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7962

(11,841 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:02 PM May 2018

Pope Francis tells gay man 'God made you like this and loves you like this'

Source: SunUK

POPE Francis has told a gay man that God loves him during a private meeting, it has been claimed.

In a private dialogue, the Pontiff is understood to have told Juan Carlos Cruz, a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of Catholic priests, that God loves gay people and it is fine to be homosexual.
The comments are the most striking public acceptance about homosexuality ever made by a head of the Roman Catholic Church.

The remarks were made during a private meeting at the Vatican between the pair, in which the Pope offered a heartfelt apology.

Read more: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6337719/pope-francis-gay-man-god-loves-you/



RW "evangelicals" heads will blow with anti-catholic rants....
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Pope Francis tells gay man 'God made you like this and loves you like this' (Original Post) 7962 May 2018 OP
RWers think they're more Catholic than the Pope IronLionZion May 2018 #1
It's definitely shaking up the Curia (ironically enough) sandensea May 2018 #2
Praise the Lord shenmue May 2018 #3
I wish that was true. LiberalFighter May 2018 #4
There is also evil. And "free will". 7962 May 2018 #6
Yeah, using the Pope's "logic", God made the monsters too. progressoid May 2018 #7
God doesn't make monsters Cold War Spook May 2018 #8
Gives me hope PackerBacker May 2018 #5
God has evolved Matthew28 May 2018 #9
Key words: "it has been claimed." Liberalagogo May 2018 #10
But he also believes that he cannot marry, cannot have sex, and is disordered. NYC Liberal May 2018 #11
If the Pope keeps this up, the Repubilcans are going to Primary him n/t SFnomad May 2018 #12
It's been a while since Pope Prettywords was in the news. Crash2Parties May 2018 #13

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
1. RWers think they're more Catholic than the Pope
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:24 PM
May 2018

and have already claimed that he's too liberal and has no authority, etc.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
2. It's definitely shaking up the Curia (ironically enough)
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

Particularly those of the right-wing, Opus Dei persuasion.

Since becoming pope, Francis has definitely evolved on the issue of LGBT rights, as he was opposed to President Cristina Kirchner's legalization of same-sex marriage in his native Argentina as Archbishop Bergoglio in 2010.

The Curia no doubt expected him to remain opposed to gay rights as pope - and they no doubt hate him for not doing so.

Again, ironically enough.

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
4. I wish that was true.
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:47 PM
May 2018

Because if there really was a god there wouldn't be the monsters that claim to be human beings like Trump, Oliver North, Pence, and many others.

progressoid

(49,969 posts)
7. Yeah, using the Pope's "logic", God made the monsters too.
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:26 PM
May 2018

Trump, Pence, Kim Jong-un, Kenye.

God's track record isn't really all that great.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
8. God doesn't make monsters
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:45 PM
May 2018

and he doesn't make heroes. He gave us choice otherwise we would just be cattle.

PackerBacker

(5 posts)
5. Gives me hope
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:15 PM
May 2018

This gives me hope for the future.
Compassion and Love have lost their way; I'm hopeful that our next generation will be able to bring it back.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
10. Key words: "it has been claimed."
Mon May 21, 2018, 05:07 PM
May 2018

I'll believe it when I hear the Church make a public statement on it.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
13. It's been a while since Pope Prettywords was in the news.
Tue May 22, 2018, 12:00 AM
May 2018

He speaks vaguely and once again people attribute what they want to hear. That's also how partially how people treated Trump, too.

The Other Pope said that yes, people are born gay and that's okay. That's completely in line with some of the more liberal/science accepting positions within the Vatican. What he did not say was that it's ever okay to *be* gay. To flirt, fall in love, get married and/or have sex with someone of the same gender. That's still strictly prohibited and none of his vague words counter it.

He did the same thing with a trans man a couple years ago...and then turned around within weeks and reiterated how they are a threat to humanity equal to nuclear weapons or one of his other anti-LGBT statements. I forget which one it was but it was the same "gender ecology must be protected" that's been the Church position since the 1980's. This is his pattern: Say something nice that gets promoted by the Vatican PR dept & then within a month say the opposite speaking to a group of devout Catholics & without the general media press release.

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