Trump: I'm hoping for new Iran deal that is 'better for them'

[DonViejo]

Source: NBC News




“I hope to be able to make a deal with them, a good deal, a fair deal — a good deal for them, better for them,” Trump said at an Indiana campaign rally.

by Jonathan Allen / May.10.2018 / 9:54 PM ET

ELKHART, Ind. — Two days after withdrawing from a nuclear deal with Iran, President Donald Trump said Thursday that he wants to pursue a new accord with Tehran that is better for the U.S. and “better for them.”

“I hope to be able to make a deal with them, a good deal, a fair deal — a good deal for them, better for them,” Trump said at a campaign rally. “But we cannot allow them to have nuclear weapons. We must be able to go to a site and check that site. We have to be able to go into their military bases to see whether or not they’re cheating.”

The emphasis on the possibility of reaching a new agreement with Iran comes as critics — including former President Barack Obama — have noted that Trump’s decision to restore sanctions on Iran could hurt his chances of getting North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons.

His remarks on a way forward with Iran could send two signals to Pyongyang in advance of a historic June 12 Singapore summit between the U.S. president and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un: that he’s not totally abandoning the idea of a peaceful resolution with Tehran — and that he’ll use all of his leverage in negotiating with North Korea.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-i-m-hoping-new-iran-deal-better-them-n873261

[Iliyah]

1. STFU

How many will die you asswipe

[olegramps]

19. The deal he is talking about is a "very, very, very, beautiful Trump hotel in Tehran."

[Botany]

2. Trump: I'm hoping for new Iran deal that is 'better for them'

This is from the Onion isn't it?

BTW Sec. Ernie Moniz* who wrote a lot of the deal was and still is
the very best in the world @ understanding the issues involved.


*B.S. Boston College Physics, PhD Theoretical Physics, Professor of
Physics including nuclear physics M.I.T., Chair Dept. of Physics M.I.T.
and 30 years + nuclear non proliferation work.

https://www.energy.gov/contributors/dr-ernest-moniz

[karynnj]

8. Moniz led the design of the monitoring system

It is designed to monitor EVERY step that goes into creating a nuclear bomb, plutonium or uranium. This starts at bringing in uranium ore or mining it.

I would say that Moniz's work informed everything written into the deal that was negotiated and written by diplomats and experts including on the US side, Wendy Sherman. From accounts of the various diplomats, the entire process was led by Kerry and Zarif - who both faced hardline opposition at home - pushed to never let the negotiations end without a next meeting and various things that the diplomats were to get resolution on.

One really good story from this is how well the team worked with each other, allowing each to do their part supported by the others. The long term friendship of Kerry and Moniz, who had long been an informal adviser to Kerry at least back to 2004 may have helped in setting those dynamics. I would imagine that over the two years of negotiations - where until they got a deal, even Obama gave them less than a 50/50 shot- the strength of the relationships as well as the competence of that team allowed them to support each other.

Having read articles about that team, where in the depleted State and Energy departments will the Trump administration find similar people. I suspect that either we will hear this JUST until the NK summit and any negotiations happen or that they will take the existing deal and claim they made HUGE changes -- that will in reality by nothing other than stopping the lies on the deal - and maybe a side deal on missiles added.

[Botany]

9. Both Kerry and Moniz showed what it is like when adults do things.

Under the protocols of the deal Iran lost the right to have breeder reactors (plutonium)
or certain kinds of centrifuges that could make the highly concentrated U 235 that is
needed to make a nuclear bomb. Trump's lies about it being a bad deal are just lies
nothing more nothing less.

[Blue_Tires]

18. I keep trying to tell y'all

Trump isn't interested in any new "deal"... He's going to impose an arbitrary and completely unworkable set of demands on Tehran (regardless of whether or not they agree to them), and when they can't fulfill them he'll start making the case for war...

Bolton and BiBi have been jerking off to Iran war fantasies for decades and now there's a president dumb enough to allow it to happen...

