Mon May 21, 2018, 07:54 PM

Sanders to run as a Democrat -- but not accept nomination

Source: Politico

Bernie Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination in Vermont — but he won’t accept it if he wins.

The famously independent senator, who briefly joined the Democratic Party to run in the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary only to un-enroll later, officially announced Monday that he would seek a third term in the Senate this fall. He also said that he’ll pull the same maneuver that he did in his 2006 and 2012 Senate races: Running as a Democrat, declining the nomination when he wins and then running as an independent.

The move makes it virtually impossible for another Democrat to seek the party’s nod. And it allows Sanders to loom large in the party primary in August, but still preserve his independence.

But the move also comes at a time when Sanders supporters are pushing for changes to the presidential nominating process as part of the Democratic National Committee unity reform commission. One priority is to open up the party’s primaries to voters who aren’t registered as Democrats.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/05/21/bernie-sanders-democrat-independent-vermont-601844

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Sanders to run as a Democrat -- but not accept nomination (Original post)	Jose Garcia	May 2018	OP
WTF? NT	Shipwack	May 2018	#1
Think. He'd have done this if he'd won our presidential nom. in 2016.	brush	May 2018	#2
He does this in lots of elections it seems	WhiteTara	May 2018	#4
I'm sorry, but you'd be wrong	RhodeIslandOne	May 2018	#7
No, RIO	WhiteTara	May 2018	#19
"...the most popular Senator running for re-election this year IN HIS HOME STATE"!!!	George II	May 2018	#25
The Party should replace sanders on the ballot if he pulls this stunt	Gothmog	May 2018	#34
The Party has been going along with This Stunt	shanny	May 2018	#35
The Vermont party is making a major mistake	Gothmog	May 2018	#42
A "mistake" they have made before	shanny	May 2018	#43
Bingo. "Real" Democrats are fine with this.	thesquanderer	May 2018	#45
No, they're not. No "real" Democrats are OK with this	stevenleser	May 2018	#55
What silly game? I explained what I meant by "real Dems" in first line.	thesquanderer	May 2018	#61
Bingo is right!! Those Democrats you describe support Bernie as a Democrat	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2018	#76
That's what he's done the whole time.	BlueTsunami2018	May 2018	#3
"around here"? Around where?	George II	May 2018	#26
You mean besides the fact that he promised not to do it?	stevenleser	May 2018	#31
Link for those claims, please?	thesquanderer	May 2018	#46
Here you go	stevenleser	May 2018	#52
An interview comment from Jeff Weaver does not equal...	thesquanderer	May 2018	#62
Yes, it does equal a promise from Bernie Sanders. That's how that works, particularly since	stevenleser	May 2018	#66
So anything a Hillary spokesperson said during the campaign...	thesquanderer	May 2018	#70
Correct, that's how that works. Particularly if the candidate doesn't correct it.	stevenleser	May 2018	#73
Oh, right is right!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2018	#77
I think this is a duplicate thread of this one	flibbitygiblets	May 2018	#5
Go Home and Stay There, Bernie	luc mont	May 2018	#6
WEll Welcome To You luc mont	Me.	May 2018	#29
What does this even mean?	Bucky	May 2018	#8
It means nothing. The Vermont Democratic party has been fine with this since the early 90's	RhodeIslandOne	May 2018	#10
It's a big middle finger to anyone who cares about the Democratic Party	stevenleser	May 2018	#57
only democrats in the democratic primary. which real democrats will run in this primary nt	msongs	May 2018	#9
It's Really Past Time for Bernie to Make a Decision or Get Off the Potty	dlk	May 2018	#11
I didn't realizing using the Democratic platform wastes money.....	RhodeIslandOne	May 2018	#12
Using the Democratic Primary system and then throwing away the results sounds like a waste of money	SFnomad	May 2018	#17
Precisely	Sherman A1	May 2018	#38
Interesting logic. I'd vote for him in a primary again	truthisfreedom	May 2018	#13
Who are we to tell Vermont what to do?	left-of-center2012	May 2018	#14
IKR!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2018	#28
So everyone else should shut up? You're against free speech?	stevenleser	May 2018	#32
You're enjoying this, aren't you?	mac56	May 2018	#37
Thanks for the laugh !	left-of-center2012	May 2018	#50
Ok so you are taking it back and everyone's opinion on this is valuable	stevenleser	May 2018	#56
Oh hell no !	left-of-center2012	May 2018	#58
So you really are telling everyone else to shut up. Thanks for clarifying. nt	stevenleser	May 2018	#59
Oh hell no #2	left-of-center2012	May 2018	#60
Oh hell yes. If you can't defend your position, maybe your position is the issue. nt	stevenleser	May 2018	#68
Yup	Sherman A1	May 2018	#39
I'd pretend it's a good point too if my bias depended on it.	LanternWaste	May 2018	#71
I don't think discussion is akin to a command.	LanternWaste	May 2018	#69
What?	mcar	May 2018	#15
It looks to me like he puts a D after his name when he wants to use party resources.	CaptainTruth	May 2018	#16
Bammo Bingo	Me.	May 2018	#30
Shouldn't be allowed. Either you run as Democrat or you run independent.	iluvtennis	May 2018	#18
Then move to Vermont	Sherman A1	May 2018	#40
Or discuss it on a message board...	LanternWaste	May 2018	#72
Like	iluvtennis	May 2018	#82
Rank Choice Voting could be the answer.	Equinox Moon	May 2018	#20
I don't get the last paragraph - there have long been states with open primaries	karynnj	May 2018	#21
He wants all states to have open primaries. nt	pnwmom	May 2018	#22
The Vermont party should require its candidates to accept the nomination if they win. nt	pnwmom	May 2018	#23
As far as I am concerned if he has any presidential ambitions in 2020 to run as a Democrat, he can	still_one	May 2018	#24
Another Politico hitpiece. Why didn't this come up	KPN	May 2018	#27
You mean besides the fact that in 2016 he promised he was a Democrat to stay?	stevenleser	May 2018	#33
Did he? What did he say exactly and when?	KPN	May 2018	#36
as I remember Sanders exact statement- he said "Stay in the Democratic party"	Sunlei	May 2018	#47
Here you go	stevenleser	May 2018	#53
Didn't answer the question. What did Sanders	KPN	May 2018	#63
As with all politicians, their campaign staff relays promises from them. That is a Sanders promise.	stevenleser	May 2018	#67
Precisely	Sherman A1	May 2018	#41
Yup -- all political.	KPN	May 2018	#64
same as " in his 2006 and 2012 Senate races"	Sunlei	May 2018	#44
Which is more important?	melm00se	May 2018	#48
Labels. Without solidarity in the party you get Trump and George W Bush. nt	stevenleser	May 2018	#54
So lack of labels gave us Trump and GW?	KPN	May 2018	#65
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying.	stevenleser	May 2018	#74
Lol. Hurts my credibility?! That's rich.	KPN	May 2018	#75
By all means continue to play the straw man game. Nt	stevenleser	May 2018	#83
Well said!	Sherman A1	May 2018	#79
he is not a democrat	heaven05	May 2018	#49
spot on	onetexan	May 2018	#81
Thanks for nothing, Bernie. As usual. (nt)	Paladin	May 2018	#51
If true, he just lost one person who was open minded about him.	HopeAgain	May 2018	#78
Just remember that success, excellence, etc. wasn't enough to stop Bernie	Blue_Tires	May 2018	#80
I assume this is to avoid a three way race? -nt	Bradical79	May 2018	#84

