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Study: NY Times, Wash. Post quote more than twice as many Republicans as Democrats in political cove

Source: Media Matters for America



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Reply Study: NY Times, Wash. Post quote more than twice as many Republicans as Democrats in political cove (Original post)
Nero Mero Jul 2018 OP
pazzyanne Jul 2018 #1
Achilleaze Jul 2018 #2
turbinetree Jul 2018 #3
thbobby Jul 2018 #4
still_one Jul 2018 #5
jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #11
2naSalit Jul 2018 #15
still_one Jul 2018 #21
karynnj Jul 2018 #55
Lulu KC Jul 2018 #48
InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #51
elmac Jul 2018 #6
PatrickforO Jul 2018 #9
FakeNoose Jul 2018 #19
calimary Jul 2018 #23
BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #28
PatrickforO Jul 2018 #40
BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #42
PatrickforO Jul 2018 #52
onenote Jul 2018 #18
elmac Jul 2018 #37
onenote Jul 2018 #38
UpInArms Jul 2018 #45
onenote Jul 2018 #47
elmac Jul 2018 #50
onenote Jul 2018 #53
elmac Jul 2018 #54
irisblue Jul 2018 #7
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #8
jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #12
FakeNoose Jul 2018 #20
calimary Jul 2018 #24
yonder Jul 2018 #26
PatrickforO Jul 2018 #41
beachbum bob Jul 2018 #10
YOHABLO Jul 2018 #44
beachbum bob Jul 2018 #46
Equinox Moon Jul 2018 #13
Name removed Jul 2018 #14
calimary Jul 2018 #27
mehrrh Jul 2018 #16
SunSeeker Jul 2018 #17
BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #30
Hamlette Jul 2018 #22
kimbutgar Jul 2018 #25
NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #29
kyburbonkid Jul 2018 #31
brooklynite Jul 2018 #32
joshcryer Jul 2018 #33
betsuni Jul 2018 #49
ck4829 Jul 2018 #56
Amimnoch Jul 2018 #34
Jarqui Jul 2018 #35
BlueWI Jul 2018 #36
murielm99 Jul 2018 #39
Cha Jul 2018 #43

Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:29 PM

1. And they call this the liberal media! Ya, right!!!

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:30 PM

2. There you have it (R). Americans are getting skewed reality

and republicans whine all the time about the "liberal" media - just another stinking republican lie.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:31 PM

3. K&R

+1

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:32 PM

4. Fair and balanced. /nt

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:37 PM

5. This has been going on for some time, and I suspect they do it because they believe it gives them

the appearance of impartiality, which is also why they seem to push "false" equivalency theme between both parties.


What it actually does is misrepresent and distort the facts.


The perfect example of this was when Comey had released the letter to the republicans 11 days before the election, and they reported it as the email investigation had been reopened. THAT WAS A LIE, but it did not stop them from repeating and repeating it on all their outlets. The television medium was especially complicit in this, where they paraded every right wing pundent across the television screen propagating that LIE for days.

Yes, what poses for news reporting in this country is a disgrace



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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:23 PM

11. Good points

This is our (journalists') weak spot, and it has been since the Reagan administration. We need to have a thicker skin and not worry about what Republicans may say about our work and our alleged biases.

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:34 PM

15. NPR does this too...nt

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:06 PM

21. I think this started when they they started when the right wing talking point characterized the

media as "the liberal media", and they felt compelled to "dispel that talking point"

I think this is why when some people express frustration because Democrats do not seem to come back against the republicans, it is more that either the Democrats aren't given adequate coverage by our illustrious media.


When John Kerry was running for President, and the Swift Boater assholes started pushing their garbage, the media started playing those deplorable ads as part of their news coverage, so not only were they getting free advertising without having to pay for it, but the media was focusing on it as a "legitimate news story". There are just so many examples where the press dropped the ball, and effectively let themselves be used, either willing or not



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Response to still_one (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:11 PM

55. You can add that they demanded Kerry refute the charges of the liars ignoring that the liars

Disagreed with the official record. They then did not give much coverage to Kerry's response given to the firefighters union, where he referenced the Navy's response. They also did not bother to actually look through the detailed Navy records that were on his website. Had they done so, they would have seen that at 25, he was a strong leader. More than one supervisor noted the unusual loyalty his subordinates had for him. In addition to refuting the liars, those reports also blew away many rw caricatures of him, starting with being aloof or snobbish.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:34 AM

48. With Koch Industries being a major supporter

I'm surprised NPR hasn't turned into Fox News. Yet.

