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Mon May 21, 2018, 11:13 AM

 

Supreme Court Decision Delivers Blow To Workers' Rights

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Source: NPR

In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote margin, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.
Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said that the 1925 Federal Arbitration Act trumps the National Labor Relations Act and that employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis ó and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

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Reply Supreme Court Decision Delivers Blow To Workers' Rights (Original post)
elmac May 2018 OP
Ligyron May 2018 #1
madaboutharry May 2018 #2
ck4829 May 2018 #3
madaboutharry May 2018 #7
bronxiteforever May 2018 #13
Plucketeer May 2018 #33
TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #4
elmac May 2018 #6
TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #8
Pepsidog May 2018 #28
mikeysnot May 2018 #34
justhanginon May 2018 #5
aggiesal May 2018 #11
Alethia Merritt May 2018 #9
aggiesal May 2018 #10
turbinetree May 2018 #14
mikeysnot May 2018 #35
turbinetree May 2018 #12
Plucketeer May 2018 #37
Ohiogal May 2018 #15
Calista241 May 2018 #16
elmac May 2018 #19
dajoki May 2018 #17
mountain grammy May 2018 #18
leftynyc May 2018 #20
DFW May 2018 #30
mikeysnot May 2018 #36
benld74 May 2018 #21
riversedge May 2018 #22
dlk May 2018 #23
Maxheader May 2018 #24
Calista241 May 2018 #25
The Mouth May 2018 #31
SummerSnow May 2018 #26
Me. May 2018 #27
CrispyQ May 2018 #29
WhiteTara May 2018 #32
muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #38

Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:17 AM

1. Every day brings more successful RW corporate attacks on our citizenry.

And the morons voted for it.

I wonder if we'll ever undo the damage they are causing. Certainly not in my lifetime.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:17 AM

2. Elections have consequences.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:18 AM

3. Especially sham elections

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #3)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:25 AM

7. Yep.

Neil Gorsuch sits in a stolen seat.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #7)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:36 AM

13. +10000000

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #7)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:23 PM

33. He needs his vacuuous head

 

jammed into a toilet seat. Water-seated!

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:19 AM

4. Another reason

 

I'd probably never choose to move back to the US. Workers are second class citizens in America.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #4)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:23 AM

6. If I could

 

I would move as far away as possible. Things are going to get much, much worse.

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Response to elmac (Reply #6)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:28 AM

8. Agreed

 

My wife and I say to each other how lucky we are on a near daily basis.

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Response to TimeSnowDemos (Reply #8)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:50 PM

28. Me too. Never thought I would be ashamed to live in America.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #28)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:23 PM

34. Bush did it for me...

trump and his ilk just slammed the door shut.

My friends work for WHO in Switzerland, need to send them my resume and brush up on my German.

I'm not giving up, this shit can be undone by legislation but we need to control all three houses.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:23 AM

5. I guess the five corporate slugs voted much like they always do.

Like so many of our protections as common citizens, the corporate flunkeys appointed by conservative administrations could care less about rights and more about the dismantling what few protections we as regular citizens still have. Corporate rule on steroids.
At some point we should consider renaming the "Supreme Court" to better describe their value to society as a whole.

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Response to justhanginon (Reply #5)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:32 AM

11. Corporate court? n/t

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:28 AM

9. Elections have consequences!

Slick, corrupt, and evil politicians will use your own prejudices against you and make you feel like you accomplished something special. Easy to keep fooling fools.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:30 AM

10. Stop signing arbitration agreements ...

It strips our rights to fight anything in the courts.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #10)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:40 AM

14. This court has legalized blackmail, you can not get a job without signing it, this legalized form

of discrimination is a further ally of this John Roberts racist jerk and the other four jerks sitting on this bench.....................they don't care, and people need to get out and vote................they are making this country into a third rate state, and have been doing it since 1970, and really putting the screws on the workers since the 1980's ..........................


The courts are determining your wage, health care, bargaining rights, clean food water, air and status in this country.................it's a simple fact of economics.......................and the national news media is normalizing this jerk being on the bench...................he is making rulings that are in my opinion illegal......................


