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Mon May 7, 2018, 11:38 PM

More than 30,000 nursing home eviction notices to be sent in Louisiana Thursday...

Source: USA Today

BATON ROUGE -- Louisiana's Department of Health will begin sending nursing home eviction notices Thursday to more than 30,000 residents who could lose Medicaid under the budget passed by the state House of Representatives.

"The Louisiana Department of Health is beginning the process of notifying all impacted enrollees that some people may lose their Medicaid eligibility," Department of Health spokesman Bob Johannessen said. "The goal of the department is to give notice to all affected people as soon as possible in order that they begin developing their appropriate plans."

Gov. John Bel Edwards' staff has planned a press conference Wednesday for more details, a day before the notices are set to be mailed to 37,000 Medicaid recipients in nursing homes or other long-term care facilities.

"The Department of Health told us they're sending out the letters May 10," said Mark Berger, executive director of the Louisiana Nursing Home Association, during testimony at the Senate Finance Committee meeting Monday.

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Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/07/louisiana-nursing-home-eviction-notices-could-create-mass-chaos/588867002/

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Reply More than 30,000 nursing home eviction notices to be sent in Louisiana Thursday... (Original post)
mbusby May 2018 OP
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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:40 PM

1. Just in time for mother's day - nice touch

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:30 AM

37. A Republican Crisis

They refuse to raise any of the taxes they drastically cut under Bobby Jindal. The Republican legislature is trying to damage our Democrat governor John Bel Edwards. The same LAGOP that spawned Davis Duke, David Vitter, and Steve Scalise.

They are too stupid to quit, they know nothing else but overspending on Republican items, and starving everyone else to pay for the reckless financial management.

It's the same idiocy that occupies the federal government now.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #37)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:50 AM

48. Hey, Hey! Hey, HEY!!!!

It's called "compassionate conservatism", and don't you forget it!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:43 PM

2. Begin developing the appropriate plans . Wtf?

These people are on Medicaid because they are destitute and can't afford anything else. They have no way to "develop an appropriate plan" other than dying in the street if they are kicked out. It should be a crime to knowingly send people to their death because it's exactly what is going to happen.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:45 PM

3. My reaction is the same

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:19 AM

16. They strap them into a gurney then push them in the bayou.

The Republicans are disgusting people.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:20 AM

17. A majority should have family to move in with. Of course,

this would be a tremendous inconvenience at very least for most. Many wouldn't have an extra ground-floor bedroom and have to turn someplace else into a bedroom for Uncle Harry.

Some relatives would be elderly themselves. Some will never have met their elderly, newly destitute and homeless relatives.

Others may not have a nonworking adult to care for those people who can't be left alone all day. 7:1, it'd be a woman who quit her job to become caretaker, along with removing an income from the family and its contributions to, among other things, their own future retirement needs.

I'm not heartless, but GOOD. Hope it happens there, now, and becomes a wake-up call. Because if we don't get control of congress 182 days from now, it will be happening not just there but other places too. The plan is ultimate dismantling of Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Btw, how's the plan to dismantle the VA coming? Many vets collect Medicaid so are slated for two major hits.

And did we all hear that it's really happening, our era's shameful version of WWII's Japanese internment: We will now be now tearing frightened children away from their parents at the border and interning them separately. This is an atrocity.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #17)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:58 AM

51. Many people in nursing homes require more care than a family member can provide

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #51)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:30 AM

60. Sure. Those won't be lying on the sidewalks, though,

as much as some of those behind this might think this would be a quick problem solver.

The imminent threat would be to people who have some disability that keeps them from living on their own but don't currently need to be in a skilled nursing facility.

Family can drive someone with stabilized kidney failure to and from dialysis 3 times a week, to the doctor/ER when insulin levels become worrisome, give medicines to forgetful parents, etc. There are many, many millions of those alone of course. And modern technology is enabling a lot more remote and home medical care so patients can stay home with their caretakers, some of whom might come to yearn for the good old days of 3+ free hours out of the house while dialysis was going.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #60)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:37 PM

74. I am afraid you are not considering the whole picture.

There is such a thing as generational poverty. Many of these people in the nursing home on Medicaid also have families that are on the brink of homelessness themselves.

