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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 03:06 AM Oct 2018

Gabbard considering 2020 run: report

Source: The Hill

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) is reportedly considering entering a likely crowded field of Democratic candidates for the party's 2020 presidential nomination.

Politico reports that Gabbard adviser Rania Batrice is reaching out to speechwriters and digital campaign staff with no explicit mention of a 2020 run, but with such a time frame heavily implied.

No staffing additions have been made yet, but several potential staffers have been contacted, according to the report.

Batrice reportedly did not dispute that the progressive Hawaii lawmaker is mulling a 2020 bid, but cautioned that Gabbard is currently focused on her reelection campaign.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412383-gabbard-considering-2020-run-report



I seriously dispute The Hill's premise that she's "progressive," as Steve Bannon adores her
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Gabbard considering 2020 run: report (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 OP
She did nominate Bernie Sanders at the 2016 Democratic Convention oberliner Oct 2018 #1
the same crowd who booed John Lewis and heckled Clinton as the nominee? Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #41
No. mahina Oct 2018 #54
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #2
Lots of us in her district agree. She's silent on so many key issues. mahina Oct 2018 #6
She is only progressive if you consider her record. irresistable Oct 2018 #3
Please elaborate. mahina Oct 2018 #55
Well, to simplify....is there a position or vote of hers since coming to Congress.... irresistable Oct 2018 #58
"Reportedly considering" another bullshit worthless speculation from The Hill still_one Oct 2018 #4
believe it. We in her district expected it. She does not hold Democratic values but is a master of. mahina Oct 2018 #7
see is a hell of a lot more specific than centrists who mouth platitudes yurbud Oct 2018 #15
Believe it or not Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2018 #5
Puuuulllleeeezzzzz..... AZ8theist Oct 2018 #8
How do you define "progressive"? Someone whose progressively better qualified yurbud Oct 2018 #14
Assad cheers Haynx Oct 2018 #9
so...you're looking for a warmonger who destroys countries that are no threat to us yurbud Oct 2018 #12
She denied Assad was behind the chemical attack Haynx Oct 2018 #18
it was a weird move to make for someone who was otherwise winning. yurbud Oct 2018 #19
Isn't it nice of our enemies to do the stupidest thing possible when we're looking for yurbud Oct 2018 #21
this is like trump is doing with saudi arabia. one can admit something happened without supporting JI7 Oct 2018 #27
in the case of the chemical weapons attack, the evidence didn't warrant an immediate judgment yurbud Oct 2018 #34
terrorists beheading people is not an excuse to defend and protect assads chemical attacks JI7 Oct 2018 #35
I meant those guys were as likely to use unconventional weapons, but you probably knew that yurbud Oct 2018 #37
assad did use it and it's fucked up to deny it. just like with trump and saudis JI7 Oct 2018 #38
It's bizarre to see alleged progressives defending asad. BannonsLiver Oct 2018 #45
Did she eventually admit he did it? Haynx Oct 2018 #43
she is a warmonger also that wants to be tougher on islam JI7 Oct 2018 #22
So you're saying centrist Dems like her? yurbud Oct 2018 #24
im sure many do JI7 Oct 2018 #25
+1 mahina Oct 2018 #51
She's very popular with the right wing National Review and disruptors on DU tenderfoot Oct 2018 #10
Do you think trading places with the GOP on warmongering is a winning strategy? yurbud Oct 2018 #13
+1 mahina Oct 2018 #52
Gabbard is a right wing libertarian plant tenderfoot Oct 2018 #11
centrists Democrats cut Republicans a lot of slack when there's a war to be started, yurbud Oct 2018 #16
I understand the Koch Brothers like right wing libertarian trolls like Gabbard tenderfoot Oct 2018 #17
gabbard is a centrist democrat who supports war on muslim extremists JI7 Oct 2018 #20
her position has evolved over time based on experience & new info... yurbud Oct 2018 #23
lol JI7 Oct 2018 #26
It's glaringly obvious that she's a DINO...always on FOX bashing Dems. She has no chance. brush Oct 2018 #28
There are some here who feel seem to feel the need to flame bait, and in not so subtle ways take still_one Oct 2018 #30
What is she bashing them for? yurbud Oct 2018 #33
with roots in homophobic activism Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #42
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #46
Or a Trojan horse, or at least someone adept at using our mental shortcuts to get a pass from enough mahina Oct 2018 #53
YUCK lunamagica Oct 2018 #29
Double YUCK! Cha Oct 2018 #31
CHA! lunamagica Oct 2018 #39
Aloha! Cha Oct 2018 #40
Yeah, why does Steve Bannon like Gabbard Cha Oct 2018 #32
Anti-interventionalism oberliner Oct 2018 #44
He knows he is radioactive sludge agincourt Oct 2018 #48
Bannon set up Trump-Gabbard meeting Cha Oct 2018 #49
I'm considering becoming a race car driver. GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #36
I'd love to see her run BannonsLiver Oct 2018 #47
You can bet money on who here will be giddy n/m RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #50
In Turn, Millions of Democrats Are Considering Not Voting For Her DarthDem Oct 2018 #56
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #57
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. She did nominate Bernie Sanders at the 2016 Democratic Convention
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 07:19 AM
Oct 2018

