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Tue May 8, 2018, 05:08 PM

Michael Avenatti, after significant investigation ...

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After significant investigation, we have discovered that Mr. Trumpís atty Mr. Cohen received approximately $500,000 in the mos. after the election from a company controlled by a Russian Oligarc with close ties to Mr. Putin. These monies may have reimbursed the $130k payment.

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True researchers keep digging ... the world will not rest until the truth is out

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Reply Michael Avenatti, after significant investigation ... (Original post)
bucolic_frolic May 2018 OP
Gothmog May 2018 #1
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #2
BigmanPigman May 2018 #3
Leghorn21 May 2018 #8
BigmanPigman May 2018 #9
Leghorn21 May 2018 #12
BigmanPigman May 2018 #17
Leghorn21 May 2018 #18
Progressive2020 May 2018 #63
Leghorn21 May 2018 #65
Progressive2020 May 2018 #66
Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #4
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #15
groundloop May 2018 #19
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #21
Wawannabe May 2018 #61
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #62
KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #47
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #48
lagomorph777 May 2018 #74
erronis May 2018 #27
Volaris May 2018 #50
lagomorph777 May 2018 #73
longship May 2018 #5
grantcart May 2018 #6
Major Nikon May 2018 #78
Jim__ May 2018 #7
SayItLoud May 2018 #10
Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #14
Texin May 2018 #11
shenmue May 2018 #13
Achilleaze May 2018 #16
groundloop May 2018 #20
world wide wally May 2018 #22
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #23
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #24
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #26
Leghorn21 May 2018 #40
.99center May 2018 #30
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #31
.99center May 2018 #39
MaryMagdaline May 2018 #57
lagomorph777 May 2018 #75
pnwmom May 2018 #25
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #28
FarPoint May 2018 #29
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #32
FarPoint May 2018 #33
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #70
csziggy May 2018 #60
Honeycombe8 May 2018 #71
Trust Buster May 2018 #34
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FarPoint May 2018 #37
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Heartstrings May 2018 #43
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Heartstrings May 2018 #49
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Heartstrings May 2018 #53
Trust Buster May 2018 #55
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Progressive2020 May 2018 #64
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Progressive2020 May 2018 #68
OliverQ May 2018 #42
KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #69
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Honeycombe8 May 2018 #72
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Sancho May 2018 #59
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:09 PM

1. This is interesting

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:10 PM

2. For additional information from Avenatti and Associates

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:12 PM

3. Is this the Russian who went to his inaugeration?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:31 PM

8. I don't knowwwww, but if so, it would be Viktor Vekselberg

who attended that Moscow dinner in 2015 with Flynn, Stein, Putin etc, was at LOSER45ís inauguration and also had electronics seized by FBI briefly at (NYC?) airport a month or so ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/us/politics/viktor-vekselberg-mueller-investigation.html

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #8)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:32 PM

9. That's the guy I was thinking of!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #9)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:50 PM

12. Yeah, wouldn't it be sweet if it turned out to be him!! But there are so many to pick from

(Roman Abramovich, Dmitry Rybolovlev, Oleg Deripaska come to mind) - but I bet there are literally hundreds of these mobsters with their hands all up in trumpfuckistan -

Weather forecast:

Stormy with a chance of treason/conspiracy/ETC, muthafukkahs

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #12)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:02 PM

17. CNN just said it IS him!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #17)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:04 PM

18. YEP!! All hail Mr. Mueller & Co. and Stormy Daniels and one Michael Avenatti!!!

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #18)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:16 PM

63. Where There Is Smoke, There Is Fire

If Cohen received payoffs from Russian Oligarachs for unknown purposes, it might only be one step away from Collusion/Conspiracy for Trump. A smoking gun.

It is amazing to me that a sitting President may be taken down by an Adult Film Actress and her tenacious Attorney. Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

I can't wait for Trump to be convicted of Collusion. When they drag him away in handcuffs, I hope they replay every time this Clown said "No Collusion", the Mantra of an Idiot. Time is nearly up, you Orange Imbecile!

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Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #63)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

65. Yes, yes, and OH HELL YEAH, 2020!! My brain is 'sploding here tonight!!

Stormy and Michael, who could imagine such beguiling characters?!?!!

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #65)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:42 PM

66. Yes

Amazing. Let us try to keep our brains in our skulls here! Thanks for posting that document above. Trump's goose may be cooked.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:14 PM

4. Wait, what?

Come now again?

The fact that Donald Trump once screwed a porn star may be the one thing that saved this republic from devastation.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:55 PM

15. Avenatti is following the money trail

linking Russian money and oligarchs to Cohen to Trump Campaign to pornstar affair/payments

It's all connected!!! This is bigger than it seems. It's all a giant collusion profusion.