I see it everyday in my area. These folks would not be able to take care of an elderly relative, let alone drive them to and from the hospital several times a week. They are working 2 to 3 jobs just to be able to survive. Sometimes they can't even afford a car. In any case, they wont be able to free themselves from work to do that.


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Response to drray23 (Reply #74)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:56 PM

77. I'm not forgetting that at all, Drray23.

This is a major disaster in the making. Which is why I want it to happen NOW, not after the Republicans manage to hold control of congress and many state governments they are at risk of losing right now.

Now, while the numbers to be hurt are far smaller than they will become if we don't get these barbarians out of power.

These people, both the disabled and their family of all generations, are ENTITLED to Medicaid assistance. Most paid in one way or another since its inception so it would be there if needed. All generations affected have a RIGHT to that, and it's our duty to stop it being stolen from them.

But it'll help tremendously if people are shown what's being lost and what that means to them.

Btw, Trump admin just told the states NO to imposing lifetime limits on Medicaid. For the same reason they did it (for now?) -- worry about the midterm elections, I'm sorry to hear that.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:33 AM

22. Republicans have been doing this for decades.

In Florida they used to "evict" Medicaid patients in nursing homes to make room for patients who had better insurance or were paying cash. They'd load the Medicaid patients into cars, some in buses, and drop them off all over the cities. Sometimes they leave them at bus stations, and most often they wouldn't even change them into street clothes. They leave them in hospital garb, you know.....the gowns that leave your ass flapping in the breeze. The Florida newspapers reported on this heavily, and the authorities even caught some of these nursing home owners, and some of them got a stern talking to and maybe fined.

It's all about the money, and with the baby boomer generation in full retirement/long term healthcare mode, it's going to get a lot worse in the very near future.

These are the "good christian" Republicans, complete with "family values".

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:31 AM

61. Totally agree!

 

This is the REAL death panel the rethugs love to screech about incessantly!

A death sentence straight from the 1% Koch bros, Mercer's, Walton's and their personal political party!

Enjoy America, Trump loves ya!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

4. Republicans want poor people to die in the gutter like in India

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:01 AM

9. You are 100 percent correct

They just don't friggin care. HUD housing residents are about to be the next in line. Tent cities and dying in the gutter is what they want. That is not hyperbole.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:36 AM

23. Yeah, what happened to.....

"the sanctity of life" they're so concerned with before babies are born? Republicans only care about "life" while it's still in the womb. After that they could care less. They should all pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and shit like that.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:32 AM

62. You damn right they do and it's

 

happening fast now.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

5. A change of plans is in order.

What might be Plan B when a person is destitute? This must be that compassionate Republican thing they occasionally refer to when they all need a hearty chuckle.

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Response to nancy1942 (Reply #5)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:04 AM

11. Their new plan...

...is the money back guarantied euthanasia program, no extra charge.

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Response to mbusby (Reply #11)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:13 AM

14. What is the response of GOP Christians to this barbarism?!

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #14)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:03 AM

52. ask them if they have made modifications to their home for when grandma moves in....

and which one is gonna quit their job to care for her....

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #52)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:59 PM

82. Right. If Christian GOP supporters can't care for people, then those Xians

CAN FUND $$$ centers and services for Medicaid recipients as 'charity,' a substitute. That'll be the day...won't happen.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #14)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:37 AM

63. Right here....

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #63)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:07 PM

79. that is literally the best political cartoon I have ever seen n/t

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #63)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:08 PM

80. +1

I love Horsey.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #63)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:23 PM

84. That's a great one, illustrative of the sickness and rot upon us.

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Response to mbusby (Reply #11)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:44 PM

90. The Nazi, T-4 Euthanasia Program begun 1939 to sterilze and murder 'defectives.'



Various eugenics policies were in effect from the late 19th c. into the 20th c. in the US, European & other countries.

Nazi Racial State Genocide, BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/racial_state_01.shtml

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

6. I Can't Say What I Think I Will Get Banned From The Universe

 

To call Republicans scum is an insult to pond inhabitants.

