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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:19 PM Sep 2018

Bailout checks begin arriving for farmers, as Trump's trade war escalates

Source: The Washington Post



By Jeff Stein
September 21 at 2:29 PM

The federal government has given $25.8 million to farmers this month under a program designed to help them weather President Trump’s international trade battle, a spokesman for the Agriculture Department said Friday.

The money represents some of the first payments of what the Trump administration said will eventually be a $12 billion bailout, which aims to help farmers cope with retaliatory tariffs foreign countries have imposed on their products. Those retaliatory tariffs have dimmed demand for U.S. products overseas and resulted in a domestic supply glut that has deflated some prices at home.

From Sept. 4 through Thursday, the USDA has received 39,447 applications for aid. The department has approved 7,851 applications thus far, the USDA official said. The administration has planned an initial $4.7 billion in payments for producers of commodities such as corn, cotton, dairy products, pork, sorghum, soybeans and wheat.

The program will give aid to farmers based on a formula that accounts for the “severity of the trade disruption” — essentially, an estimate of how much money the trade war is costing them — as well as the size of their production, the USDA said in announcing the program.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/21/bailout-checks-begin-arriving-farmers-trumps-trade-war-escalates/

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Bailout checks begin arriving for farmers, as Trump's trade war escalates (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
They can write thousands of checks in a couple of weeks ... marble falls Sep 2018 #1
Children don't vote TexasBushwhacker Sep 2018 #45
"How can we pay for Healthcare for All?" Yavin4 Sep 2018 #2
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #9
MAGA!!! llmart Sep 2018 #3
One wonders if they're going to bounce sakabatou Sep 2018 #4
..and they all bitch about welfare queens... samnsara Sep 2018 #5
I hope they realize that's socialism. Vinca Sep 2018 #6
My thought exactly...also, who in the administration is pocketing some of this money? Perseus Sep 2018 #10
The recipients know they are hypocrites and they don't care, really. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #12
No it is not. pangaia Sep 2018 #19
It's a social safety net NickB79 Sep 2018 #33
They call it socialism because they are stupid and listen to lies. pangaia Sep 2018 #39
Welfare BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #7
We used to call this Vote buying. Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #8
I think like you!!!! bluestarone Sep 2018 #24
Another Free Market success story! Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #11
This isn't sustainable Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #13
they just need to purchase these mid-term votes EleanorR Sep 2018 #42
Where the hell.... Wuddles440 Sep 2018 #14
Suckle that government teet Farmers. TeamPooka Sep 2018 #15
Farmers on welfare. maga mountain grammy Sep 2018 #16
Wonder who got the checks and size of farm benld74 Sep 2018 #17
Waste of my tax dollars. roamer65 Sep 2018 #18
Another blow to the budget. Next step - cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security groundloop Sep 2018 #20
Ah, The Farmer On The Dole...(not In The Dell) Spartacus101 Sep 2018 #21
Why only the farmers The Liberal Lion Sep 2018 #22
Those farmers should be ashamed... LuvLoogie Sep 2018 #23
I'm going to start watching labels. roamer65 Sep 2018 #25
I only buy from local organic farms.. Cha Sep 2018 #47
I agree with what everybody is saying Doreen Sep 2018 #26
Bailing out Rebl2 Sep 2018 #27
The hypocrisy is simply beyond belief DonaldsRump Sep 2018 #28
I hope there are open records on who is receiving these bailouts UpInArms Sep 2018 #29
HA HA this will be just like bluestarone Sep 2018 #30
Check this website NickB79 Sep 2018 #34
The party of small government is going to have to hire a lot of bureaucrats to process the progree Sep 2018 #31
They are willing to pay for the harvest, but unwilling to let the poor nourish from it. nt Gore1FL Sep 2018 #32
The farmers will end up bluestarone Sep 2018 #35
Trump's polices are killing farmers. After all, trade wars are 'easy to win'. keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #36
Farmers Rejecting Donald's socialism? keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #37
Will the Midwest vote Blue Rizen Sep 2018 #38
Welcome to DU, Rizen DesertRat Sep 2018 #41
I'm in Rizen Sep 2018 #43
There's a real chance of governorships flipping from Red to Blue DesertRat Sep 2018 #46
Most of this $ will go to ... Whiskeytide Sep 2018 #40
Where is my check for higher food costs Ilsa Sep 2018 #44
Fucking socialist repukes bailing out their base. truthisfreedom Sep 2018 #48

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
1. They can write thousands of checks in a couple of weeks ...
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:23 PM
Sep 2018

but they can't keep track of hundreds of children supposedly under confinement over the last two years. Shameful.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
3. MAGA!!!
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:31 PM
Sep 2018

He sure is making America great again, isn't he? Now farmers are taking handouts from the federal government because of Trump's stupid tariffs. Wonder how many of them had big ole' Trump signs on the sides of their barns in 2016?

Conservatives my ass.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. My thought exactly...also, who in the administration is pocketing some of this money?
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:48 PM
Sep 2018

Someone is getting rich here...12 billion??? I think we are going to see new millionaires coming out of this administration.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
33. It's a social safety net
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 10:45 PM
Sep 2018

Just like welfare, food stamps, unemployment payments, etc.

