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Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:44 PM

New York's Health Department Plans to Recommend Legalizing Marijuana

Source: NYT

ALBANY — A study commissioned by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo will recommend that “a regulated, legal marijuana program be available to adults in the state,” the New York State health commissioner said on Monday.

The announcement by the commissioner, Howard Zucker, comes after a fast evolution in the thinking of Mr. Cuomo, a second-term Democrat who said as recently as last year that marijuana was a “gateway drug.”

In more recent months, however, Mr. Cuomo has said that “facts have changed” around the drug, and in January he commissioned a report with the mission of determining the consequences from legalization efforts in New Jersey and Massachusetts, and “what would that do to New York because it’s right in the middle.”

“We looked at the pros, we looked at the cons, and when were done, we realized that the pros outweighed the cons,” Mr. Zucker said, adding, “We have new facts.”

Read more: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/nyregion/new-york-marijuana-legalization.html

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EarthFirst Jun 2018 OP
Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #1
mpcamb Jun 2018 #11
xor Jun 2018 #12
cannabis_flower Jun 2018 #2
EarthFirst Jun 2018 #3
eggplant Jun 2018 #4
CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #6
eggplant Jun 2018 #7
CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #8
eggplant Jun 2018 #9
CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #10
TeamPooka Jun 2018 #5

Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:48 PM

1. The new facts being the realization that

legalization is a winning political issue. Meanwhile it remains a sad fact that last week they were all fine with prison for pot.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:47 PM

11. MJ is classified as a Schedule 1 drug, like Heroin.

Some have a death toll, others, not so much.

Drugs or Substances listed in DEA Schedule I may include:
Heroin (diacetylmorphine)
LSD (Lysergic acid diethylamide)
Marijuana (cannabis, THC)
Mescaline (Peyote)
MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine or “ecstasy”)
GHB (gamma-hydroxybutyric acid) - except formulations in an FDA-approved drug product sodium oxybate (Xyrem) are Schedule III
Ecstasy (MDMA or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine)
Psilocybin
Synthetic marijuana and analogs (Spice, K2)
Methaqualone (Quaalude)
Khat (Cathinone)
Bath Salts (3,4-methylenedioxypyrovalerone or MDPV)

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 11:35 PM

12. And if not prison, they had no problem with making life extremely difficult

via criminal background checks and ridiculous probation fees/requirements.

I'm very straight edge and don't do any drugs or have any criminal record, but I've see these counterproductive laws ruin people's lives. They help put these people in such desperate situations that it only increases their chances of going deeper in drugs and perhaps even criminal activities. I'm sure some places around the country handle this better by not destroying lives, but it doesn't seem to be the norm as far as I can tell.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:49 PM

2. The Facts..

have not changed, only Governor Cuomo's perception of the facts.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:50 PM

3. Well; right...

Tis the season!

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:33 PM

4. The "fact" is that the state will be losing out on a huge tax windfall without legalization.

New Yorkers will take their business out of state, and that just won't do. There's a ton of tax dollars waiting to be collected.

A similar change occurred in Mass some time ago regarding the state's "blue laws" (no liquor sales on Sundays) -- Liquor stores along the borders are allowed to stay open on Sundays, in order to keep the revenue inside the state.

Hopefully, the existing MMJ system will continue to exist, in order for patients to avoid the high taxes (as it were).

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:50 PM

7. Can you explain? nt

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Response to eggplant (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:52 PM

8. It is complex

and a big joke!

You shouldn't bother renewing a 215 card. Waste of $.





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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 05:41 PM

9. Wow, that sucks.

CO and MA (I believe) both exclude MMJ from sin taxes. NY waved the $50/year card fee pretty much from the start. You still have to pay a doctor for a recommendation (Rx) which isn't covered by insurance, though. (My wife's Dr. charged $300 for the visit, but I believe they offered a sliding scale for the poor.)

NY is still very restrictive of the formats one can get MMJ in. The dispensary we go to only offers tinctures, pre-loaded vape cartridges, and (now) capsules. I believe other places offer some edibles, but I think that's it.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Jun 18, 2018, 04:38 PM

5. Legalizing cannabis can save the world. nt

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