To thunderous applause from the crowd.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
41. the same crowd who booed John Lewis and heckled Clinton as the nominee?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 03:02 AM
Oct 2018

Anyone who is revered by the "Bust" delegates is questionable as a progressive

mahina

(17,640 posts)
54. No.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 04:29 AM
Oct 2018

I love John Lewis with my whole heart and worked my tail off for Hillary.

Once we had a nominee, I put the primary aside.

You should try it!

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
58. Well, to simplify....is there a position or vote of hers since coming to Congress....
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:33 AM
Oct 2018

that you feel is not progressive?

mahina

(17,640 posts)
7. believe it. We in her district expected it. She does not hold Democratic values but is a master of.
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 12:16 PM
Oct 2018

She is a master of the ambiguous soundbite and an opportunist down to her her pinky toes.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
15. see is a hell of a lot more specific than centrists who mouth platitudes
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:16 PM
Oct 2018

then protect Wall Street and privatize everything in sight.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
14. How do you define "progressive"? Someone whose progressively better qualified
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:15 PM
Oct 2018

to be a corporate lobbyist?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
12. so...you're looking for a warmonger who destroys countries that are no threat to us
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:12 PM
Oct 2018

and turns them into havens for terrorist/mercenaries and human traffickers like we have done to too many countries since 9/11?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
21. Isn't it nice of our enemies to do the stupidest thing possible when we're looking for
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 04:59 PM
Oct 2018

an excuse to escalate?

JI7

(89,244 posts)
27. this is like trump is doing with saudi arabia. one can admit something happened without supporting
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 05:13 PM
Oct 2018

a response to it.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
34. in the case of the chemical weapons attack, the evidence didn't warrant an immediate judgment
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 08:38 PM
Oct 2018

especially when one of the three plus sides is beheading ISIS assholes funded by our lovely Gulf allies LIKE Saudi.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
35. terrorists beheading people is not an excuse to defend and protect assads chemical attacks
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 08:48 PM
Oct 2018

on children.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
38. assad did use it and it's fucked up to deny it. just like with trump and saudis
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 09:23 PM
Oct 2018

is like denying what saudi arabia did becsuse the turks are thugs also.

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
45. It's bizarre to see alleged progressives defending asad.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:56 PM
Oct 2018

But these are the times we live in I guess.

 

Haynx

(46 posts)
43. Did she eventually admit he did it?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:10 AM
Oct 2018

You said that she couldn't have made an "immediate" judgement, implying that the evidence was slow to come up.
Did Gabbard at any point condemn Assad?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
16. centrists Democrats cut Republicans a lot of slack when there's a war to be started,
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:22 PM
Oct 2018

a banker to be protected, or a public service to be privatized.

You should be figuring out which fat cat donors the party should give up so they are free to pursue more progressive policies instead of going on witch hunts for the real progressives in the party.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
17. I understand the Koch Brothers like right wing libertarian trolls like Gabbard
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 03:56 PM
Oct 2018
https://themillennialdemocrats.com/2017/10/19/tangled-tale-tulsi-gabbard-progressive-phony/

Her voting record, world view, and connections resemble much more closely a resume, tailor- made to be both barely acceptable to the leaders of the Democratic Party, and a perfect Libertarian plant. The organization Progressive Punch is a searchable database of Congressional voting records, from the perspective of the far left. They gave Bernie Sanders an A, for his lifetime support of progressive causes. Tulsi Gabbard got an F.