In other words, all the things all my Midwestern corn-and-soy-farming uncles, along with every Fox News commentator, called socialism for the past 20 years and wanted destroyed.

BumRushDaShow

(128,521 posts)
7. Welfare
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:39 PM
Sep 2018

(in quotes) or so they call it when it is "someone else", like those "lazy inner city freeloading gang-banging thugs".

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
13. This isn't sustainable
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:50 PM
Sep 2018

and, as yet, there's no end date on Trump's trade war with China AFAIK. In fact, isn't it supposed to be getting worse?

Wuddles440

(1,120 posts)
14. Where the hell....
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:53 PM
Sep 2018

is my bailout check for all the tax and price increases this fuckhead has cost me? Seriously, where is it??!!!

benld74

(9,901 posts)
17. Wonder who got the checks and size of farm
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:21 PM
Sep 2018

When I worked there
I could look into raw data files and see names
Estimate amounts states etc
Good old days
Majority back then
Were NOT small farmers
They were BIG operations

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
20. Another blow to the budget. Next step - cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:31 PM
Sep 2018

These rat-fucking gopers will stop at nothing to take away the benefits I've paid for all my life.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
22. Why only the farmers
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:49 PM
Sep 2018

The ripple effects of the ill informed trade policy of this illegal white house will reverberate throughout the entire economy. Many will be affected adversely. Is this white house, and this congress prepared to put the entire country on this "aid"?

LuvLoogie

(6,936 posts)
23. Those farmers should be ashamed...
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:53 PM
Sep 2018

Just think how many immigrant children you could jail with that money?

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
25. I'm going to start watching labels.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:29 PM
Sep 2018

I will buy non-American and non-Chinese agricultural products when I can.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
47. I only buy from local organic farms..
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:39 AM
Sep 2018

I know they're not enabling trump to steal from others to pay off these farmers on the dole so trump can fuck up trade wars.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
26. I agree with what everybody is saying
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:45 PM
Sep 2018

but I have a question. Are they getting enough money to put into first, last months rent and the deposit for their apartment they are going to end up living in? I saw on TV some guy who is supposed to get the money but he said it will not be enough to save his farm and he is going to still use it anyway.

Rebl2

(13,471 posts)
27. Bailing out
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:05 PM
Sep 2018

farmers is nothing new. Seems like I remember they used to pay farmers to not grow certain crops years ago. I’m sure what they are getting, like someone posted, won’t be enough to save their farms.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
28. The hypocrisy is simply beyond belief
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:14 PM
Sep 2018

How exactly is this not welfare? Why is welfare bad for PoC but not these folks?

The whole "tax cut" and now this welfare farce is a scam to artificially boost the economy....and it is working to delude some people as to how wonderful the economy is. I hope that our folks are wise enough to make a simple set of arguments to these people about the artifices that are being used and the long-term damage that is being done.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
29. I hope there are open records on who is receiving these bailouts
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:15 PM
Sep 2018

With the insurance program, the had the private entity shield ... but ... this is public money, so there should be open records to check

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
34. Check this website
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 10:59 PM
Sep 2018
https://farm.ewg.org

It appears to only update 2 years behind current year, so it may be a while before you can find more info on Trump's handouts though.

For fun, I just looked up my farming family. Man, they sure are sucking hard on that government teat for being red-blooded MAGA promoters. My 5 uncles, my dad, and my two grandparents (now deceased), received a total of $1.014 MILLION from 1995-2016!

progree

(10,893 posts)
31. The party of small government is going to have to hire a lot of bureaucrats to process the
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 08:38 PM
Sep 2018

applications and figure the proper amounts of the checks and keep track of all of this etc.

I thought Republicans hated government bureaucrats.

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
35. The farmers will end up
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:05 PM
Sep 2018

Fighting each other!! I can just hear them now WHY DID YOU GET MORE THAN ME???

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
36. Trump's polices are killing farmers. After all, trade wars are 'easy to win'.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:09 PM
Sep 2018

Trump’s polices are killing farmers.

After all, trade wars are 'easy to win'.

Farmers are killing themselves in staggering numbers

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/farmers-are-killing-themselves-in-staggering-numbers/ar-AAzbcCN

Why are America's farmers killing themselves in record numbers?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/why-are-americas-farmers-killing-themselves-in-record-numbers

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
37. Farmers Rejecting Donald's socialism?
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:10 PM
Sep 2018

Something you won't hear from a Trump-country farmer:
Rejecting Donald's socialism.

Rizen

(707 posts)
38. Will the Midwest vote Blue
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 11:21 PM
Sep 2018

I hope the direct impact of the tariffs will convince farmers and factory workers to vote blue, or at least not support Republicans in the midterms. Republican hypocrisy about the bailouts is strong as ever. They don't care where the money they spend comes from.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
46. There's a real chance of governorships flipping from Red to Blue
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:06 PM
Sep 2018

In Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Iowa, and Kansas.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
40. Most of this $ will go to ...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:15 AM
Sep 2018

... large, corporate owned farming operations. When the farm produces, workers are paid. When a bailout check arrives, I suspect executives and shareholders will see bonuses and dividends. It’s the perfect republican scam.

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