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Response to PaulX2 (Reply #6)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:01 AM

10. Plus One!!!!

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Response to PaulX2 (Reply #6)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:45 PM

75. I'm pretty sure we're on the same wavelength.

I really hate to think of how this is going to end up, but it's going to be ugly.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:59 PM

7. Similar to the republican health plan....

*Don't get sick, but if you do, hurry up and die.*
This plan is - don't get poor and old, but if you do, hurry up and die.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2018, 11:59 PM

8. The GOP plan is to bankrupt and make ill,

and possibly die, about half of the country. If they had their wish both would occur at the same time. Paul Ryan and Mitch will have pleasant dreams when that happens.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:05 AM

12. Ben Carson said a few days ago HUD residents will be paying more

Here's the link:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carsons-hud-proposal-would-raise-rent-for-millions-in-public-housing/

Every comment in this thread about repubs and how they want to rid the world of poor people is spot on. Repubs are worse than pond scum and have to be defeated.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:05 AM

13. Brutal fascists at work eliminating the helpless. Reminds me of films

during WWII in Europe when medical staff assisted very ill and elderly patients with cyanide capsules to take in time before Nazi troops arrived.
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USA Today, OP Excerpt:

"Medicaid is a federal-state collaboration covering more than 70 million people, or about 1 in 5 Americans, making it the largest government health insurance program. President Obama expanded the program by allowing states to cover millions more low-income adults.
Rolling back the expansion has been a longtime goal of the GOP. The Trump administration has encouraged states to reshape their Medicaid programs, paving the way for states like Kentucky and Michigan to include *new measures like work requirements for able-bodied adults."
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~ Mme Vesuvius


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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #13)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:14 AM

42. "Useless eaters"

was the phrase...I'm sure it would be popular among Republicans today.

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Response to KatyMan (Reply #42)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:15 AM

54. We all knew this was coming when the Rethugs decided to put Medicaid on the chopping block...

I have posted several times that the F-the Libtards voter would wake up and stop having fun burning down the Republic when Grandma and Grandpa... or Mom and Dad showed up in wheelchairs in their driveway.

This is just the beginning. Congratulations... show them what they've won, Vana.

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Response to KatyMan (Reply #42)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:58 PM

87. Takers and producers..... Was that the phrase?

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #13)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:27 AM

69. This administration would NEVER be compassionate to give cyanide to

anyone.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:17 AM

15. Oh goody.

"The goal of the department is to give notice to all affected people as soon as possible in order that they begin developing their appropriate plans."

They are giving them time to plan which bridge they will die under.

FUCK!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:02 AM

18. Show up at the homes of the legislators (and their families) and camp out.

 

Resist any attempt to remove. Many of you have been given a death sentence anyway, what have you to lose?

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #18)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:20 AM

33. Damn straight

If all else fails, get themselves arrested. They'll at least have food, heat a bed and healthcare back.

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #18)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:56 AM

45. Time for Hoovervilles everybody!

Maybe the rest of us should find a way to set them all up in tent cities either at the state capitol or the White House. There'll be no porta potties, so let them do whatever they have to when nature calls on the lawn of the White House or state capitol.

Republicans have money for endless military excursions but God forbid they find money to house and care for human beings.

Did it ever occur to them that not everyone has family to help? Or they don't live near family? Or their family is all dead?

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Response to llmart (Reply #45)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:29 PM

85. "Hoovervilles" in the Great Depression 1930s, all over the US. For real.



USA, 1930s Great Depression. Communities named for Pres. Herbert Hoover (R) in office during the 1929 Financial Crash, followed by 10 years of economic misery including 20-50% unemployment. Hoover proposed consulting the Red Cross, and did very little to help the economy or the American people.
In 1933 FDR (D) took office and implemented major reforms & New Deal programs to help lift the nation from poverty.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:14 AM

19. Former House Speaker Jim Tucker says, "If those notices go out, they will kill people"

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/05/people_who_are_elderly_disable.html

The Louisiana Nursing Home Association said the Medicaid cuts would cause most of its facilities in the state to close, meaning people with private insurance would also lose their homes. The industry employs 25,000 people in Louisiana, many of whom would no longer be employed if the Medicaid cut is implemented, representatives said.