And yes, it is Vekselberg, Twitter right now is abuzz with his links to Wilbur Ross in running a failed bank in Cyprus

So the spider's web of contacts is growing exponentially by the hour





David Corn
‏Verified account @DavidCornDC

Viktor Vekselberg--whom @MichaelAvenatti claims gave $500K to @MichaelCohen212 --was a partner with Wilbur Ross in a Cyprus bank once sloshing with shady Russian money.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #15)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:09 PM

19. I'd suspect the Mueller investigation knows all of this also, but has chosen to stay quiet

But yeah, wouldn't it be sweet sweet karma if Spanky were brought down by a porn star?

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Response to groundloop (Reply #19)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:17 PM

21. All thumbs up on this one!

Oh, we need thumbs up buttons around here

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #21)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:18 PM

61. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

When I am using my phone to access DU I have access to my emojis - maybe you could try that? 👍🤓

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #61)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:23 PM

62. lol

that's new technology to me, but yeah, I should go modern!

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #15)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:30 PM

47. K&R. Somebody should Tweet your statement to Trump..

"It's all a giant collusion profusion."

That would keep him tongue-tied for a week!

........ ............

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #47)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:32 PM

48. lol

thanks, someone appreciates my humor!

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #47)

Wed May 9, 2018, 10:18 AM

74. A profusion of collusion confusion

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM

27. Tommy - that's a good read. Sometimes the slime goes unnoticed

Until someone with some clout actually slips in it and gets mad.

I think dump's screwing around and lying will make a slug's slime-trail look insignificant (no dis to the the slugs!!!)

I hope we can catch the rest of the s-balls in this mess.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:37 PM

50. It's the little things, I swear...

There was a story linked in here one day about how ST:V's Seven of Nine got Barrack Obama elected...
Apparently, she was married to some Illinois State rep who wanted to have an open marraige, and she declined and filed for divorce. When word got out about why, he decided not to run again...and that seat went to Barrack Obama instead (from there, he was elected to his Senate Seat, etc.)

So yeah, I get what you're sayin. If it weren't for Donald Trump's penis, where oh where would this country be headed lol???

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #4)

Wed May 9, 2018, 10:15 AM

73. Every one of those money sources is bad news for Pres. Turd

AT&T has huge business before the US Government (merger with Time Warner)

Novartis has been hammered in a giant bribery scandal in Greece, and forced to pay $390 million in a settlement for a US Government Civil Fraud suit

The Russian oligarch? Pretty obvious problem there

Korean arms manufacturer - in a situation Pres. Turd is personally stirring up every day, obviously to the benefit of Korean arms makers.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:15 PM

5. Discovery????

One wonders.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:21 PM

6. This would explain why Giulani was blabbing all over the place that Trump was paying

Cohen $ 35k a month etc etc


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Response to grantcart (Reply #6)

Wed May 9, 2018, 01:25 PM

78. It's called getting out in front of a story

Now that Cohen's financial records have been split wide open, we are going to discover all sorts of things about the Trumpcoģ shenanigans. We are going to find out how numerous Trump dalliances have been hushed and how the hush money flowed through quid pro quo arrangements. In the coming weeks we are going to learn about Trump's real relationship with Shera Bechard and the story behind that deal is going to be even better.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:28 PM

7. Payments from a Russian oligarch? Who ever could have guessed?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:35 PM

10. Here's my take (briefly)

E. Warren nailed tRUMP as a money grubber. D. Faranhold won Pulitzer uncovering fake charities and foundations in the name of tRUMP.

tRUMP: bragged that he was self funding his campaign. How about this?

Russian Oligarchs flow money into Cohen who flows it to tRUMP who then *funds* his campaign. So, at the end of the day tRUMP is funding his campaign but with $ from Putin's boys.

Oh, and had Houston gotten the *million of my own money* from tRUMP ?

And, is he donating his salary to charity every month?


If he's not bragging about it I doubt it.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #10)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:53 PM

14. I think you are onto something.

Thanks for bringing up David Fahrenthold and his investigation into the phony Trump Foundation.

I paid close attention to his reporting during the election (remember the self-portrait he bought with Foundation funds for $20,000) but it all got pushed aside as all the craziness accumulated.

Looking back, I'm pretty sure that the Trump Foundation was nothing but a slush fund for laundering Russian money.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:38 PM

11. Boy, I sure hope Mr. Avenatti has got a crack security team and bodyguards!

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:51 PM

13. Oh snap

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:01 PM

16. the russians are paying to shut up republican Dirty Donny*s prostitutes?