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 11:03 AM

51. The false equivalency and normalizing of Nazi Rethuglicans is beyond disgusting.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:45 PM

6. This mess started when reagan's FCC eliminated the fairness doctrine

 

and the deregulation of the industry. Unregulated, anything corporate owned will be the mouthpiece of the corporate owned repug party.

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Response to elmac (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:06 PM

9. I'm on my county's platform committee and next time I have the opportunity,

I'm going to advance the need for a 21st Century Fairness Doctrine as part of our platform. If enough people do it, maybe we can get it on there.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:51 PM

19. Symbolic effort, but useful nonetheless

The Fairness Doctrine needs to be re-instated for the entire country, or else it won't mean much.

Fuck Reagan!

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:09 PM

23. That's a VERY good start. MAN do we need the Fairness Doctrine back!

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Response to calimary (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:28 PM

28. Which branch of the govt could do that

and how would they go about it? This is a top priority. We must get rid of Fux Ruse to even begin getting the US voters to listen to facts and not their propaganda, even if it is only via Fux and not other Repug media sources.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 01:56 AM

40. Well, from my understanding, which might of course be wrong,

Reagan pocket vetoed the Fairness Doctrine. Congress had reauthorized it, and he just...sat on it. So it died.

In short, the House and the Senate would both have to draft legislation, which would then be reconciled in the Conference Committee. The final product would then go to POTUS for signature and voila! A new Fairness Doctrine.

Thing is, lots of big money would be lined up against such an act. It would be opposed by the big 'news' networks, certainly by any Koch brothers organization, and generally by the big capitalists. None of them want the real truth to ever see the light of day. They'd rather spin it for higher ratings and more profits.

So..............uphill battle. Kind of a Sisyphus gig. But, you know, it is like the National Popular Vote initiative. If enough states pass that then we'll get rid of the electoral college.

Gotta start somewhere, I guess.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #40)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:40 AM

42. So I guess we would have to so get the majority in both chambers

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as well have a Dem prez which is a possibility in 2020 if tRump goes down in flames and takes the complicit and colluding GOP with him, we might be able to do it. Of course Fux Ruse is going to do everything possible to keep that from happening......SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #42)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:10 PM

52. Yeah, the big capitalists and Wall Street heads definitely don't want a government

of, by and for the people, because then they wouldn't be able to systematically steal from our treasury.

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Response to elmac (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:46 PM

18. You realize of course that the FD had no application to newspapers

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Response to onenote (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:00 PM

37. yes, but deregulation put many big newspapers

 

into the hands of a few, rightwing owners.

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Response to elmac (Reply #37)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:55 PM

38. what deregulation?

Can you give some examples, because I think you are mistaken.

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Response to onenote (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:32 AM

45. When they allowed a large media Corp to own more than 60% of any marketplace

I.e. newspaper, radio, television station

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #45)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:53 AM

47. the rule you refer to had no impact on newspaper ownership

First, no rule allows common ownership of more than 60 percent of the media (newspaper, radio, TV, cable system) in a market.

Second, the closest thing to the rule you describe is the radio/tv cross ownership rule, which, as adopted in 1970, barred any cross ownership of a radio and tv station in a market, but which was amended in 1999 to allow common ownership of 2 tv stations and 4 radio stations in a market that had at least ten independently owned media voices (tv, radio, newspaper, or cable). In markets with 20 independently owned voices, the limit was 8 (2 tv, 6 radio or 1 tv and 7 radio).

While the ten independent voices markets could have common ownership of 6 tv/radio stations, they would still have separately owned newspaper and cable, so it wouldn't even be 60 percent of the total voices in those markets.

More importantly, that rule had no impact on newspaper cross ownership. The cross ownership of a newspaper and a radio or tv station was banned in 1975 and that ban has remained in place since then (although late last year the FCC repealed it, a decision that is now in the courts).

In short, none of the changes in the FCC multiple ownership and/or cross ownership rules have had any impact on who owns newspapers.

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Response to onenote (Reply #47)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:56 AM

50. I'm am using deregulation as a seperate issue though it has been a major issue for both

 

broadcast and print. Deregulation of all media occurred from Reagan through Clinton. 50 media companies from 1983 were consolidated into only 6 by 2012. The illusion of choice where there is no choice, no progressive voice. Six media companies control 90% of what you read, watch and listen to. Non are considered a progressive voice.

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Response to elmac (Reply #50)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:18 PM

53. The claim that six companies control 90% of what we read, listen to and watch is an Internet myth

And the absurdity of that claim is readily apparent to anyone who gives it even a moment's rational thought.

