Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:59 AM
Calista241 (4,136 posts)
Brock Turner's sexual assault appeal: He intended 'outercourse,' not intercourse
Source: Washington Post
An attorney for Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in 2016, launched a bid to overturn his client’s convictions before a panel of skeptical appellate judges Tuesday, arguing that Turner never intended to have sexual intercourse with the woman. He just wanted “outercourse,” attorney Eric S. Multhaup told the court in a brief and in oral arguments. The distinction is central to Multhaup’s argument that Turner should not have been convicted of assault with intent to commit rape because, he claims, Turner’s clothes were on when two bicyclists saw him thrusting on top of the half-naked, unconscious woman. He argued that Turner was engaged only in “outercourse,” a “version of safe sex” with no “penile contact,” Multhaup explained, the Palo Alto Weekly reported. The long-shot legal argument had three California 6th District Court of Appeal justices scratching their heads, according to multiple accounts of the hearing. “I absolutely don’t understand what you are talking about,” Justice Franklin D. Elia told Multhaup, the San Jose Mercury News reported. Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/07/26/brock-turners-sexual-assault-appeal-he-intended-outercourse-not-intercourse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccee12533494
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Author | Time | Post |
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Calista241 | Jul 2018 | OP |
cstanleytech | Jul 2018 | #1 | |
forgotmylogin | Jul 2018 | #11 | |
lark | Jul 2018 | #2 | |
ADX | Jul 2018 | #3 | |
christx30 | Jul 2018 | #18 | |
ADX | Jul 2018 | #19 | |
hlthe2b | Jul 2018 | #4 | |
NewJeffCT | Jul 2018 | #5 | |
louis-t | Jul 2018 | #6 | |
Pacifist Patriot | Jul 2018 | #7 | |
Aristus | Jul 2018 | #8 | |
TexasBushwhacker | Jul 2018 | #17 | |
Initech | Jul 2018 | #9 | |
keithbvadu2 | Jul 2018 | #10 | |
Floyd R. Turbo | Jul 2018 | #12 | |
packman | Jul 2018 | #13 | |
iluvtennis | Jul 2018 | #14 | |
mwooldri | Jul 2018 | #15 | |
TexasBushwhacker | Jul 2018 | #16 | |
B Stieg | Jul 2018 | #20 | |
jb5150 | Jul 2018 | #21 | |
jmowreader | Jul 2018 | #22 | |
3catwoman3 | Jul 2018 | #23 | |
madinmaryland | Jul 2018 | #24 |
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:04 AM
cstanleytech (22,170 posts)
1. "outercourse" Multhaup deserves to be laughed out of the courthouse for that BS.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:03 AM
forgotmylogin (6,646 posts)
11. Oh yeah, OUTERCOURSE is fine. (heavy eye roll)
By definition that would make the doctor molesting the wrestlers innocent as well. Hey, safe sex is not rape!
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:05 AM
lark (17,572 posts)
2. Just say no to this craziness.
Hell no would also do.
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:08 AM
ADX (1,622 posts)
3. "Would"/"Wouldn't", "Outercourse"/"Intercourse"...
...this is the quagmire of bullshit we've now been reduced to thanks to the orange buffoon.
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Response to ADX (Reply #3)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:39 AM
christx30 (6,188 posts)
18. This has been going on way before Trump.
It just all depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is. Know what I mean?
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Response to christx30 (Reply #18)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:59 AM
ADX (1,622 posts)
19. Yeah, Bill had his moments...
...and I eye-rolled on the "is" comment as well as the "didn't inhale" one but Chump has taken shit to a whole 'nother level of absurdity.
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:11 AM
hlthe2b (84,074 posts)
4. they should send him back to jail for presenting THAT defense on appeal alone...
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:31 AM
NewJeffCT (56,482 posts)
5. hey moron
it's still sexual and it's still an assault.
(moron comment addressed to Brock Turner, not the OP) |
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:38 AM
louis-t (20,720 posts)
6. "Panel of skeptical appeals judges"
I can just see the looks on their faces. One eyebrow raised..
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Response to louis-t (Reply #6)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:43 AM
Pacifist Patriot (23,701 posts)
7. and jaws dropped
Unreal!
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:50 AM
Aristus (54,326 posts)
8. "And if that doesn't convince you to offer clemency, Your Honors,
I'm a very good swimmer. I hope you'll keep that in mind during your deliberations."
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Response to Aristus (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:21 AM
TexasBushwhacker (16,518 posts)
17. He was planning on going to med school
Now there won't be a school in the US that will take him and even if he went to school in another country, he will never be able to practice in the US.
Too bad Brock. Go work on Wall Street. You'll fit right in. |
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:53 AM
Initech (86,491 posts)
9. Still doesn't make it any better!
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:55 AM
keithbvadu2 (19,686 posts)
10. Gotta give 'em credit for imagination
Gotta give 'em credit for imagination
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:07 AM
Floyd R. Turbo (14,634 posts)
12. Right there with "affluenza"!
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:07 AM
packman (13,141 posts)
13. Now I realize what that dog was doing to my leg
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:36 AM
iluvtennis (14,966 posts)
14. 'Outcourse' - yeah right. Just like that 'Affluenza' defense from few years ago. I call BS.
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
mwooldri (9,578 posts)
15. Outercourse? I read that as "titty f*ck".
It's still "sex".
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:17 AM
TexasBushwhacker (16,518 posts)
16. She's half naked and unconscious
He wasn't convicted of rape. He was convicted of assault with intent to rape. Assuming she didn't take her own clothes off while unconscious, it seems to me he was convicted of the appropriate crime. While not technically "rape" at the time in California, he digitally penetrated her while she was extremely intoxicated, thus unable to give consent. That's still sexual assault and would still put him on the sex offender registry.
But you know what? Give him a new trial. This time he will get convicted again and the judge won't just give him 6 months in jail. |
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:10 PM
B Stieg (2,410 posts)
20. The "Frottage Defense"?
Still an act of sexual assault!
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:32 PM
jb5150 (858 posts)
21. If he wasn't intending to have intercourse,
why did he lift her dress and remove her underwear? I guess I can't blame the lawyer for trying to defend his client, but that scumbag was definitely guilty, and got off pretty damn light for what he did.
This is the DU member formerly known as jb5150.
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:53 PM
jmowreader (44,545 posts)
22. Oh-Kay!
The idiot was convicted of sexual assault on an unconscious woman, and his defense is he only did “safe sex.”
Some people’s children really need some quality time washing prison dishes. |
Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:31 PM
3catwoman3 (16,433 posts)
23. Oh, please.
This is pathetic and disgusting.
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:37 PM
madinmaryland (63,096 posts)
24. Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, it is still a sexual assault. Just as
"grab them by the pussy" is sexual assault.
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