That sucks.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #16)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:12 PM

20. WERE paying..... I'd think it would suit their purpose now for Spanky to fall

Putin would, of course, continue to deny any involvement while at the same time be laughing his ass off at the chaos he's caused in the US.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #16)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:19 PM

22. That part was strictly the "discretionary" money

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:22 PM

23. Okay...CNN lead right now is that Mueller is interviewing Rusher Oligarch re paymnts to Cohen.

Guess that's what Avenatti is referring to.

Holy Crap. This is BIG.

This couldn't get more curious and complicated. Guest on MSNBC, Ari's show, says if true, this might well prove collusion, using social media to sway the election, the whole ball of wax.

This is YUGE news, if true. Wow.

(Is someone important leaking info to Avenatti? Hmmmmm.)

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #23)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:34 PM

24. Is he that wealthy?

Well who knows, but his bio lists cases he's settled, some in the hundreds of millions of dollars. With legal researchers available around the globe, and attorneys probably willing to work cheaply or even pro bono, following the paper trail might be $100 to $500+ an hour plus filing costs, phones, incidentals? Maybe $50k or so?

Here's a link to the 7 page summary.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pskgpwr15r48tx5/Executive%20Summary.pdf?dl=0

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #24)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM

26. I changed my post.

I saw on CNN that Mueller is interviewing that Russian oligarch about payments to Cohen. So it looks like Avenatti may have gotten that info that way, in some way. He cites specific amounts.

If this is true...this is YUGE. One of the inner circle, Trump's personal atty & working for the Trump Org., taking money from a Russian oligarch, & possibly using some of that money to "take care" of a problem that might hurt Trump's election (the porn star). Wow.

If I were Cohen, I'd be afraid. Very afraid.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #24)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:10 PM

40. Forbes says 14.4 billion

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#5c020dfb251c

Heís #89 or so, canít link his page directly, sorry

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #23)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:45 PM

30. Mueller!

Mueller's leaking again!


Thank's for editing your post, it looked like you were implying that Avenatti was involved in a conspiracy of some sort.

We have to stay focused on the real culprit, Mueller.



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Response to .99center (Reply #30)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:48 PM

31. Not at all!

I was asking an obvious question, and one that Trump's people would ask loud & clear on nat'l tv.

That he got it from Mueller makes more sense, and stops any such conspiracy "deep state" theories.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #31)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:01 PM

39. Mueller doesn't leak.

Quit implying that he does.

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Response to .99center (Reply #39)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:47 PM

57. Southern District of New York might be leaking

Not Mueller

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #57)

Wed May 9, 2018, 10:21 AM

75. Or Avenatti got it through discovery?

Could be perfectly legal.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:42 PM

28. +1. Wow. This is huge news. If I saw this is a movie, I wouldn't believe it.

If true, this ties the Russians directly to Trump's inner circle, the Trump Org., and Trump himself. Wow.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:44 PM

29. Michael Avenatti....

He is now a full fledged Marvel Avenger.....

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #29)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:49 PM

32. Avenatti just came out of nowhere!

Where did this guy come from???? Sort of like "Where have you been all my life?!!?"

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #32)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:52 PM

33. I believe he was being groomed for this time in life...

He has an impressive resume...Worked on Joe Biden Campaign, went to Law School..I think in DC at George Washington.. he's beaten tRump before in some other litigation...is a racecar driver...

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #33)

Wed May 9, 2018, 07:14 AM

70. Impressive! I bet he has the women in a long line trying to get to him....

if he's not married. Because he's attractive, too!

But he's so on point, sharp, articulate, passionate....he's a great advocate. HOW did Stormy find him? Can't wait to see the movie or read the book about that.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #32)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:41 PM

60. He's been around a while

Check out http://www.avenatti.com/bio

Also, read his Wikipedia entry. I can't post excerpts from my tablet but Avenatti is a brilliant litigator.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #60)

Wed May 9, 2018, 07:15 AM

71. Will do. Thanks. nt

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #29)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:52 PM

34. The fool did nothing more than repeat a CNN story. He needs to go away already.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #34)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:55 PM

35. Excuse me????

Explain....

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #35)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:58 PM

36. He has reached the point of meddling with a federal investigation for reasons of self promotion.

 

He needs to step back and stop inserting himself in the story. That is as nice as I can say that.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #36)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:59 PM

37. I believe the Mueller Team is not with that opinion.

I think it all helps....

