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Thu May 10, 2018, 09:12 AM

The Trump administration wants to unwind child labor laws

Source: Yahoo! Finance


The Fair Labor Standards Act prohibits anyone under the age of 18 to work in “hazardous occupations.” But President Donald Trump’s Department of Labor is working to relax these protections for young workers, according to draft documents obtained by Bloomberg Law.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-administration-wants-unwind-child-labor-laws-194638209.html

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Reply The Trump administration wants to unwind child labor laws (Original post)
atreides1 May 2018 OP
aggiesal May 2018 #1
notdarkyet May 2018 #2
AmandaRuth May 2018 #20
ChicagoRonin May 2018 #3
C_U_L8R May 2018 #4
barbtries May 2018 #5
potone May 2018 #6
appalachiablue May 2018 #7
appalachiablue May 2018 #8
appalachiablue May 2018 #29
lastlib May 2018 #30
appalachiablue May 2018 #31
infullview May 2018 #9
NastyRiffraff May 2018 #10
Bayard May 2018 #11
lark May 2018 #12
Javaman May 2018 #13
JustAnotherGen May 2018 #14
Blue_Tires May 2018 #15
dhill926 May 2018 #16
not fooled May 2018 #17
KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #18
Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #19
CTyankee May 2018 #21
SoCalNative May 2018 #22
IronLionZion May 2018 #23
lame54 May 2018 #24
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #25
pangaia May 2018 #26
geardaddy May 2018 #27
sagetea May 2018 #28
workinclasszero May 2018 #32

Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:17 AM

1. Wow, the Republicans really do care about us ...

Do I need to put the sarcasm thingee?

OK, here it is

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:22 AM

2. I guess teenagers are expected to replace all the swept up immigrants that did much

Of this work for low wages. Are you going to force these young people to work for food and health care?

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Response to notdarkyet (Reply #2)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:49 AM

20. you nailed it

there must be a lot of pressure to replace immigrant workers - but i think the hours will be kept under the threshold of having to provide insurance, having that provided under their parents policy, alternatively getting instructions on how to apply for state aid.

and teenagers are good for that old american way of the harder it is on your body, the lower it pays

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:22 AM

3. Trump is Mugatu from "Zoolander"

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:25 AM

4. must... make... more... maga... merch...

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:33 AM

5. it never ends

we'll be back in the dark ages, living in caves, slashing and burning, dying by 30, who knows what-all.
it's like they're trying to kill us through attrition. it's so exhausting.

i hate republicans. and trump and his cabinet, oh yeah they are all republicans.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #5)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:41 AM

6. You are right.

That is exactly where we are heading, and there is no end in sight. Every time I think that this administration can't go any lower, they manage to. How are we going to survive until 2020. We need them out now!

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:41 AM

7. Back to 'the good old days' not! Like Newt Gingrich saying there's

nothing wrong with a kid working as a janitor in his school a few hours a week, some years ago. No way.

Boys and girls with mangled, lost fingers, split fingernails and deformities from working on textile machines in factories and laboring in mills, mines and fields.

It's all about using children as cheaper labor, paid less than adults. Exploitation of youth & adults, anything for a buck.





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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:43 AM

8. It's MAY and Remember:

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #8)

Thu May 10, 2018, 12:29 PM

29. US Child Labor Laws/ the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938

Last edited Thu May 10, 2018, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

was enacted under FDR. The law protected children from exploitation, abuse, injury, dangerous work environments and ensured that their "health, well being or educational opportunities" were not adversely effected if employed.

Advocates for child labor laws struggled for recognition since the late 19th c. and into the 20th century in the US.
In July 1903, Mother Jones, the fierce Ireland-born labor leader drew national attention to the exploitation and abuse of child labor by leading the "Children's Crusade," or "March of the Mill Children."

The group was formed from thousands of Philadelphia area textile mill employees on strike, including many children and women who were forced to work night shifts and long hours. The marchers walked all the way from Phila. to New York City and then Long Island, NY to the summer home of Pres. Theodore Roosevelt to highlight to their plight.

More years passed until federal legislation protecting child labor, the FSLA was enacted in 1938 during Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt's administration with the efforts of Frances Perkins, the US Secretary of Labor. Perkins was working in NY City in 1911 when the disastrous Shirtwaist Triangle factory fire took place in Greenwich Village killing 146 garment workers, mostly young women and girls.

Secretary Perkins was a champion of worker rights and the first woman cabinet member. While secretary, she helped establish New Deal social and labor programs that transformed American labor rights for workers; the Social Security Act, fair labor laws FSLA, the minimum wage, the 40 hour work week, overtime pay and protections for unions.



