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Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:34 PM

Michigan Democrats Propose Lowering Voting Age to 16

Source: The Hill

Two Michigan state lawmakers have introduced a proposal that would lower the voting age to 16 for state elections. Rep. Yousef Rabhi (D) and Sen. David Knezek (D) introduced bills in both the House and Senate on Tuesday. Knezek told the Detroit Free Press that 16-year-olds should be able to vote if they are old enough to get a job and pay taxes.

"Young people are setting aside their differences and identifying issues they think need to change," he said, referring to the outpouring of student activism in the wake of recent school shootings. "And they can do everything to get that change except vote."

Changes to the U.S. and Michigan constitutions would be needed to lower the voting age, the Free Press noted, adding that a super majority in the state's House and the Senate would be required to change the state's constitution. That's not likely, it said, considering Republicans control both chambers.

Congress would also have to pass a measure and then send it back to the states for ratification. The nationwide voting age was last changed in 1971, from 21 to 18...more..

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/392295-michigan-democrats-propose-changing-vote-age-to-16



Students from Parkland announced in early June they'd be going on a nationwide bus tour to register young people to vote.

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Reply Michigan Democrats Propose Lowering Voting Age to 16 (Original post)
appalachiablue Jun 2018 OP
Wwcd Jun 2018 #1
appalachiablue Jun 2018 #3
Wwcd Jun 2018 #5
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #7
crazycatlady Jun 2018 #10
Wwcd Jun 2018 #11
DownriverDem Jun 2018 #2
appalachiablue Jun 2018 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #6
Ilsa Jun 2018 #9
crazycatlady Jun 2018 #12
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #13
appalachiablue Jun 2018 #15
appalachiablue Jun 2018 #16
Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2018 #20
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #8
ffr Jun 2018 #14
bluevoter4life Jun 2018 #17
truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #18
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #19

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:38 PM

1. If you risk your life just to attend school you should have the right to vote for your protection

 

Thats how I feel.

They are the next generation of leaders. They should become aware of the value of one vote.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:18 PM

3. Dying from uncontrolled US gun violence everywhere, old enough to Vote.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:27 PM

5. Yup. Do they want schools or armed encampments

 

Let them decide.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:55 PM

7. So you forgot Sandy Hook Newtown or you want to lower the age to 6? Use logic. No and no. . . nt

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:57 PM

10. Sadly some of the kids who lost their lives attending school are even younger than that

As much as I support expanding voting rights, I don't think they should be expanded to as young as the Sandy Hook kids were.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:10 PM

11. I believe 16 is appropriate. Start teaching civics in school. (Not the biblical version)

 

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:12 PM

2. I live in Michigan

and would love to see this happen!

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:19 PM

4. Absolutely, it's justified and necessary.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:53 PM

6. I oppose. The pre-frontal cortex (executive decision-making) not fully formed at 16. Eighteen better

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 03:42 PM

9. I tend to agree.

Everyone has rights that need protecting from birth on. I don't think we should be allowing first graders a ballot just because are worried about bullies, spelling bees, and velociraptors. Their rights need to be protected by their families and by society. It takes a village.

Besides, the age is lowered again, more voting power will go to heads of large households as they tell young Jack and Jill how to cast their votes.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:11 PM

12. Yet we allow people to operate a vehicle at 16

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:54 PM

13. With restrictions & higher insurance barriers & much greater rate of accidents. Besides,


... driving a vehicle has less executive decision making whereas voting is purely executive (frontal cortex).

The age 16 for driving a vehicle is kind of grandfathered in from when farming communities were a much greater proportion than today. Even so, it is of course useful for parents of high schoolers who often can't taxi them from one commitment to another.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:32 PM

15. Yes and people at 16 can work, pay taxes, operate a 3-ton vehicle and

marry in some situations and places in the US, although the latter should be 18 I to avoid exploitation and abuse of women.
Nobody's calling for 6 years old to vote! The prefrontal cortex doesn't fully develop until about age 25 according to most experts.

https://www.thenation.com/article/about-half-of-us-states-set-no-minimum-age-for-marriage/

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:33 PM

16. See #15.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:26 PM

20. Age doesn't always make it better. Example: Trump n/t

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 02:57 PM

8. Just the kind of distraction the RepubliCons love. Debate this while they move behind the curtain.


Get everyone indignant on both sides while the Cons push through more ultra-Conservative judges and repeal more safety regulations and fatten the 1%.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:19 PM

14. I think these teens might be really happy about that.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:33 PM

17. 26th amendment

Even if this does pass, the courts will strike it down. Michigan might be able to make a case and allow this for state-wide elections and not Presidential but ultimately I think the courts would not allow this.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:00 AM

18. If they can die for their country at the end of a military weapon

in school, they should certainly be able to vote.,.:

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 08:20 AM

19. I don't think that is a good idea.

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