The claim itself seems to have originated in a 2004 book in which it was asserted, with no support or explanation, that following five companies controlled 90 percent of the media: Time Warner, Disney, News, Viacom and Bertelsman (a German company).

The more commonly cited version seems to have appeared in around 2011-12 and listed the following six companies as controlling 90 percent of what we read, watch and listen to: Comcast, Disney, News Corp., Time Warner, CBS and Viacom. On its face it was a bizarre claim. For example, among the content cited as under CBS" control was the game show "Jeopardy". Why that' was significant enough to single out is anyone's guess, but the reality is that Jeopardy has been owned by Sony Pictures since 2002 and was never owned by CBS.

Today, many of these companies have grown or shrunk. Time Warner, which already had spun off its cable systems in 2009, sold its publishing (Time, People, Sports Illustrated, etc.) to Meredith Publishing. More recently, the Time Warner cable system properties were acquired by Charter and the Time Warner cable programming networks (HBO, TBS, TNT, CNN, etc) were acquired by ATT, which also acquired DirecTV, the largest multiple channel video programming distributor. News Corp has sold some of the Fox properties to Disney.

So its not even clear who the six companies that allegedly control everything are today or whether there are five or seven or a 1000.

But leaving all of that to one side, think about it. We listen to radio. Today there are around 15,500 radio stations in the US -- and virtually none of them are owned by any of the companies listed in the 2011-12 big six list. The largest owner of radio stations is iHeart Radio (which is in bankruptcy), with Cumulus second. Between them they own around 1300 of the 15,000 stations that are out there. Plus, there is SiriusXM with 32 million subscribers. And Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify etc.

And we read newspapers and magazines. Of the largest circulation magazines in the US, none are owned by any of the alleged big six companies. As mentioned, Meredith Publishing is probably the largest magazine publisher, with 5 of the top fifteen magazines by circulation. There are probably 75 or more magazines with over 1 million in circulation, and AAPR is the publisher of the magazine with the highest circulation (23 million). And newspapers. We read newspapers and apart from the Wall Street Journal, none are owned by any of the big six. The number of newspapers is dropping but there are still over 1000 and they have a wide range of owners. The biggest owner of newspapers is Gannett -- not on the list. Finally, we increasingly get access to printed media via the Internet -- not only through digital versions of newspapers, but through sites like Huffington Post, etc. etc.

And we watch all sorts of audiovisual content. Broadcast tv, cable networks, movies, youtube - all sorts. Netflix, not on anyone's list, has 57 million subscribers and Amazon has over 25 million. Comcast sits at around 24 million, which puts it behind ATT/DirectTV. Charter has around 16 million (or 22 million) depending on how you count. DishTV has nearly 17 million, HULU has 20 million. Verizon FIos has 4.6 million. And there are millions of other subscribers to smaller cable companies such as Altice, CableOne, Mediacom, and on and on. And what are focusing on anyway? The aggregators who provide access to multiple channels of tv or the companies that create the content? The amount of video content available for viewing, including but not limited to YouTube TV is astonishing. Millions are "cord cutting" because they can directly access video content without subscribing to a cable company or satellite company. And while four of the big six movie studios are affiliated with companies that own cable systems and/or tv stations, two (Sony and Paramount) are not.

Finally, how would one even go about measuring 90% of what we watch, listen to, or read? Its ridiculous. As is lumping together a show like "Jeopardy" with CNN. And even if the focus was only on "news" and "information" rather than "entertainment" and even if that distinction could be easily drawn (it can't), the data on newspapers and magazines and the virtually uncountable number of websites that could be considered news and information sources makes the notion that there are a handful of companies that control 90 percent of everything a total fiction.

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Response to onenote (Reply #53)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:50 PM

54. Well, we all know the truth is, too much power in too few hands, but

 

people in the biz or investing in said companies will never believe the truth.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:47 PM

7. And this.is after McCain stopped doing every Sunday show possible

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:56 PM

8. For way too long liberals have been bending over backwards for cons

The biggest snowflakes are Republicans. News media have been so damn afraid of hurting their feelings, as soon as they whine a little, the MSM ask them how high they should jump. In a desperate attempt to "prove" they not being unfair, they make sure to give them way more coverage and time to craft their talking points than the silent Democrats.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:24 PM

12. Truth

We journalists need to develop thicker skins.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:54 PM

20. Awesome quote from one of my all-time favorite journalists



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:10 PM

24. BOOM!!!!!

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:13 PM

26. Yes, Mike Royko was top notch. I wish he were still here.

Along with Molly Ivins. I'd add George Carlin and Robin Williams. Their take on what's been happening would be a hoot.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 01:58 AM

41. Well, yeah. That's for sure.

I saw an article that showed a bar chart depicting the numbers of interviews of Republicans versus Democrats, and the Repubs won hands down. The media interviews them far more than Dems. Nearly twice as often.