Other financial problems could occur for nursing homes once the notices go out, industry leaders said. It could lead banks to seize assets or try to collect on loans the nursing homes have taken out. 

CommCare Corp., which runs 12 nursing homes around the state, said about 1,000 of its 1,600 residents would lose Medicaid benefits under the proposed cut. The  company's leader, former House Speaker Jim Tucker, said if the notices are sent, his company will have to start "preparing for the worst." 

Tucker also said some residents -- such as those who don't have a family that can take them in -- could die from the stress. Many aren't aware that their Medicaid services are on the chopping block, he said. 

"If those notices go out, they will kill people," Tucker, a Republican who represented the New Orleans area, said last month in an interview. 

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #19)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:00 PM

88. "If those notices go out, they will kill people," - Mission accomplished

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:14 AM

20. Remember that ad with ryan pushing granny out of her wheelchair...off the cliff..?

And the Florida Congressman ( his name escapes me atm) who explained the repug health plan..."die quickly"...?

Well...here we are folks. It wasn't so far fetched, was it!

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Response to Hulk (Reply #20)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:26 AM

21. That was Alan Grayson.

A real firebrand, and we should have many more Democrats in office like him.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #21)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:43 AM

25. And he used to post right here on DU:

Corporations aren't people. Seniors and veterans are.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10027354528


Cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits? Hell no!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10027289959

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #21)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:15 AM

36. Congratulations, you're getting your wish.

Alan Grayson is running for his old seat.

“Yesterday, I filed the papers to run for my old seat in Congress, Florida’s 9th Congressional District.

And with your help, we will win >>

I’m running for Congress because our progressive goals – justice, equality and peace – need a champion in Congress.

Think about it. Who can you think of, in the U.S. House of Representatives, whom you would call a champion for progress? On a good day, one or two or three of them. On a bad day, none.

We need someone in Congress who actually knows how to get things done. And I passed 121 pieces of legislation – more than anyone else – even when the Republicans were in charge.

We need someone in Congress who won’t be cowed by Donald Trump’s Twitter feed.

We need someone in Congress who lays the foundation for future progress. Like my Seniors Deserve a Raise Act, for the first increase in Social Security benefits in 43 years. Like my Seniors Have Eyes, Ears and Teeth Act, to expand Medicare to cover eyeglasses, hearing aids and dental care. Like my Freedom From Fear Act, to reinstate the assault weapons ban. Like my College for All Act, introducing the Bernie Sanders free public college law in the House.

Because it’s not enough just to win. You have to make people’s lives better.”

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #21)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:55 PM

76. I am pretty sure he is running again.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #20)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:48 AM

26. Rep. Alan Grayson (D - FL-9)

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:42 AM

24. Additional Info here:

New Orleans Times Picayune:
Louisiana will put 37,000 Medicaid recipients on notice that they could lose benefits
Link: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/05/people_who_are_elderly_disable.html

Even if state lawmakers find the money to pay for those services before then, state officials said they were compelled to warn Medicaid recipients that the cuts are a distinct possibility.

"We can't just afford to bury our heads in the sand," said Jay Dardenne, Gov. John Bel Edwards' chief budget officer and the state's commissioner of administration. "We tried to delay this as long as we possibly can."

Those receiving notification include around 20,000 people who live in nursing homes, thousands of people with intellectual disabilities who live in group homes and those who receive home health care assistance. All of their support services would be at risk, including the ability to stay in a nursing home, if state Medicaid funding is slashed.

The Louisiana House approved a state operating budget last month that would eliminate four Medicaid programs for the disabled and elderly. Notices are scheduled to go out to those affected Thursday (May 9), though their delivery has been pushed back previously. Dardenne said the 37,000 people will also be contacted to see if they qualify for some other kind of Medicaid service that isn't proposed for elimination.


