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Wed May 30, 2018, 05:03 PM

Baptist church removing Jesus statue it deems too 'Catholic'

Source: Associated Press


Christina L. Myers, Associated Press
Updated 4:59 pm, Wednesday, May 30, 2018



LEXINGTON, S.C. (AP) — A Baptist church in South Carolina has voted to remove a statue of Jesus Christ because some believe it's too "Catholic" for their place of worship.

The hand-carved, 7-foot (2-meter) statue and accompanying reliefs showing scenes from the life of Christ have been displayed outside Red Bank Baptist Church in Lexington for a decade.

But Pastor Jeff Wright says the statue is being taken down this week. In a letter, Pastor said some congregants feel it is "Catholic in nature," and it needs to be removed to avoid confusion. He did not explain why. Wright didn't return telephone calls or respond to messages The Associated Press left in person with his staff Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Baptist-church-removing-Jesus-statue-it-deems-too-12953435.php#photo-15640922

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Reply Baptist church removing Jesus statue it deems too 'Catholic' (Original post)
Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
dhill926 May 2018 #1
FSogol May 2018 #3
durablend May 2018 #19
Girard442 May 2018 #2
OriginalGeek May 2018 #4
Solly Mack May 2018 #5
dameatball May 2018 #6
Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #7
tom_kelly May 2018 #14
Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #15
keithbvadu2 May 2018 #8
Fritz67 May 2018 #10
paleotn May 2018 #22
standingtall May 2018 #27
Maeve May 2018 #28
demosincebirth May 2018 #50
woodsprite May 2018 #51
Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #9
LuckyLib May 2018 #35
ashling May 2018 #11
ProudLib72 May 2018 #12
FSogol May 2018 #30
Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #39
Fla Dem May 2018 #13
Girard442 May 2018 #16
ProudLib72 May 2018 #31
OriginalGeek May 2018 #53
Doreen May 2018 #17
Raven123 May 2018 #18
left-of-center2012 May 2018 #20
rurallib May 2018 #32
Journeyman May 2018 #34
Drahthaardogs May 2018 #38
Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #40
standingtall May 2018 #21
pnwmom May 2018 #29
Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #41
standingtall May 2018 #42
Midnight Writer May 2018 #47
Mc Mike May 2018 #23
procon May 2018 #24
TlalocW May 2018 #25
blur256 May 2018 #37
TlalocW May 2018 #43
a la izquierda May 2018 #49
JNelson6563 May 2018 #26
Crash2Parties May 2018 #36
JNelson6563 May 2018 #48
keithbvadu2 May 2018 #33
DonCoquixote May 2018 #44
shadowmayor May 2018 #45
Hekate May 2018 #46
keithbvadu2 May 2018 #52

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:06 PM

1. need to get one holding a machine gun....

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #1)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:08 PM

3. and a football

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Response to FSogol (Reply #3)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:02 PM

19. With Trump's face on it

*cringes*

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:08 PM

2. Yep, when you make a graven image, got to get it right.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:08 PM

4. lol

the baptist church I was raised in thought catholics were unchristian idol-worshipers. This doesn't surprise me.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:09 PM

5. lololol

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:09 PM

6. This is dumb s**t but i guess it is their right to do it. It IS SC after all.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:14 PM

7. Personally I think it looks like Leon Russell.

... but what do I know, I'm a Jew.

Hey, wait, so was Jesus, right?

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #7)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:39 PM

14. He was a Jew "until God came down and said 'no more of that." - Archie Bunker n/t

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Response to tom_kelly (Reply #14)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:41 PM

15. Ah yes, Archie!!!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:17 PM

8. Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Catholics are not Christians

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

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Of course there are some Catholics who say Protestants are false Christians.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:24 PM

10. Well, of course!

Protestants worship Jesus Christ as the Son of God, while Catholics worship Jesus Christ as the Son of God! Completely different!!!

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:15 PM

22. That they do.

I was raised to believe Mormons were a cult spawned by satan. Well, they got part of that right and not the part about the guy with the horns and a pitchfork. Broken clock moment, I guess. They also fervently believe Catholics are going straight to hell, seeing as they're in league with the anti-christ and all. So much hate, simply because one group believes in a slightly different myth than another. Strange people, fundys of all stripes.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:22 PM

27. The moral majority was awful we do not need that

Wouldn't happen anyway and even if it did neither mainstream Protestants or mainstream Catholics are not going to accept Mormons or Jews who don't accept the deity of Christ as Christians.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:29 PM

28. The way it was explained to me is that

The Catholic Church accepts others baptized in the Christian faith as fellow believers as long as they are baptized in the trinitarian fashion, i.e., "In the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit", which includes most mainstream Protestants and the Orthodox. However, Mormons don't follow that pattern and are "properly" baptized if they convert (this may go for some Unitarians and a few others, I can't remember and it no longer really matters to me--treat people decently and I don't care what you believe-if anything- beyond that).