Talk about bias.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:14 PM

10. No surprise, look at all the Sunday political shows

 

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 05:50 AM

44. Took the words right out of my mouth. Gee I wonder why that is?

 

Could it be they know who their masters are?

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #44)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:43 AM

46. The system in place requires a deeply divided America, the elite class

 

Hates democracy and the will of the common people. So far they have had their way for decades.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:24 PM

13. Does this include Benedict Donald?

If it did, DU would be just as imbalanced.

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Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:13 PM

27. Welcome to DU, Senator Orrin Knox!

Yep. When I worked in local TV, I was always amazed at how the executive producer craved footage of a building on fire. Regardless what else was worthy of fitting into the evening newscast, those dramatic flames led the show.

He was always asking, rhetorically, "what do we see?" Blood and multi-car pile-ups would have fit the bill too.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:35 PM

16. surprise, surprise

Some of us have complained for years about the imbalance of coverage favoring Republicans, both in news articles and in LtE.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:46 PM

17. Causing some people to complain about Dems not speaking up enough.

When it's the MSM who is not reporting what Dems are saying.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:41 PM

30. THIS

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:07 PM

22. interesting how close the numbers are for both papers

what's up with that? Could it be that more republicans contact the papers?

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:10 PM

25. It's been that way for as long I can remember

When Bush was in power very few Democratic voices, when President Obama was in office and Dems controlled both houses , we only heard repukes on tv and and now it is repukes 90% of the time. Definitely the fix is in the media that only repuke voices can be heard.

Corporate media Only wants us to hear repukes voices. Democratic ones are too radical you know!

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:30 PM

29. If they did the Sunday news shows I am sure something similar or worse would show

The right wing noise machine is real

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:58 PM

31. Facts are facts.

They have probably interviewed more republicans simply because they say more outrageous things. 2-1 sounds about right on the stupid meter. Unfortunately, there is the issue of equal air time. I would love to see the fairness doctrine revived.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:05 PM

32. Perhaps because...Republicans control the Government?

For better or worse, the Party in power always gets more coverage.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:08 PM

33. My first thought.

If you are the majority party you control the committees and the legislation that will come up to a vote. Conversely you'll control the discussions that surround that legislation.

It sucks but it is what it is.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #32)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:39 AM

49. The rule is that when Democrats are in charge the opposition needs more coverage ...

to "balance things out." When Republicans are in charge they need more coverage because they are in charge. This is obvious.

President Obama got little media coverage. Hillary Clinton as a candidate for president got little coverage. Most Democratic media coverage is negative.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #32)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:29 AM

56. This degree of disparity though... something else is going on here

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:26 PM

34. It's 8:22pm US central time. I'm watching Rachel on MSNBC.

 

For the last 20 minutes, sheís been talking about Cohen, and constantly quoting 45, his lawyers, and his staff. I donít think sheís used a single quote by anyone in the Democratic party in this timeframe. Does that make her, and MSNBC also right-wing?

The shits have the office of the POTUS, Senate majority, and Republican majority. Frankly, right now, what they say holds more weight, more press-worthy, and I canít really relate them getting the most quoting in news stories as nefarious imo.

Heck, as iím watching this, she just quoted stuff out of the New York times, and it also had tRumpublicon quotes, but sure wasnít shedding them in any kind of positive light.

Sorry, but I read NYT articles just about daily, and I donít buy that theyíre lopsided towards them at all.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:48 PM

35. I've seen similar stories related to guests

on TV where the Republicans enjoyed significantly more frequent coverage than the Democrats

The Press/media is not "free". It's more largely owned and controlled by the GOP

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2018, 10:41 PM

36. Good finding to highlight.

This has long been a suspicion of mine. Good to see it confirmed so correction can begin.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 01:31 AM

39. I seem to remember that when Dubya

was in office, the networks showed the State of the Union speech, but not the Democratic response. I had to go to PBS to get it.

I complained, and got the runaround from the TV stations.

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Response to Nero Mero (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:50 AM

43. Yes! I saw that Judd Legum tweeted that..



WTFNYT & WaPo.. Don'tcha like what our Democratic Leaders have to say? Hmmmmm

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