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fleur-de-lisa Aug 2018 OP
George II Aug 2018 #1
Snellius Aug 2018 #2
DesertRat Aug 2018 #4
Snellius Aug 2018 #7
Achilleaze Aug 2018 #3
DesertRat Aug 2018 #5
Gothmog Aug 2018 #6
brer cat Aug 2018 #12
Gothmog Aug 2018 #13
dbackjon Aug 2018 #8
keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #9
keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #10
Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #11
onenote Aug 2018 #14
joshcryer Aug 2018 #15
Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #16
TexasBushwhacker Aug 2018 #17
christx30 Aug 2018 #18
Marengo Aug 2018 #19

Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:39 PM

1. Oh no, how can it be? I'm sure Hannity is already looking to spin that somehow.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:00 PM

2. This story's not over yet. Trump and FOX had it concocted from the start.

These days half-baked information is memed out so fast, and exploited so completely that no one has any idea of what's really going on. The pace of Twitter and the internet has made almost all news fake news. Fake and lazy. Thank god there's still a press that actually attempts to check what's really the story and not just info bits.

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Response to Snellius (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:06 PM

4. This WH, Fox and the GOP don't give a shit about violence against women

They are using this young woman's tragic murder to advance their racist, anti-immigration agenda. It's disgusting.

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:13 PM

7. They don't give a shit about ANYTHING or ANYONE

but their vain and heartless concern for themselves. "Disgusting" is not even strong enough. If there is an avenging angle they deserve what's coming to them. How can you tear children from their mothers and not even return them to where they belong? Because they're not white and American? That's where they really crossed the line between decency and cruelty and they can never walk that one back. And the fact that someone had to tell Trump, "You can't do that!" and he just says "Duh. My bad."

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:06 PM

3. Wow, republicans lie about every damn thing

they are incapable of truth

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:07 PM

5. All lying crooks. Every damn one of them

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:07 PM

6. There goes trump's latest talking point

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 06:00 PM

12. It would if facts matter,

but we know he thinks lies are better.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:13 PM

13. Darn facts

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:18 PM

8. Now the TrumpGOP can stop pretending they cared about her in the first place.

 

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 05:02 PM

9. Now the repubs are claiming that their killer is legal?

Now the repubs are claiming that their killer is legal?

It just gets curiouser and curiouser.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 05:07 PM

10. But however comma,,,,,,,

Yarrabee Farms, Rivera’s employer, issued a statement Tuesday night saying Rivera was vetted through the government's E-Verify system. However, a government archive does not indicate the Brooklyn, Iowa, farm as a participating member of the system.

On Wednesday, however, officials from the farm retracted the statement and acknowledged they did not use the E-Verify system.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 05:08 PM

11. Thanks, fleur-de-lisa, for finding the real information instead of going with the racist headlines.

The ones who grabbed the headlines created to attract racist reaction needed to start looking for the truth, first.

It's almost a given when the lunatics seized upon the "illegal alien" aspect of a horrendous crime that there was an unterior motive, or they would have gone about it in a more intelligent manner.

First thing sensible people would think about the first one out the gates is that they were gearing it to throw to the Dumpster Divers.

Found a map of the area where this atrocity happened:



From:

Man charged in Tibbetts' death was working in Iowa legally, lawyer says
USA TODAY NETWORKJason Clayworth and Austin Cannon, Des Moines Register
Published 7:48 a.m. ET Aug. 22, 2018 | Updated 4:48 p.m. ET Aug. 22, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbetts-undocumented-immigrant-suspect/1060204002/

Thank you for the thread.


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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:13 PM

14. Whether he was in the country legally or illegally is an unresolved question.

Those who jumped to the conclusion he was in the country illegally were wrong to do so. It also would be wrong to jump to the conclusion that he was in the country legally.

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Response to onenote (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:21 PM

15. I think his lawyer is throwing out a hail mary.

To get a gag order through. If the gag order goes through then his status can't be discussed openly.

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Response to onenote (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:37 PM

16. Why should his status even be an object of obsession at this point? His "race?"

Why not mourn the murder and allow the law to work on the case, and not burble about whether or not he was an "illegal" and why we should get busy and build Trump's stupid wall, and try to generate insane hatred against people with browner skin than yours, mine, or ours?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:16 PM

17. Because it contaminates the jury pool

There will be people more likely to convict just because he's an illegal immigrant and you can't unring a bell.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:29 PM

18. Because if he's not here with legal authorization,

he shouldn't be here at all. He should be home in Mexico. If he were in Mexico, that girl would be alive right now.
At least he doesn't have to worry about deportation any more. He'll spend the rest of his live in a cage in Iowa.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Thu Aug 23, 2018, 09:26 AM

19. Or maybe not? Suspect is now reported to have been working under a false ID.

 

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