And, Baton Rouge - The Advocate:
At 'difficult' hearing, public begs Louisiana lawmakers for health care help; nursing home patients warned
Link: http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/legislature/article_05b22a94-5234-11e8-b3f0-3311766dc2fd.html

"When people get the letters, they are going to be frantic," Sen. Regina Barrow, D-Baton Rouge, said during a budget hearing at which the Edwards administration outlined steps that it is taking to prepare people for the worst-case budget scenario and stressed that the letters are not meant as a definite signal that elderly and disabled people are going to be evicted this summer.

About 35,000 letters will be mailed Thursday to people who rely on Medicaid health care programs deemed "optional" under federal guidelines. The letters include 17,000 to nursing home residents across the state whose assistance would end July 1 if the Legislature doesn't cover funding for those programs in a budget that is currently being crafted.

"These people cannot be taken care of at home and many of them are at an age where there is no home to return to," said Mark Berger, executive director of the Louisiana Nursing Home Association, often a politically powerful group in the State Capitol.

Beyond patients with mental and physical limitations being threatened with the possibility of having to move out, Berger said the news also could trigger layoffs at nursing homes.

"This budget cut looms large over the entire program," he said.


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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:07 AM

27. Omg

Republicans are fscking nazis. As other people in the thread have mentioned, not everyone has family who could take them in.

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Response to area51 (Reply #27)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:27 AM

58. Same as Hitler: different times, different people/country, different methods, but the end result is

the same, death. Culling the herd. America is becoming more and more the opposite of everything the country ever stood for. If young, get the hell out of America if you can as it's probably just going to get worse and worse. There are many wonderful places to live on earth.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #58)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:43 AM

64. Trump and the GOP fascist coup are really dropping the mask

 

Maybe when the old and sick are kicked out on the streets to die some regular republican voters will finally wake up to the horror of the fascist GOP and their 1% masters!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:12 AM

28. I can't decide whether this is compassionate conservatism or tough love.

Either way, it falls right in line with the Republican motto: "I've got mine, so fuck you!"

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #28)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:57 AM

50. A twist: "You voted Republican, so fuck you!"

This is what you get when you vote Republican in Louisiana, and in Oklahoma, in Kansas, in West Virginia, etc., so deal with it.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:20 AM

29. America is rapidly becoming a 4th world nation where cruelty has no limits.

drumpf's America is no place anyone should have to live. F' the GOP!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:43 AM

30. "Bring out your dead"...

That's what this reminds me of: the carts going through the streets to pile on another body during the Black Plague.

It might as well be that. The Medicaid residents are usually destitute, medically fragile people. At least in my experience as a former CNA.

Just throw them out on the street and wait.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:51 AM

31. Sick little fuckers, just sick bastards every one of them, what else is there to say?

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Response to Canoe52 (Reply #31)

Tue May 8, 2018, 05:06 PM

89. You're speaking what republicans think about Medidicaid patients?

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:58 AM

32. On the plus side -- everything is clear. Heartbreakingly, utterly clear.

They gained power over decades by telegraphing their plans quietly to The Base while trumpeting false patriotism for cover.

Now they're trumpeting plans to directly attack the civilian population without any cover at all except for a lingering notion in the majority of the population that the GOP may be no more than a tool of Russian military intelligence.

Can't last unless they succeed in killing the nation itself. Which they'll do for a nickel, clearly.

But they're not the brightest pennies in the pocket, hey? Nope. They're a lot of things, but not that. Not the brightest, or the healthiest, or even the toughest. Nope.

Watch out, GOP! Here comes the Darwin! Oh nooooooes!

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Response to byronius (Reply #32)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:04 AM

40. and don't forget their embrace of religion

which to me is like rubbing salt in the wound

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 06:48 AM

34. The sready March towards becoming a third world nation...

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:02 AM

35. So, it isn't just about losing a place to stay.

 

What about losing all of their prescription drugs?