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 08:00 PM

Shipwack (1,537 posts)

Sanders to run as a Democrat -- but not accept nomination

1. WTF? NT

2. Think. He'd have done this if he'd won our presidential nom. in 2016.

4. He does this in lots of elections it seems

7. I'm sorry, but you'd be wrong

19. No, RIO

25. "...the most popular Senator running for re-election this year IN HIS HOME STATE"!!!

34. The Party should replace sanders on the ballot if he pulls this stunt

35. The Party has been going along with This Stunt

42. The Vermont party is making a major mistake

43. A "mistake" they have made before

45. Bingo. "Real" Democrats are fine with this.

55. No, they're not. No "real" Democrats are OK with this

61. What silly game? I explained what I meant by "real Dems" in first line.

76. Bingo is right!! Those Democrats you describe support Bernie as a Democrat

3. That's what he's done the whole time.

26. "around here"? Around where?

31. You mean besides the fact that he promised not to do it?

46. Link for those claims, please?

52. Here you go

62. An interview comment from Jeff Weaver does not equal...

66. Yes, it does equal a promise from Bernie Sanders. That's how that works, particularly since

70. So anything a Hillary spokesperson said during the campaign...

73. Correct, that's how that works. Particularly if the candidate doesn't correct it.

77. Oh, right is right!!

5. I think this is a duplicate thread of this one

6. Go Home and Stay There, Bernie

29. WEll Welcome To You luc mont

8. What does this even mean?

10. It means nothing. The Vermont Democratic party has been fine with this since the early 90's

57. It's a big middle finger to anyone who cares about the Democratic Party

9. only democrats in the democratic primary. which real democrats will run in this primary nt

11. It's Really Past Time for Bernie to Make a Decision or Get Off the Potty

12. I didn't realizing using the Democratic platform wastes money.....

17. Using the Democratic Primary system and then throwing away the results sounds like a waste of money

38. Precisely

13. Interesting logic. I'd vote for him in a primary again

14. Who are we to tell Vermont what to do?

28. IKR!!

32. So everyone else should shut up? You're against free speech?

37. You're enjoying this, aren't you?

50. Thanks for the laugh !

56. Ok so you are taking it back and everyone's opinion on this is valuable

58. Oh hell no !

59. So you really are telling everyone else to shut up. Thanks for clarifying. nt

60. Oh hell no #2

68. Oh hell yes. If you can't defend your position, maybe your position is the issue. nt

39. Yup

71. I'd pretend it's a good point too if my bias depended on it.

69. I don't think discussion is akin to a command.

15. What?

16. It looks to me like he puts a D after his name when he wants to use party resources.

30. Bammo Bingo

18. Shouldn't be allowed. Either you run as Democrat or you run independent.

40. Then move to Vermont

72. Or discuss it on a message board...

82. Like

20. Rank Choice Voting could be the answer.

21. I don't get the last paragraph - there have long been states with open primaries

22. He wants all states to have open primaries. nt

23. The Vermont party should require its candidates to accept the nomination if they win. nt

24. As far as I am concerned if he has any presidential ambitions in 2020 to run as a Democrat, he can

27. Another Politico hitpiece. Why didn't this come up

33. You mean besides the fact that in 2016 he promised he was a Democrat to stay?

36. Did he? What did he say exactly and when?

47. as I remember Sanders exact statement- he said "Stay in the Democratic party"

53. Here you go

63. Didn't answer the question. What did Sanders

67. As with all politicians, their campaign staff relays promises from them. That is a Sanders promise.

41. Precisely

64. Yup -- all political.

44. same as " in his 2006 and 2012 Senate races"

48. Which is more important?

54. Labels. Without solidarity in the party you get Trump and George W Bush. nt

65. So lack of labels gave us Trump and GW?

74. Yes, that's exactly what I am saying.

75. Lol. Hurts my credibility?! That's rich.

83. By all means continue to play the straw man game. Nt

79. Well said!

49. he is not a democrat