1903 March of the Mill Children/Children's Crusade & labor activist Mother Jones called attention to child labor abuses.




- Phila. Encyclopedia: March of the Mill Children
http://philadelphiaencyclopedia.org/archive/march-of-the-mill-children/

- US Department of Labor, Child Labor, Overview:
The federal child labor provisions, authorized by the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938, also known as the child labor laws, were enacted to ensure that when young people work, the work is safe and does not jeopardize their health, well-being or educational opportunities. These provisions also provide limited exemptions.
https://www.dol.gov/whd/childlabor.htm#Overview

*WHY WE HAVE UNIONS & WORKER SAFETY LAWS*
- March 25, 1911 TRIANGLE FACTORY FIRE KILLS 146 WORKERS in NYC, CBS:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/on-this-day-march-25-1911-triangle-fire-tragedy-kills-146-factory-workers-in-nyc/







Bangladesh Garment Factory Collapse and Fire Kills more than 1,100 Workers, India 2013

https://inhabitat.com/ecouterre/bangladesh-garment-factory-collapse-kills-nearly-100-people-injures-a-thousand/

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/31/rana-plaza-bangladesh-collapse-fashion-working-conditions

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #29)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:29 PM

30. This needs to be its own post!

Why we have labor laws!

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(if only DU had a 'Like' or 'Recommend' feature for posts...... )

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Response to lastlib (Reply #30)

Fri May 11, 2018, 05:49 PM

31. Labor history is so impt., especially in these times and since

little is covered in schools & nada in most media. Maybe I'll expand it for an OP at an opportune time, thanks!

"Suffragette" (2015), one of the best recent films to spotlight labor abuses of women and young girl workers in a laundry factory as background to a story of courageous women in the suffragette movement in England a hundred years ago. Highly recommend, great cast: Carrie Mulligan, Helena Bonham-Carter, Meryl Streep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_(film)



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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:48 AM

9. Shades of Ronald Reagan

He also wanted to roll back the working age.


At least we still had manufacturing jobs for them to go to back then. What do we stand to gain by increasing the labor pool now? While we're at it, why don't we roll back the minimum wage? I hear that children don't need to eat much so they should be OK with $1.50/day right?

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:48 AM

10. They only care about fetuses

Once a child is born, the hell with them.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:48 AM

11. To work in all those rejuvenated coal mines?

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:49 AM

12. There is no low to which he won't go, no child live who could instead die for profits for him,

gun manufacturers or other oligarachs. He truly is the worst person in the freaking world and isn't worried about the mid-terms because russia and the olilgarchs will do anything to steal it for him and his supine party of russsian repugs.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:50 AM

13. ah yes, the good old days...









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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:55 AM

14. Oh - I see now

THAT's why Sessions is pulling children away from their parents at the border. Vile pieces of shit this admin is.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:58 AM

15. So... Are the rural/Rust Belt white folks celebrating yet?

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:04 AM

16. and the ghost of Charles Dickens is saying...

"Wait....what?"

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:06 AM

17. A twofer

More labor to exploit + save on public schools--who needs edumacasion when you can be earning $?

\The whole concept of investing in education to enable people to better themselves and also develop human capital is anathema to pukes.

Just another manifestation of Labor vs. Capital. It.Never.Ends.


Oh, and anyone who works for a living and votes puke is an imbecile.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:32 AM

18. An effort to get more working years out of the populace.

Part of the plutocratic dream for cradle to grave.

From my experience in industry, 16 and 17 year old youth have no business handling most hazardous tasks because they are not mature enough and are prone to be wreckless. We need to return to the time-proven method of training people in an apprenticeship-to-journeyman system.

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“When I started doing this kind of work 20 years ago, we were losing 70 kids a year at work, and now we are losing usually 20 or less. We’ve made substantial progress, and I think that the tightened hazardous occupations rules have played a role in the lowered death tolls for teenage workers. So I would not be in favor of relaxing any of these standards; I think it would be a tragic mistake and would lead to the death of teenage workers,” Reid Maki, coordinator of the Child Labor Coalition, told Bloomberg Law.


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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:37 AM

19. Watch: They'll prob extend the 90 day sub-minimum wage period to 180 or 360. . . . nt

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:53 AM

21. Just last week he was trying to cut health care for kids.

Why aren't his poll numbers in negative numbers?

I can't even laugh at him any more. I am enraged and very, very sad...

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:54 AM

22. Ok, then Barron should be the first in line

for that job in the coal mine.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:58 AM

23. Will the teenagers get paid minimum wage or immigrant wage?

Because working teenagers are also a big excuse they give to avoid raising the minimum wage.

And how about health insurance and workers comp if they are operating dangerous machinery? No? Didn't think so.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:50 AM

24. Why not - You can fit more in a coal mine

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:52 AM

25. Slavery absolutely

Make Involuntary Servitude Again. We are in serious retrograde. Going backwards. Draining swamp ideas and filling the bathtub with us in the water.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 12:04 PM

26. Somebody.. PLEASE keep track of all the shit being done beneath the radar.

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 12:12 PM

27. I can just hear the older Trumpies welcome this.

"Hard work is good for you kid. I makes you a man. When I was your age we had to leave school at age 12 and work in the [mine/mill/farm/factory/slaughterhouse] for 14 hours a day."

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 12:16 PM

28. welcome to the hunger games...

May the odds be forever in our favor...

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Response to atreides1 (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 05:54 PM

32. Trump will bar all Mexican farm workers

and replace them with forced child labor!

MAGA baby!

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