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:52 AM

38. Stop complainig. Abortion and Gunz.. them's what's important. Not Granny.

Besides, Obama and Hillary's emails are responsible for this.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:54 AM

39. Welcome to Louisiana Indigent Care Laboratory

Some nursing homes, particularly small ones, rely on Medicaid patient funding as part of their steady income to pay the bills. Surely bankruptcies will ensue from this cruel, craven, ideological shortsightedness.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:08 AM

41. Just guessing here

 

but since Louisiana is a bright red state, the people getting kicked out of the nursing homes and the children who will have to come up with plan B most certainly voted for Trump and their Republican Representatives.

My guess is that they will vote for Trump in 2020 if he and they are still around.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:16 AM

43. All so the Republicans can cut sales tax by one cent

The budget passed by the House and sent to the Senate contains deep cuts to healthcare because of a shortfall of between $550 million and $648 million, depending on who's doing the calculations.

Next year's shortfall was created because about $1.4 billion in temporary taxes expire June 30. The bulk of the expiring taxes, about $880 million, comes from a one-cent sales tax.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:28 AM

44. "Next year's shortfall was created because..."

"...about $1.4 billion in temporary taxes expire June 30. The bulk of the expiring taxes, about $880 million, comes from a one-cent sales tax."

for the cut of one fucking cent.

fuck this asshole heartless psychopath repukes.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #44)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:17 AM

47. Just guessing he means 1%.

 

Doesn't it make sense with 1%? Kicking granny out on the street so that someone can get a $3,000 kickback from buying his $300,000 yacht.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 08:58 AM

46. There is always living under the bridge.

WTF do they expect these people to do? Most of them presumably don't have anywhere to go to.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:56 AM

49. The Democratic Party needs to send a strong message in support of the sick and elderly everywhere.

If we don't support the most fragile among us, who will?

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

53. Nice! So they're going to kick out elderly patients with Alzheimer's, diabetes, congestive heart

failure, and who knows what else onto the street to die there. Instead of solving problems as Obama tried to do, they are making them far worse. Congress should declare a state of emergency and start saving the elderly, the indigent, and the sick. Then they should impeach Dump, Pence, Ryan and McConnell and hold new elections.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:17 AM

55. "Heckofajob!" someone once said, oddly enough - about Louisiana! NM

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:18 AM

56. I guess lots of older republican voting folks thought we were kidding about the granny killing GOP

 



Now they will see the truth firsthand.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:21 AM

57. The republican plan continues to implement the culling of people in America, killing them off.

I'm not joking. This is obviously the plan and often those on the list continue to vote republican. I still think many Americans still don't understand or are not paying attention to the republican agenda. The republican evilness depends on robotic individuals who vote republican on command.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #57)

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:14 PM

92. New: *MICHIGAN MEDICAID Work Requirement Comes With A Racist Twist*

May 2018, "Michigan's Medicaid Work Requirement Comes With a Racist Twist," Most Impact on Detroit and Flint, NY Mag.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/michigans-medicaid-work-requirement-comes-with-racist-twist.html

Medicaid work requirements, the shiny new toy for Republican lawmakers across the country, may soon make their way to Michigan. But the proposal that passed the state senate in Lansing last week and is expected to sail through the house in coming days, puts a new, racist twist on the already-bad idea.

The bill, which requires proof of working 30 hours each week to maintain Medicaid coverage, contains an exemption for people residing in counties where unemployment exceeds 8.5 percent.
That would leave the largely white residents of rural areas, some of which are represented by the bill’s sponsors, exempt from the onerous new rule. Meanwhile, people living in places such as Detroit and Flint would not get the same exemption despite the unemployment rate in those cities exceeding the same threshold.

Columnist Nancy Kaffer explains in the Detroit Free Press:
[Detriot’s] unemployment rate is higher than 8.5%, but the unemployment rate in surrounding Wayne County is just 5.5% — meaning Detroiters living in poverty, with a dysfunctional transit system that makes it harder to reach good-paying jobs, won’t qualify for that exemption. The same is true in Flint and the state’s other struggling cities.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210584127

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:27 AM

59. "developing their appropriate plans"

 

Those are GOP code words for, homelessness, starvation, death from lack of medical care, elder abuse by relatives forced to take in bedridden, sick, old folks they can not ever take care of.

MAGA America! How do you like that winning now? Are you ****ing sick of it yet?!