The tangled tale of Tulsi Gabbard makes most sense, if you consider the possibility she might really be a carefully cultivated mole, used to leak data to our enemies. It would be clear that she makes for a powerful pivotal point strategically. The far right has often been able to use her voice and power to manipulate the far left. Stirred up radicals often end up signing off on very bad ideas. Anytime they need their opposites to go along with some plot they’re cooking up, they give the job to Tulsi. Her views are often much more in line with the conservative end of our spectrum, as exemplified by her trip to Syria recently and her unending support of Assad.

Take the DNC mole. President Obama admitted that he had no intelligence on how Wikileaks got ahold of the Podesta emails whose release caused the supporters of Bernie Sanders to riot in the streets of Philadelphia. But a man named Chris Murray, a former British ambassador, had claimed that days earlier, a high ranking DNC member, said to be “disgusted” by the supposed favoring of Hillary Clinton by the DNC, had actually been the one to leak those emails, to him. At this time, Tulsi Gabbard held the position of Deputy DNC Chairman. She resigned in a huff.

<snip>

Her political record viewed as a whole gives one the eerie impression that it was tailor-made to be borderline acceptable to the Democratic hierarchy, while actually placing her much more closely in line with the Koch brothers brand of libertarianism, an experiment that failed back in the 1980’s, but whose adherents have never really abandoned. Googling “tulsi gabbard libertarian” will lead you to an entire galaxy of Libertarian newspapers, each singing her praises more fervently then the last.

BeingLibertarian.com eagerly lists us off all the reasons why Gabbard 2020 is a shoo-in, with a headline saying “Democrat Tulsi Gabbard Will Likely Be Next President.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
20. gabbard is a centrist democrat who supports war on muslim extremists
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 04:58 PM
Oct 2018

and went after obama for not being tough enough

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. her position has evolved over time based on experience & new info...
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 05:01 PM
Oct 2018

rather than new donors or new whims from existing ones.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
30. There are some here who feel seem to feel the need to flame bait, and in not so subtle ways take
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oct 2018

swipes at what they refer to as "centrist Democrats", just before the midterm elections

How convenient to ignore those centrists Democrats that gave Medicare, Medicaid, pushed through the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and SC court justices like Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the Iran Nuclear treaty, Paris Accords on Global Warming, Lilly Ledbeder Act, etc. etc. etc.

Damn those centrist Democrats..........



The OP is just a typical reference to The Hill article which does more than their share to go out of their way to create controversy between Democrats.

The article itself is vaugely worded, "Is reportedly that she is seriously considering......"

I doubt she will run, but if she did, she wouldn't even make it to Super Tuesday

As you said, she doesn't stand a chance











Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

mahina

(17,640 posts)
53. Or a Trojan horse, or at least someone adept at using our mental shortcuts to get a pass from enough
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 04:27 AM
Oct 2018

People who think in mental shorthand and respond emotionally, accepting her completely when she does not share Democratic values.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
44. Anti-interventionalism
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:31 AM
Oct 2018

There is overlap on foreign policy (as there is between Bannon and Sanders, who is also a progressive).

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
48. He knows he is radioactive sludge
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:12 PM
Oct 2018

and if he endorses someone with a chance of winning, that will hurt their chances. I don't take anything from him at face value, he would bring back the aristocracy economy of the early 1800's but is supposed to be a fan of Lenin, go figure. A pure GOP political operative.

Cha

(297,108 posts)
49. Bannon set up Trump-Gabbard meeting
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018
Bannon, who hates the entrenched two-party system, has long admired Gabbard. She’s an Iraq War veteran with an independent streak. Bannon, a navy veteran, was drawn to her when she began publicly excoriating the Obama administration over its plan to defeat ISIS.

“He loves Tulsi Gabbard. Loves her,” a second source familiar with Bannon’s thinking told The Hill. “Wants to work with her on everything

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/307106-bannon-set-up-trump-gabbard-meeting

Democrat Tulsi Gabbard Defends 'Frank and Positive' Trump Meeting

But in a statement after the meeting, Gabbard, who has often challenged President Barack Obama on national security, said she held a "frank and positive" conversation with the President-elect, discussing Syria and other foreign policy issues.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/why-democratic-rep-tulsi-gabbard-met-donald-trump-n686976

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
47. I'd love to see her run
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:01 PM
Oct 2018

Seeing the Obama hater humbled would be a fucking delight. She’d have about as much traction as Mike Gravel did in 2008.

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

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