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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:44 AM

Pence set to accuse China of interfering in U.S. policies, politics in speech

Source: CBS News



October 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday plans to accuse China of trying to undermine President Donald Trump as the administration deploys tough new rhetoric over Chinese trade, economic, and foreign policies. In a speech to the Hudson Institute, Pence will say China is using its power in "more proactive and coercive ways to interfere in the domestic policies and politics of the United States."

"China wants a different American president," Pence will say, according to excerpts of prepared remarks from his office. Pence's speech comes a week after the president accused China during a meeting of the U.N. Security Council of interfering in American elections to help his Democratic rivals.

"Regrettably, we found that China has been attempting to interfere in our upcoming 2018 election," Mr. Trump said. "They do not want me, or us, to win because I am the first president ever to challenge China on trade." As proof, Mr. Trump later referenced a paid advertising insert in The Des Moines Register by Chinese government-affiliated entities in a tweet.

Pence is set to charge that China is targeting "industries and states that would play an important role in the 2018 election" as it responds to Mr. Trump's protectionist trade tariffs on China. "By one estimate, more than 80 percent of U.S. counties targeted by China voted for President Trump in 2016; now China wants to turn these voters against our administration," Pence will say.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-set-to-accuse-china-of-interfering-in-u-s-policies-politics-in-speech/

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Reply Pence set to accuse China of interfering in U.S. policies, politics in speech (Original post)
DonViejo Oct 4 OP
fountainofyouth Oct 4 #1
CottonBear Oct 4 #2
getagrip_already Oct 4 #9
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 4 #14
TomCADem Oct 4 #20
Dave Starsky Oct 4 #3
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 4 #17
gordianot Oct 4 #4
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 4 #18
watoos Oct 4 #5
EricMaundry Oct 4 #6
yuiyoshida Oct 4 #7
eShirl Oct 4 #8
atreides1 Oct 4 #10
bigworld Oct 4 #11
Botany Oct 4 #12
Andy823 Oct 4 #13
Turbineguy Oct 4 #15
htuttle Oct 4 #16
CrispyQ Oct 4 #21
Dopers_Greed Oct 4 #19
still_one Oct 4 #22

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:46 AM

1. Hey! Look over there!

It's a distraction!

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:50 AM

2. Exactly! n/t

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:20 AM

9. no, it's a precursor argument for annulling elections.........

They have already leaked a strategy. It is being discussed in nut-town. They are going to challenge election losses as being interfered with by china. They will seek to not allow the results to be certified.

They will get support and cover from reichwing gov's, state houses, and ag's. With kavanaugh, scotus will back them.

For house seats, it will be a do-over. For senate seats, gop governors will pick the replacemnt. Scott will pick scott and the senate will stay gop.

It is that ugly. This isn't a joke or a distraction.

It's a strategy.

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:04 AM

14. What elephant?

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:56 AM

20. What's Wring With This? Bernie Does It All the Time?

Isnít scapegoating Mexico and China a bipartisan endeavor? Indeed, an strong argument can be made that the Trump administration has stolen Bernieís trade policies:



Personally, I think we need to focus on problems with income equality and environmental degradation at home.

My take is that some on the left helped reinforce Trumpís racist and xenophobic message with racist and xenophobic messages of their own.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:51 AM

3. Setting the narrative for suspending the election...

Or refusing to seat Democrats when their GOP opponents are thrown out of office.

Fuck them all to hell.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:09 AM

17. In 2016 Trump said he'd only accept the election results if he won.

This could be an extension of that play. "The Democrat (sic) Party could only have won with Chinese help, so they don't have a legal right to be seated." Let's take that argument to a Kavanaugh SCOTUS and see how it turns out. He's definitely the wild card -- a justice who openly showed himself to be a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:52 AM

4. Wasn't it just a few days ago Canada was a national threat?

Someone quick needs to explain what happens to trade wars.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:12 AM

18. There's always been that faction that blames Canada for everything that's wrong in the U.S.



Gawd, I miss Robin Williams.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:06 AM

5. Kabuki Theater

for the Deplorables.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:13 AM

6. Anything for Putin

The closest thing to true love that we will ever see in international politics.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:16 AM

7. These Republicans are getting on my last nerve

ONE OF them or two might get us in another war, one that will go, just too far, and that's a nightmare I don't want to live in.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:18 AM

8. Wait, I thought you guys were cool with foreign influence of US elections.

Which is it?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:48 AM

10. In other words

That good white xtian, is going to lie and use racist rhetoric against an Asian culture...in order to scare the shit out of white people!!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:53 AM

11. They're preparing an explanation for the Blue Wave

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:02 AM

12. It was China. Yeah that's the ticket.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:13 AM

13. I's not just China

Hell the whole world, and the vast majority of Americans want a "different president". The only ones who don't are the Russians, they like the guy the put in office!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:07 AM

15. An excelent distraction.

War with China.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:09 AM

16. Interesting timing -- Bloomberg just released a story about Chinese spy chips in US servers today

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Amazon and Apple both vehemently denies a lot of the material in the story, however.
https://www.thestreet.com/markets/amazon-and-apple-deny-bloomberg-report-on-china-hardware-hack-14733776

Makes me wonder about the timing. Both of those companies know that getting caught hiding a vulnerability like this would very severely impact their sales, and both have reported vulnerabilities before, so they don't have a habit of doing that.

Smells weird due to the timing, and the denials from industry leaders. Smells like borscht.

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Response to htuttle (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:57 AM

21. "Smells like borscht."

DUzy!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:35 AM

19. They're trying to set up a "Democrats colluded with China" narrative

For when they lose next month.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:13 PM

22. just in time to invalidate the midterms if the Democrats win

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