Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:58 AM
TomCADem (16,339 posts)
U.S. consumer sentiment hits 11-month low, inflation in focus
Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumer sentiment fell to an 11-month low in early August, with households expressing concerns about the rising cost of living, potentially signaling a slowdown in consumer spending. The University of Michigan on Friday said its consumer sentiment index fell to a reading of 95.3 early this month, the weakest since September 2017, from 97.9 in July. The survey’s current conditions sub-index of consumer expectations dropped to 107.8 from July’s reading of 114.4. It said the decline in sentiment was concentrated among households in the bottom third of the income distribution, adding that consumers’ views on prices for big-ticket household goods were the least favorable in nearly 10 years. Inflation has been rising in recent months, driven in part by strong domestic demand and a labor market that is viewed as being near or at full employment. Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-confidence/u-s-consumer-sentiment-hits-11-month-low-inflation-in-focus-idUSKBN1L21N6
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TomCADem | Aug 2018 | OP |
TomCADem | Aug 2018 | #1 | |
sandensea | Aug 2018 | #2 | |
TomCADem | Aug 2018 | #5 | |
sandensea | Aug 2018 | #7 | |
beachbum bob | Aug 2018 | #3 | |
SWBTATTReg | Aug 2018 | #4 | |
pazzyanne | Aug 2018 | #11 | |
SWBTATTReg | Aug 2018 | #20 | |
Doodley | Aug 2018 | #6 | |
TomCADem | Aug 2018 | #8 | |
kimbutgar | Aug 2018 | #9 | |
at140 | Aug 2018 | #10 | |
riversedge | Aug 2018 | #14 | |
paleotn | Aug 2018 | #17 | |
at140 | Aug 2018 | #24 | |
marble falls | Aug 2018 | #12 | |
roamer65 | Aug 2018 | #13 | |
Astraea | Aug 2018 | #15 | |
paleotn | Aug 2018 | #16 | |
zentrum | Aug 2018 | #18 | |
TomCADem | Aug 2018 | #22 | |
zentrum | Aug 2018 | #25 | |
Spartacus101 | Aug 2018 | #19 | |
duforsure | Aug 2018 | #21 | |
Shumi | Aug 2018 | #23 |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:01 PM
TomCADem (16,339 posts)
1. Real wages are down over the year -- but Republican satisfaction is spiking
This reminds me of 2007 when Fox News and the business media, including Larry Kudlow, where bending over backwards to insist that the economy was doing great.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/15/real-wages-are-down-over-the-year-but-republican-satisfaction-is-spiking/?utm_term=.0b59ceda2de4 Except for a little hiccup in October, average hourly earnings in the United States have increased month after month while President Trump has been in office. In January 2017, the average hourly earnings were $25.99. In July 2018, the most recent month for which data are available, it was $27.05 — an increase of more than a dollar. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf Real average hourly earnings for production and nonsupervisory employees decreased 0.1 percent from |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:03 PM
sandensea (13,143 posts)
2. The Trump slump
Now that it's beginning to sink in that Cheeto's top-end tax cuts and Obamacare sabotage is causing nothing but trouble, people are beginning to pull in their horns.
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Response to sandensea (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:08 PM
TomCADem (16,339 posts)
5. The genius Larry Kudlow during the 2007 financial catastrophe: 'There's no recession coming.'
Just a reminder, we have been here before with some of the same characters from the Dubya Great Recession years. Remember the Bush Boom?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/15/1749039/-The-genius-Larry-Kudlow-during-the-2007-financial-catastrophe-There-s-no-recession-coming Presenting the economic super-genius Larry Kudlow, who took to the National Review in December, 2007, to explain that there was no recession. |
Response to TomCADem (Reply #5)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:13 PM
sandensea (13,143 posts)
7. Him - and the rest of the right-wing talking heads.
I lived in Southern California at the time; I remember suggesting to few friends and relatives (the ones that owned homes), to sell in the Summer of '05.
One of them agreed, but told me he couldn't. The others, I don't know (one of them later foreclosed). Bubbles pop. And these right-wing adminsitrations love creating them. |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:03 PM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
3. Gas prices, grocery prices...growing impact of tariffs and a nonexistent taxcut
All starting to impact. When the market has a 30% correction...trump and GOP are dead weights..
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:03 PM
SWBTATTReg (14,371 posts)
4. Everything our idiot president has been doing is simply adding to the cost of ...
everything and also, making planning very uncertain, which tends to increase cost too.
Businesses (and us too) like a stable environment to operate in, and rump is certainly not providing it. And don't give me the excuse 'oh, he's working on it' if they are any rump nuts out there reading this. He's been a so called businessman for decades...he's not acting like it. |
Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #4)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:14 PM
pazzyanne (4,711 posts)
11. I think he is acting like a business man
who has had 5 bankruptcies. What more should we expect from this low IQ45? Even though I'm living through this I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact over 6 million people thought this guy was going to save them. So sad - and terrible.
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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:09 PM
SWBTATTReg (14,371 posts)
20. Yeah, I know...we don't expect anything and the more I learn about the voting discrepancies...
I am beginning to wonder if he really did win the 60 million votes vs. the 63 million HRC won...