[olegramps]

20. Right on. This is the true purpose behind this facade.

Netanyahu and Trump are joined at the hip like two evil ghouls with the Imp Bolton dancing in glee. This is the Neocons dream that will only result in another nightmare. This was the primary reason for dragging us into war in Iraq as a primary step to destroying Iran. We are on the verge of being embroiled once again basically in religious wars. This is a struggle between Jews, Shia and Sunnis for domination of the Middle East that has been going on since 600 C.E. Then throw in the Kurds and Christians in the mix to boot. The only ones who were ever able to dominate the Middle East have been as series vicious ruthless tyrants who ruled with absolute authority and who imposed peace with the point of a sword.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Their new deal will be a nuclear arsenal

[zipplewrath]

4. Hope is not a strategy

I have a boss that loves to say that. It means of course, you must have a PLAN, not just a hope. What is his proposal? Can he even DEFINE a "better" plan? (By the way, isn't he supposed to "Be Best"?) A commentator yesterday was making the point that Trump is headed off to Korea to try to negotiate a deal there and if he agrees to a "better" deal with Korea, it would presumably have better conditions than those with Iran. He rattled off all of the large features the NK would have to agree, that Iran DID agree. It sounded absurd. It sounded absurd that Iran agreed, and yet they did. Trump thinks he can exceed that?

Sad!

[Frustratedlady]

5. How can anyone deal with Iran with Trump calling the shots? Hot...Cold...Hot!

He pulls out of the Iran deal then introduces sanctions. Now, he wants to renegotiate? The rest of the countries in this situation are probably about to tell him to keep his nose out of Iran's business. He pulled out, so why does he have any right to renegotiate? What can other countries do as far as trade? Sell...Buy...Ban? That way today...different tomorrow?

He's got them shooting at each other...Israel and Iran, today. Who will be involved, tomorrow?

Kim Jung Un is going to drop out of the meeting if he continues to be so spastic and undependable. You get both spastics in the same room and all hell will break loose. Trump will insult Kim and we'll have a sumo wrestling match going.

He's getting loonier by the hour. Those rallies just boost his ego `til you'd think his chest would explode. He scared me before, but he is really scaring me now.

[Docreed2003]

6. In other words, he had no fucking clue what was in "the deal"

Because "the deal" actually addressed all of the issues he says he wants the "new, better deal" to address

[procon]

7. And why would the Irans believe him?

Why would anyone believe someone whose best idea to renege on an existing agreement and demand to start all over from scratch rather than building on what was already working?

[lark]

10. Yet another lie from the premier liar in this country.

It's the one thing he's really good at, totally sucks at everything else. He's doing this to raise the price of gas for Russia at Putin's demand and to divert from his criminal, traitorous doings becoming public.

[neohippie]

11. Maybe he means like his own Trump Iran deals

Trump has deals with ties to Iran's revolutionary guard, but he's apparently not sanctioning those companies

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...didnt-disclose

In response to decades of U.S. and global sanctions, the Revolutionary Guard has created hundreds of private companies that work as a loose network, allowing the Revolutionary Guard to conceal the movement of sanctions-evading money into and out of Iran, purchase crucial components for weapons of mass destruction, and evade sanctions in other ways. These companies follow a similar pattern: they are, typically, construction or engineering firms run by veterans of the Revolutionary Guard that appear, to the outside world, as independent companies but act under the direction of Guard leadership.

After Trump’s speech, the Treasury named Shahid Alamolhoda Industries, Rastafann Ertebat Engineering Company, and Fanamoj as, essentially, tools of the Revolutionary Guard. Strikingly, the Treasury did not name Azarpassillo, an Iranian firm with a leadership made up of lifelong Revolutionary Guard officers. Azarpassillo’s leaders have been named by U.S. officials as likely money launderers for the Revolutionary Guard and, through their international construction operations, the company is ideally suited to provide W.M.D. components.

Azarpassillo has another interesting connection; one of its apparent partners in money laundering, the Mammadov family of Azerbaijan, was also, until quite recently, in business with the Trump Organization. In fact, for the entire Presidential campaign, the Trump Organization knew that it was actively involved with a company that was likely laundering money for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. This is not a wild conspiracy theory; it is an acknowledged fact, confirmed by Alan Garten, the Trump Organization’s general counsel, and not disputed by the White House or any of the people involved. Ivanka Trump directly oversaw the relationship with the Mammadov family, led by Ziya Mammadov, a man whom American diplomats have called “notoriously corrupt even for Azerbaijan.”