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Response to aggiesal (Reply #10)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:24 PM

35. I had to sign one to buy a friggin car.

I told them they will be in a world of hurt if it comes to that.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:33 AM

12. This fucking asshole needs to be IMPEACHED...................he was put on the bench

in VIOLATION of the CONSTITUTION..........................end of story, this normalization is just fucked up, and not once in the NPR piece say anything like you know what this asshole really should not be on this bench, and this ruling by this asshole is really fucking illegal ......................nope




FUCK YOU John Roberts.......................your a complete fucking asshole..................you said in your hearing that you would abide by precedents.......................fucking LIAR, why don't you and your cronies just name it Corporations are US Courts


I bet your five right wing assholes are chopping at the bit for Janus

https://www.afscme.org/now/janus-for-leaders


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Response to turbinetree (Reply #12)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:28 PM

37. And there's really only ONE person

 

who regularly speaks publicly against all these destructive moves. ONLY ONE! FOR WHICH they're labeled as a Grandstander.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:47 AM

15. That seat should belong to Merrick Garland!

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #15)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:51 AM

16. Merrick Garland, while certainly better than Neil Gorsuch

is definitely not a Ruth Bader Ginsburg clone. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have been on the side of the 5-4 majority in this case.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #16)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:05 PM

19. and the supreme court gave us citizens united

 

which gave us the fascists, which keeps the court fascist, a very troubling cycle. Democrats can never compromise with these monsters because it always goes bad for us.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 11:59 AM

17. This is absolutely sickening n/t

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:05 PM

18. "Egregiously wrong"

What RBG said in her dissent.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for the four dissenters, called the majority opinion "egregiously wrong." She said the 1925 arbitration law came well before federal labor laws and should not cover these arm-twisted, "take-it-or-leave it" provisions that employers are now insisting on.

The inevitable result, she warned, is that there will be huge underenforcement of federal and state statutes designed to advance the well-being of workers.

"[T]he edict that employees with wage and hours claims may seek relief only one-by-one does not come from Congress," Ginsburg writes. "It is the result of take-it-or-leave-it labor contracts harking back to the type called 'yellow dog,' and of the readiness of this Court to enforce those unbargained-for agreements. The FAA demands no such suppression of the right of workers to take concerted action for their 'mutual aid or protection.'"

She urged Congress to correct the court's elevation of the arbitration act over workers' rights.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:13 PM

20. Gee - I wonder

 

if all the morons who said Hillary was just as bad still think that considering who wrote this decision. May every single one of those morons suffer for the rest of their miserable lives.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #20)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:16 PM

30. I remember saying it--it's the Supreme Court, stupid.

All the people who dissed Hillary after the convention, for whatever reason, and didn't vote for her--I wish the direst consequences of their vote to be visited upon them. Lost rights, lost health coverage, lost jobs and lost government interest in their situation. The misery they have perpetrated on the rest of the country is and will be incalculable.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #20)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:25 PM

36. stop listening or reading russians bots...

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:20 PM

21. This is so effin wrong it hurts to read

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:22 PM

22. If we had a Congress concerned with workers, they would legislate a law in their favor but we

only have a corporate loving congress now. #FlipitBLUE is a must to survive in NOV>

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:28 PM

23. We are More of a Corporate Autocracy Than a Democracy

Corporations rule!

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:37 PM

24. Neil Gorsuchs'

tongue must be all shiny from lickin shoes..What did you get for
deserting amercun workers neil? harvard for all your kids?


"[T]he edict that employees with wage and hours claims may seek relief only one-by-one does not come from Congress," Ginsburg writes. "It is the result of take-it-or-leave-it labor contracts harking back to the type called 'yellow dog,' and of the readiness of this Court to enforce those unbargained-for agreements. The FAA demands no such suppression of the right of workers to take concerted action for their 'mutual aid or protection.'"

She urged Congress to correct the court's elevation of the arbitration act over workers' rights.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:38 PM

25. My problem with this case is that the majority opinion sounds plausible.

They challenged that the National Labor Relations Act (written in 1935) doesnít address arbitration.

And the Federal Arbitration Act (written in 1925) explicitly does address it.

The argument was over which Act is relevant, and the Supreme Court is doing what itís supposed to do by determining which laws apply.

The majority basically said that they disagree with the law, but that the judiciary cannot overrule the will of the legislature.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #25)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:21 PM

31. My take, too

Massive respect to RBG, but it seems the ruling was pretty much a narrow thing about which law said or covered what.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

26. WTF???

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

27. 1925 Law? Seriously?

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 12:52 PM

29. McConnell recently bragged that he's making "generational changes" to the judiciary.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:21 PM

32. They dug deep for that one. I note that it's before

the Great Depression.

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Response to elmac (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2018, 01:45 PM

38. Locking - duplicate thread

of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142063740 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.

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