Of course, that hasn't filtered down to a lot of self-righteous 'believers'....

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Thu May 31, 2018, 01:34 AM

50. I guess these "charlies come lately" never read anything

about the history of Christianity

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #8)

Thu May 31, 2018, 06:28 AM

51. My daughter's friend's mom told me I seemed

Really nice for a Presbyterian. I was like “Thank you, I think.” We agree on a lot of things, with the exception of politics and abortion. She’s a Trumper. Their whole family is except for the one that is my daughter’s friend.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:23 PM

9. LMAO!! Christianity at it's best.

edit to add: the ones who asked for it to be removed "after more than a decade" must have been great tithers.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #9)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:59 PM

35. Exactly. You know all 6 of them threatened to withhold $$$ from the little envelopes.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:29 PM

11. No way Jesus was that tall .... unless ....

Scenes from the life of Christ include him playing Basketball

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:29 PM

12. Whenever I see an image of Jesus, the lines from Angela's Ashes comes to me

Teacher: "You don't see Jesus sportin' new shoes on the cross, do you? Who don't you see sportin' new shoes?"

Students: "Jesus, sir!"

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #12)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:01 PM

30. I think of this:

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Response to FSogol (Reply #30)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:49 PM

39. That was a GREAT show. Loved it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:34 PM

13. Well if they want an accurate portrayal of Jesus, try brown Middle Eastern Jew.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #16)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:16 PM

31. Chaim Topol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Topol

Sallah Shabbati is a wonderful movie. It was his best role.

&start_radio=1&list=RDW7HXNRux8h8

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #16)

Thu May 31, 2018, 01:04 PM

53. or this

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:46 PM

17. Now, do not worry your pretty little heads.

Next week they will put up a statue in it's place of donald trump.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 05:49 PM

18. Interesting timing

Wouldn't have anything to do with Pope Francis focusing on such earthly concerns such as climate change, income inequality, care for immigrants would it?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:05 PM

20. What makes it too Catholic ?

Look at those eyes.

He looks like he's about to jump off that ledge.
Or fly away?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #20)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:34 PM

32. look to me like he's flapping his arms in mid-flight

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #20)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:54 PM

34. The arms extended to his sides, evocative of the crucified Christ, make it a "Catholic" statue . . .

A Catholic cross is a crucifix, whereon the crucified Christ is depicted, while Protestant churches display an empty cross, signifying the resurrection.

I'm surprised they didn't opt to remove the 12 bas-relief placards as well, given as they depict the 12 Stations of the Cross, Christ's final journey to his crucifixion. Though perhaps those are used in some Baptist churches as well. I know they are in Anglican and Episcopalian.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #34)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:38 PM

38. The reason the corpa is on a crucifix and NOT the Protestant cross

Is because Catholics believe they practice the ancient sacrifice at the mass. One cannot separate the original Jewish tradition (before Rabbinical Judiasm) from the Ressurection. The Sacrifice and then the Ressurection together are inseparable.

To be blunt, the corpa is likely too Jewish in meaning for most Protestants.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #20)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:51 PM

40. "If you don't start following my teachings, I swear I'm gonna jump"

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:10 PM

21. Not sure why this is news

Last edited Thu May 31, 2018, 08:11 AM - Edit history (2)

there probably a million legitimate reasons to jump on this church, but removing a statue because it doesn't fit with their Church shouldn't be one of them. Most protestant churches don't believe in having statues of Jesus or Mary or of any other biblical figure.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #21)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:40 PM

29. It will be news to lots of rightwing Catholics who mistakenly thought evangelicals

respected them.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #21)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:51 PM

41. It was ok for over 10 years....why now? nt

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #41)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:57 PM

42. Was ok for them but

generally protestants churches don't like to have statues. Don't know why could be anti- Catholic mindset or maybe they want to shift their doctrine so that it is more in line with what protestants have historically believed.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #21)

Thu May 31, 2018, 12:23 AM

47. Of course Protestants are at odd with Catholics. That is why they are called PROTESTANTS.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:15 PM

23. I'm sure Bill Donohue will be along any moment to express his outrage

at this redneck nazi.