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

65. Probaby more than 10 thousand will be DEAD within weeks.

My father had a stroke 6 months ago, and I have been dealing with nursing homes since then. He initially recovered somewhat, but then has started deteriorating again. He is 86 and has many complications, but keeps on living somehow.

But having been dragged through this process of Medicare to self pay, and eventually Medicaid I know more about it than I ever wanted to.

No one ever goes into a nursing home because they "Want" to, only because the HAVE to! The people there need 24/7 care for even their most basic needs. They are beyond what nearly anyone can provided in home care. Nursing homes cost about $7000 a month to be in one! I am about to write the third $7400 check this week. My parents IRA savings is dwindling fast.

And Medicaid is the last resort payer, and you have to literally bankrupt yourself (under $2000 in money/savings) before you can apply, and the application process itself if grueling. If you do have any assets like a home your spouse is living in, the state will put a lien on its eventual sale for any money. They look back an any money you have given away in the last 5 years and essentially claw that money back before Medicaid starts paying anything.

Throwing these people out is a literal death sentence for many if not most of these people. They will not survive without this level of care, and it will be beyond the capabilities of most families. Plus how many will lose their jobs because of trying to take care of their now in-home patients.

This is some Nazi level evil. Who needs assault rifles when we have "Assault Policies" to really kill a lot of people.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 10:59 AM

66. This is unconscionable.

Pro-life indeed. If these degenerates are going to abandon the poor and sick, they should enact at-will right to die laws so the victims of their policies at least have the choice of living in suffering or dying on their own terms. Republicans are the death panels they so fear.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:00 AM

67. This move should ramp up the Suicide rate in Louisiana

Interesting GOP pro-life approach to population control.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:24 AM

68. So the state is doing this????? THEN

Families should file federal elderly abuse charges against the state!! Through there ombudsman!! Could this be possible??? https://ncea.acl.gov/whatwedo/policy/federal.html

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:35 AM

70. Oh come on people, trump needs the money for his

military parade and the many others I am sure he will bless us with.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 11:38 AM

71. republican family values at work

pissing on America's elderly

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 12:42 PM

72. I think that the state of Louisiana just made a giant mistake...

If I were elderly (and I am getting there), I will no longer travel on vacation to New Orleans. I will no longer retire to New Orleans or the like, if there is a possibility that one day in the future, I'll be kicked out of my long term health care facility (I do have the insurance for long term health care, but it more than likely won't be near enough). The fact is that the state has a responsibility to these elderly patients and shouldn't just dump these patients merely because of a shortfall of a 1 cent sales tax.

As one post above mentioned, going into a nursing home is a last resort item. My family and I kept my father at home when it was almost impossible to physically move my father (the bathroom, bed, etc.)...It was a challenge that my mother insisted on taking and did.

Either most of those already in homes are there for a specific reason, need special care, 3 meals a day, don't have families to help w/ long term health care needs, and so forth. Most homes are not setup to handle a wheelchair and the like, or have someone around all of the time (they have to work, etc.).

What happens in this particular case (Louisiana) if a nursing home inhabitant doesn't have any family representing them (all by themselves, which oftentimes happens, their spouse has already passed on, etc.)? If I were a citizen of Louisiana, I would be somewhat concerned for this may be my future someday, getting kicked out onto the curb by the state.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 01:22 PM

73. How many of the 37,000+ recipients ...

voted Republican.

Their taking us all down.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 02:56 PM

78. How many are Vets?? Yeah....the CONS "support the troops" and Liburls don't........

More PROOF that that statement has always been BS.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 03:11 PM

81. Appropriate Plan - Family Members, Advocates show up

at the offices, businesses and homes of the ones in the Louisiana
State Legislature responsible for this With the patients. Also, same
for locales of Ryan, McConnell, the Kochs, Mercers, et al. And bring
the media with you. IOW bring the War home.

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:18 PM

83. Hope this adds fuel to a blue wave there

 

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 04:52 PM

86. Kicked and recommended.




Thanks for the thread, mbusby

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Response to mbusby (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2018, 07:42 PM

91. Good old southern values.

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