the force charged with protecting Quebec Premier-elect Pauline Marois, have opened a vast investigation into the shooting that killed one, injured a second and sent a third to hospital in a state of shock.

The images are disturbing. The shooter was wearing a black balaclava and eyeglasses, a black shirt and shorts covered by a blue bathrobe. Police say the suspect has been taken to hospital for unspecified treatment.

Definitely vexed, possibly deranged, the man was quickly wrestled to the ground by uniformed officers and led away in handcuffs, while shouting, “The English are rising up.”

Based on the limited information that has emerged and the circumstances, one can reasonably conclude that a political assassination was narrowly averted.

But how did the shooter get so close?

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1251568--questions-swirl-over-how-close-shooter-got-to-pauline-marois

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1251543--suspect-in-quebec-shooting-identified

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Response to pampango (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:10 AM

11. Locking. LBN Dupe. Please continue discussion on link below

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