[duforsure]

12. They would be very wise

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Do not believe anything con man rump promises them, especially that it'll be good for them. He's a serial liar, like he's done to Americans telling them his health care plan would be better and they're now facing premiums going up 90% or more in the next 2-3 years. He lied to us, and will you too. He could care less about the people in iran, that's why he said we should be torturing people, even their wife and children. Don't trust him, you'll be very sorry like the many who screwed up and did. he never keeps his word, just research how he's done everyone who's tried to work with him. He has a long history going back on deals he's made.

[SunSeeker]

13. Here's the "new" deal:

Same as Obama's deal, but we'll call it the Trump deal.

See how much better that is for both sides?

[harun]

25. Pretty much

They'll just add a back room rider to the deal that he get's some sweet land deals to build on in Iran.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. There won't be a new Iran deal, not one that includes the USA. Making America Go Alone, again. . .nt

[Freethinker65]

15. we had an agreement that did that. Took years of diplomacy

[KY_EnviroGuy]

16. Trump's gotta have a boogie man and Bolton is his deputy sheriff.

From what I understand, he has shit in his mess kit with this one. If he thinks his people will sit at a negotiating table like they did with Kerry, he'll be sadly disappointed. The Iranians don't give a damn about his bluster - no more than Putin or baby Kim does.

We're going to get screwed royally over this, from Europe's dealing with trade deals to our involvement in Syria and Iraq. This is nothing but Neocon City Version 2, and they're not going to be happy until the entire Middle East is one big pile of radioactive rubble.

This pResident is a flaming idiot and extremely dangerous to the world.

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[KG]

17. another one of 'just say anything' lies

[Corgigal]

21. You never read the last one

Fat ass, so you don't know what you violated. However, even if you read it, you wouldn't understand it.

[haele]

22. "Them" being Russia and any Iranian money launderers who are willing to invest in Jarad's buildings.

He could give a flying f*** about regional stability. He'll throw bones to Bolton, the regional Oil kings, and Bibi, but it's all about his family money and his Russian backers.

Haele

[matt819]

23. Hang on just one darn second

In my day, we were supposed to get the best deal for us and one that our adversary would (have to) agree to.

As the saying goes - Henry Clay, Winston Churchill, whatever - A really good compromise is the one that leaves both sides equally
dissatisfied.

Now, unless the Iranians agree to remain in the deal with the Europeans, they might view this move as open season on fucking with the US - again.

[turbinetree]

24. Let me now say with this LIE we have the liar has saying over 3020+ and counting........

and as a added flavor to this megalomaniac delusion, what do you think was sitting in Iran checking on what Iran was doing, Inspectors, neutral agreed upon inspectors............but this freak is so fucking paranoid in his ego, that he said this..................


“I hope to be able to make a deal with them, a good deal, a fair deal — a good deal for them, better for them,” Trump said at a campaign rally. “But we cannot allow them to have nuclear weapons. We must be able to go to a site and check that site. We have to be able to go into their military bases to see whether or not they’re cheating.”


You really are as dumb as a box of rocks, do you like to hear yourself talk................did you re-read this comment and to think you have access to nuclear codes...............


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

[stonecutter357]

26. I'm hoping trump gets/has big ass hemroids !

[FloridaBlues]

27. There won't be any deals it already happened

And we are starting to see the effects in higher gas prices which in the long run will make everything else price wise go up, just like it always has when gas prices rise.

[Vinca]

28. This guy is so full of shit. He gives any outhouse a run for the money.

Iran is laughing their asses off. They got their embargoed money back and now they don't have to comply with any agreement. (Trump, of course, keeps saying they got taxpayer money. He's a no nothing fool.)

[meadowlander]

29. "President of US seeks better arms deal for Iran"

Well OK then. Has he reached the stage of dotage where he's no longer aware of which country he's the President?

[McKim]

30. Sounding Nice But Prepping for War

I don’t believe this for a minute. Trump is lying and making an effort to sound conciliatory. Bolton is doing the same to try to quell fears of war, then, Boom! They will make the war happen just in time for the Mueller investigation to blow sky high!