Five bankruptcies should have rang bells in the republican party as to the quality of candidate they were selecting (vs. Mitt R. for example)...so, I think yeah, there is something going on w/ all of these guys (collusion, whatever) in this whole mess, as well as fraud... Oh well, 2018 November is coming quickly, and we going to stomp their ass and then in 2020, more so... Take care... |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:10 PM
Doodley (7,637 posts)
6. A wave of.underwhelming economic news is coming before the blue wave.
Response to Doodley (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:17 PM
TomCADem (16,339 posts)
8. Larry Kudlow: Celebrating The Bush Boo..., Er, Trump Boom!
Remember how despite close to eight years of growth under President Obama, the right media attacked President Obama's economic leadership? Conversely, conservatives have a similar track record when it comes to celebrating booms just even as signs of a recession start to appear.
For example, yesterday, Larry Kudlow was on Fox celebrating the Trump Boom: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/16/larry-kudlow-says-donald-trump-caused-single-biggest-event-economic-boom Larry Kudlow: 'Single Biggest Event' of 2018 Is Trump's 'Economic Boom Thought to Be Impossible' Which sounds like a redux of his 2007 celebration of the Bush Boom: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/15/1749039/-The-genius-Larry-Kudlow-during-the-2007-financial-catastrophe-There-s-no-recession-coming
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:36 PM
kimbutgar (14,780 posts)
9. I have seen it close up recently
One of my part time jobs is moving seniors from their homes to assisted living or helping older couples move to a downsized condo/apartment/townhouse. I thought I would’ve busy this summer but there were no jobs. My boss called me last week about an upcoming job. She said her business has been scarily quiet and people have been apprehensive about moving because they are concerned about the economy and don’t want to get in financial troubles because memories of the 2008 collapse was not that long ago. Where we do everything from packing, downsizing, unpacking them, now they only want us to pack and take care of unpacking themselves. My boss has been so surprised that business is so quiet. She definitely is planning the orange maggots economy and so are the clients.
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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #9)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:53 PM
at140 (5,436 posts)
10. Not happening in Seattle area
My daughter is in the market fora house, but crappy fixer-uppers are asking $800,000 for 1500 sq-ft houses. And most houses sell above asking price!
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Response to at140 (Reply #10)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 04:42 PM
riversedge (59,368 posts)
14. My niece was home from Seattle last week. She and her partner were looking at houses after
renting for several years. She said very expensive. They looked at a 750,000 house the week before but she said it needed way tooooo much work plus a puny yard and not even a shade tree.
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Response to at140 (Reply #10)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 07:30 PM
paleotn (9,338 posts)
17. Overheated housing market in many places
We've seen this pattern before in 2004, 2005, 2006. Prices rise to the point fewer and fewer can afford them without going into outrageous debt. And then, at some point, prices collapse.
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Response to paleotn (Reply #17)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:56 AM
at140 (5,436 posts)
24. Exactly! I am giving housing boom 18-24 months.
The historically low mortgage rates are keeping it afloat.
All it needs is a slight hiccup in the economy and it will be 2010-2011 repeated again. Like playing Jenga! |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:48 PM
marble falls (35,776 posts)
12. Gotta have minted a couple of million votes right there. Nothing like not being able ...
to count on that new trolling motor or washer/dryer to make him and the Mrs vote Blue.
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:00 PM
roamer65 (24,457 posts)
13. Just wait...the best is yet to come.
The $1T plus deficits eventually will spook Treasury paper buyers and cause a fiscal and downright lovely currency crisis.
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 06:54 PM
Astraea (437 posts)
15. but.... i thought we were winning!
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 07:21 PM
paleotn (9,338 posts)
16. Peak of the business cycle.
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:00 PM
zentrum (9,607 posts)
18. NPR reported last
...week that consumer confidence was up. No idea where they got this from---but it was given as a news fact.
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Response to zentrum (Reply #18)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:05 AM
TomCADem (16,339 posts)
22. Do You Have a LInk? I Wonder What Index Were They Citing.
What was the question posed? If it was that the economy was "booming," then folks might just repeat the general talking point of the day. But. if it was more personal and specific, then you might get a more relevant answer.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #22)
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 08:08 AM
zentrum (9,607 posts)
25. Tried to re-locate the story and can't.
My friend heard it at the same time, and we were equally stunned and disheartened by the strangeness of the report. Wish I had paid better attention to source. Next time.....
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 10:55 PM
Spartacus101 (93 posts)
19. Local Supermarket Prices Spiking
Been shopping at the same Supermarket store here in SoCal since December 2017, I rarely change my list. My usual bill has risen 23% on average since then.
I am dead serious. For a senior on a fixed income, this has been a real blow. Needless to say, I have changed stores and my list. (knocked 10% off that 23%, but I have to drive 10 miles farther...). Next on the menu would be shoe leather, except that they're plastic now.... ![]() |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:05 AM
duforsure (10,815 posts)
21. The American people can see whats coming
The trump slump is just around the corner, and like W did he'll claim everything is doing ok, when its not, unless you're a 1%er. You don't remove health care away from millions of people, watch energy go from $40 to $68 a barrel without rising costs, or tariffs jumping costs up, and their tax scam bill is enriching the wealthiest people in this country from robbing the middle class and poor. The stock market will see it to soon and start selling off from his recession or possible depression he's causing for putin. Trillions have been transferred to the rich , and economies don't do well as we saw under W Bushes time in office after that happens.
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:31 AM
Shumi (24 posts)
23. wages are not growing
I feel a recession coming soon.
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