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #37)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:01 PM

38. I have no idea how you can reach such a conclusion.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #38)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:25 PM

43. Just be thankful he's working FOR us

and not against us.....he has an impressive resume. Google him....

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #43)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:27 PM

44. I think he is a self promoter. I have zero fealty for this guy.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #44)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:28 PM

45. On what pretense?

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #45)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:29 PM

46. My gut. I don't trust him or his motives. Never have.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #46)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:32 PM

49. Motives, huh?

Ok, I'll roll with that....

I trust him in my gut, and have not the slightest thought of any "motive"....he's already famous and wealthy from prior high profile prosecutions, race car pursuits, so what would his motives be?

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #49)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:38 PM

51. He is always on television dropping coy inferences.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #51)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:42 PM

53. Such as?

Examples of his "coy references".

You do realize anything having to do with Cohen is going to have joint scrutiny with Mueller and Avenatti...they're on the same team.

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #53)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:43 PM

55. Who is on the same team ?

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #55)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:47 PM

56. Ummmm....

Everyone investigating trump. They may not work out of the same "office" but they're both working for the greater good, which is follow the money and take down IQ45....

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #56)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:32 PM

64. Avenatti

Avenatti is pursuing a Civil Case against Trump for his Client. It is his perfect right to do so. Mueller and his Team are pursuing potential criminal activities. This private, civil pursuit (Avanatti/Daniels) is running in parallel to the Mueller Probe (Government/Criminal Investigation). This often happens in the law- a potential crime can also be pursued in Civil Law for damages.

Avenatti has a responsibility to his client to pursue the matter as effectively as possible, and I think that he is doing this. He is obviously a skilled laywer who is also skilled at prosecuting the case in the media, which is also necessary given the profile and national implications of this case.

So, I question anyone who does not support Avenatti, who is working to stop Trump. I agree with Heartstrings and others who respect what Avenatti is doing, which is his job.

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Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #64)

Wed May 9, 2018, 12:19 AM

67. Well said..,,

Thank you, Progressive2020!

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Response to Heartstrings (Reply #67)

Wed May 9, 2018, 12:28 AM

68. Thank You

Thank you, also, for posting.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #36)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:18 PM

42. Avenatti was the first person to report this bombshell.

 

Other organizations like The Daily Beast later confirmed his story.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #36)

Wed May 9, 2018, 05:38 AM

69. I tend to side with you a bit.

My concern is that in Avenatti exuberance, he could somehow compromise Mueller's investigation. I doubt that Avenatti is revealing anything Mueller is unaware of, although he appears to be getting info from leaks.

Robert Mueller is playing an extremely complex game here (including sensitivity of politics), and leaks of evidence could hurt his logical process for prosecution AND hurt his chances for reaching plea deals.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #69)

Wed May 9, 2018, 11:22 AM

76. Exuberence???

Heís steel. Because he has a pleasant friendly demeanor? Heís full of energy true.
But that energy is focused, professional with a lot of confidence in what heís doing.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #34)

Wed May 9, 2018, 07:23 AM

72. No, I don't think so. The CNN story was separate, and after Avenatti.

If you watch the talking heads & journalists, they're stating that this didn't come from a journalist, so they are saying "alleged" until they have a chance to verify what Avenatti says about the money to Cohen from Russian oligarch. One pundit said it seemed like someone leaked some information to Avenatti.

Why would you want him to go away, when he's being very effective pursuing his case against a mob boss? The mob boss has the biggest pulpit in the world and uses it effectively, including to tear down Avenatti's client. So I think Avenatti uses the media to try to counter that....to get ahead of the insulted and defamation against his client, and to win public opinion. If he didn't, the public would have a different opinion of Stormy and probably would not understand what went on here.

I do think he may be carrying it too far. He's been on a media blitz for some time. But I guess you can't argue with success. He's been successful in his goals, so far. Trump & Ghouliani have been unsuccessful in trying to counter him, probably because he's so aggressive and he's truthful and has facts on his side.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:15 PM

41. From my twitter feed

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #41)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:09 PM

59. This is it....

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:41 PM

52. End run around Mr. Mueller, now Mueller has to release the hounds.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:42 PM

54. With the resources Mueller has, imagine what his team is digging up.

The rich and corporations are swimming in a cesspool of corruption.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:04 PM

58. Tip of the iceberg...

I'll bet there were a bunch of GOPers who got money from the Russians.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2018, 11:35 AM

77. Is Avenatti saying...

That oligarch repaid Cohenís (Stormy) expenditure on Trumpís behalf?

How is that not collusion?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:07 PM

79. Any more breaking news on this expose?

It is now October 15, and enquiring minds want to know!

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