Because Donohue is a paragon of integrity and not at all a repuglinazi hypocrite.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:16 PM

24. If its authenticity they want, the next statue should look like a Palestinian guy. nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:17 PM

25. Several years ago, I visited my friend who was attending Baptist Bible College in Springfield, MO

He was 25 or 26, had gotten an associate's in radio broadcast technology and was going back and to BBC because he thought he would like to be a youth minister. He's religious but not in your face about it. I came in on Thursday, and I attended classes with him on Friday - one was Spanish, which was one of my majors. So I helped his group when the class was split up to do an in-class assignment. With my help, we finished first, and I got into the following conversation with one of the other people in the group.
Him: So where did you go to college?
Me: Did my undergrad work at Pittsburg State in southeast Kansas then some grad work at Oklahoma State.
Him: In Stillwater? Good ol' Eskimo Joe's (famous bar/restaurant).
Me: Oh, you know it?
Him: Yeah, I lived in Tulsa, and my friends and I would go there on weekends to support local bands we liked when they played.
Me: That's where I live now. Tulsa.
Him: What church do you go to?
Me: (Forgetting where I am) Oh, I don't attend church. I prefer sleeping in on Sundays.
* moment of tense silence *
Him: Well, if you're interested, there's one church on 121st and...
Me: That was your church, wasn't it?
Him: Yeah (starts talking about why I think I would like it)
Me: (How do I shut him up without revealing to everyone I'm essentially an atheist, which will just have the whole class after me? I GOT IT!) Actually, I do go to a church every now and then.
Him: Which one?
Me: St. Francis de Guadalupe - it's a Mexican Catholic church. I get to practice my Spanish, and there's normally a vendor selling yummy things from his bike/ice box contraption after services.
Him: (flatly) That's... nice.

My friend had been listening to the conversation the entire time trying not to laugh and complimented me on using Baptists' ingrain suspicion/dislike of Catholics to get the guy to stop bothering me.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #25)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:33 PM

37. I grew up just outside of Springfield

And met several people that went to BBC. They are taught early on from what I can tell to try to increase the flock. They ALWAYS asked me if I had a "home church." When I would say yes, that I had a hometown Presbyterian church, they would say well I feel like you would LOVE our church... they teach the gospel... Ugh. So much loathing from me. Especially now that I'm married to a woman minister and attend her very open and affirming UCC church. Religion doesnt have to be hateful. So much hate flows through BBC for anyone they don't feel "worthy." Its sad.

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Response to blur256 (Reply #37)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:06 PM

43. His whole time there was hilarious

We come from a small farming town in Kansas. When he was getting ready to go there, he was looking at all the requirements for their behavior and saw that men had to be clean-shaven. So he went to our hometown doctor, the only Jewish guy in town, and asked if he could write something that said he couldn't shave that often because of a skin condition (he liked to keep a couple days of stubble). Our doctor looked at him and said, "So you want me, a Jew, to lie to Baptists for you?" *pause* "Okay!"

He also ignored all the requirements for not watching certain shows, listen to particular radio stations, not go to movies, etc. He actually built himself a sound booth out of discarded material in his on-campus single-residence apartment, which he did not break down when he left.

The most fascinating thing about the campus is that everyone - at least the guys - you could go up to and ask them their high score, and they would know what you're talking about. Since there was so little that they could do in town, they would always go to Silver Dollar City where one of the rides was a boat trip through a tunnel where you had light guns that you used to shoot targets while on the ride. Everyone knew their high score.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #25)

Thu May 31, 2018, 12:57 AM

49. Reminds me of when I first moved from Los Angeles to OKC.

My neighbor came to welcome me to the community and invited me to adult Pentecostal worship with her. Now, I was raised very strict Catholic. But I'm agnostic and have been for a long time. I responded to neighbor lady that I was Catholic. The look on her face was something of a combination of having sucked on a lemon, while desperately trying to appear friendly.
She came over every Wednesday for about a month to invite me to fellowship. I usually hid in my closet with my dogs to pretend I was out/keep them quiet.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:20 PM

26. I've long wondered about this divide.

First off I am surprised so many Catholics support the wingers. Wingers hate anyone not exactly like them and that goes for Catholics too. Old hatreds thrive in religion, I guess cause they're so enlightened...? Anyhow, yeah, let's face it, not a WASP? Yes, we;ll take your support until we have total dominance, then you are expendable.

Suckers.,

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #26)

Wed May 30, 2018, 08:29 PM

36. Catholics can be every bit as winger, save for the racism.

Especially when it comes to money and misogyny (ie women's & lbgt equality). I've also met *plenty* of racist white American Catholics over the years, too...

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Response to Crash2Parties (Reply #36)

Thu May 31, 2018, 12:29 AM

48. Oh yes, I know!

And they're supporting those who share their hatreds. They just seem unaware that they are also hates for their faith.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 07:39 PM

33. Oftentimes, the method of religion is more important than the God of religion.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:08 PM

44. hey seam Hannity and Bill O reilly, hell even Steve Bannon

remember, this is what Mike pence and Franklin graham really think about you.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:35 PM

45. If you look in real close like

You can just tell that the bearded fella is concealing some wineskins under those robes. Because where ever four Catholics are gathered . . .

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:42 PM

46. Idjits

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2018, 07:21 AM

52. What color/race was Jesus? It depends on whose living room wall his picture hangs.

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