Israeli soldier killed by Palestinian fire near Gaza
Source: ABC News
Israel pummeled Hamas targets in Gaza killing four Palestinians, mostly Hamas operatives, on Friday in a series of airstrikes after gunmen killed an Israeli soldier near the border, officials said.
The military said a "terrorist squad" fired at troops and one soldier was severely injured and later died of his wounds. He was the first Israeli military fatality in months of violence along the Gaza border.
After the Palestinian fire, Israel's military said it struck 15 Hamas positions including weapon warehouses, command and control centers and training facilities. It said "fighter jets commenced a wide-scale attack against Hamas military targets throughout the Gaza Strip." It added that "Hamas chose to escalate the security situation and will bear the consequences for its actions."
Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/palestinians-killed-israeli-fire-gaza-56713505
Aristus
(66,075 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)the first place...
hack89
(39,171 posts)wars are not suppose to be fair fights.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Hamas seems to have no problem trading the lives of Palestinians to spill some Jewish blood.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)After all, Israel is supposed to be a Jewish country. This was not the same as the Six-Day War.
Igel
(35,191 posts)Oddly, the lex talionis is (a) a legal statute and (b) applicable in only certain situations.
As for war, if you read the Torah it's okay to take slaves from the defeated population, and it's okay to wipe out every man, woman, and child, razing buildings and destroying any vestige of the population. Under certain circumstances.
EX500rider
(10,517 posts)....should the US have stopped after killing that many Japanese? (instead of the 2 to 3 million that were killed?)
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the TERRORIST hamas who keep begging for it?
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)No holding my breath
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)dembotoz
(16,734 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)people get from life what they give. If I swore to kill you and your entire family would treat me as a near and dear friend? How about if I punched you every time I saw you, would you say that it was merely a mistake?
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)dembotoz
(16,734 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)If you act uncivilized , then THAT is how others see you. Hamas has declared that they are going to remove Isreal from the face of the Earth.
If I, or someone else, made that declaration about your family, then attacked you, how would you feel?
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)That told me a lot
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)If it was YOUR family being murdered, what would YOU do?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)dembotoz
(16,734 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And vice versa for that matter.
That's part of where some of the dehumanization comes from, I think.
There have been occasional initiatives bringing Israelis and Palestinians together in a positive way, but they are few and far between.
The sad thing is that there have been so many well-publicized interactions that have been negative and/or violent.
Also depressing that the right wing appears to have taken hold throughout the region.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to say about terrorist hamas who is starting the trouble. For some here, even terrorists get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Israel. That's disgusting.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)your comment about the terrorist hamas being a large part of the problem. I'll wait. All I see is whining about trump and bibi and NOTHING about the terrorists. Nope - just went through your posts on this thread again and nothing about hamas - the elected leaders of gaza.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)about hamas being murderous terrorists. We're done here.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Which crime would that be? Defending itself? Or the imaginary "genocide" so many on the left trot out until they can't explain why the population continues to go UP in both the West Bank and Gaza? Words have meanings and that's why so many on the far left are ignored on this issue.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)A country is under attack and is fighting back - that's the reality. That's what happens when you vote terrorists in charge who steal all the aid and use it for tunnels and weapons. The Palestinians are and have been taken advantage of by their own leaders and all you want to do is ignore that and blame Israel as if that helps anything. Until you and the rest of the "blame Israel for everything" group want to face that reality, the Palestinians will continue to suffer and Israel will continue to move on and their economy will continue to grow.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)EX500rider
(10,517 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Using that ridiculous word genocide when the Palestinian population just continues to grow. This is why words lose meaning. And it's your own fault that both the far left and far right are ignored on this issue. Go ahead, think you're helping when you toss around meaningless words that have nothing to do with reality. That'll surely get them their own state.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)nothing to do with reality....
reality is Palestinians die and you don't give a damn
shame on you
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)There is a large swath of reality between ignoring a situation and using hyperbolic words that have no basis in reality. Why on earth should Abbas or Hamas jack shit for their own people when they can count on the far left to continue to ignore their behavior and blame Israel? So they'll continue to steal all the aid, line their own pockets, kill Israelis every now and then and go on their merry way. You're being used and can't even see it.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You keep mindlessly using juvenile nicknames and words that have no basis in reality. That'll surely get the Palestinians their state. It's really no wonder the far left has no credibility on this issue and why they get ignored.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)with absolutely zero idea of its meaning. You're only embarrassing yourself which suits me just fine.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)how a population that RISES each year is experiencing a genocide. Then I'll counter with what ACTUALLY happened in WWII and Rwanda. You go first. Or you could stop embarrassing yourself.
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)imagine that.... https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/daily-life-in-the-warsaw-ghetto
shame on your lack of morals
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)in the Warsaw ghetto. Just a mass killing (dictionary definition of when more than 4 are killed). And since that's where part of my family came from, I'm quite familiar with that. Perhaps you've heard of the concentration camps? Maybe not since you think that the only place people were killed was in Warsaw. Really, you should stop embarrassing yourself. It's getting hard to watch.
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dembotoz
(16,734 posts)On the surface, the reasons that Americans, Jewish and otherwise, cannot resist the resistance are fairly clear. For many, this seminal event offers a glimpse of hope, misguided as it may be, amid a torrent of despair. The various repetitions of the uprising, in its purest form of physical, heroic resistance, satisfies a desire for those of us who were not there in the abyss, to grasp on to something less horrific than systematic deprivation, torture, and mass genocide.
http://time.com/5245019/warsaw-ghetto-uprising-memory/
go support your evil doers i tire of your bullshit
dembotoz
(16,734 posts)as well...tho i doubt it
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)In Vietnam. It's in no way analogous to what Israel faces every single day. And you seem to think any other PM would lay down and allow Israelis to be killed. You couldn't be more wrong. I detest bibi but it's not because he's a strong defender of his country. Any PM would be doing the same thing.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Well, the neighborhood bully, hes just one man
His enemies say hes on their land
They got him outnumbered about a million to one
He got no place to escape to, no place to run
Hes the neighborhood bully
The neighborhood bully just lives to survive
Hes criticized and condemned for being alive
Hes not supposed to fight back, hes supposed to have thick skin
Hes supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in
Hes the neighborhood bully
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land
Hes wandered the earth an exiled man
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn
Hes always on trial for just being born
Hes the neighborhood bully
Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad
The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad
Hes the neighborhood bully
Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That hell live by the rules that the world makes for him
Cause theres a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac
Hes the neighborhood bully
He got no allies to really speak of
What he gets he must pay for, he dont get it out of love
He buys obsolete weapons and he wont be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side
Hes the neighborhood bully
Well, hes surrounded by pacifists who all want peace
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease
Now, they wouldnt hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep
Hes the neighborhood bully
Every empire thats enslaved him is gone
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon
Hes made a garden of paradise in the desert sand
In bed with nobody, under no ones command
Hes the neighborhood bully
Now his holiest books have been trampled upon
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health
Hes the neighborhood bully
Whats anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin, they say. He just likes to cause war
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed
Hes the neighborhood bully
What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers? Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill
Running out the clock, time standing still
Neighborhood bully
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Great song, great album.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)excellent taste in music.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)by Mr. Dylan. Meanwhile we continue to see far too many on the left who ignore what the REAL problems are (the Palestinian leadership) and just whine about Israel as if that solves anything at all.
cntrfthrs
(252 posts)how many indigenous Palestinians have been killed by Israel???