Shania Twain Has Apologized For Saying She Would Have Voted For Trump

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The singer is a Canadian citizen.
Posted on April 22, 2018, at 8:12 p.m.

Shania Twain took to Twitter Sunday to apologize for saying she would have voted for Donald Trump, after people started saying they were not impressed with her answer.


In an interview with the Guardian published Sunday, the 52-year-old Canadian singer was quoted saying she would have voted for Trump if she had been able to vote in the US elections in 2016.

The article in the Guardian touched on many topics related to Twain's musical career and her upcoming Shania Now Tour. It also included one paragraph on Twain's thoughts on the US President:

It is not the only way in which she expresses her conservatism. If she had been able to vote in the US election, she would have plumped for Donald Trump, she says. “I would have voted for him because, even though he was offensive, he seemed honest. Do you want straight or polite? Not that you shouldn’t be able to have both. If I were voting, I just don’t want bullshit. I would have voted for a feeling that it was transparent. And politics has a reputation of not being that, right?" ....................



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I had read the long Guardian article. Actually enjoyed the article and have seen her in concert a long time ago. Her trump comments are at the very end.

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[Iliyah]

1. errrrr, too late.

Any who, cheers!

[poboy2]

2. You said you would have voted for him. On planet Earth, that is considered an endorsement.

Liar. But then you apparently like bullshit.

[thesquanderer]

49. There are lots of people who voted for him, who regret it.

So voting for him (or saying you would have) is not an endorsement, not a statement that you would vote for him today if given the opportunity.

[ChiTownDenny]

82. Over a year after the election

she says she would have voted for Trump. Fine, that's her prerogative. So why apologize? $$$$.

[Grassy Knoll]

3. I Saw Her Trending On Twitter..

..And Boy Did She Get A Public Ass Kicking.

[SunSeeker]

27. Her apology did not bring back the fans aghast by her claim that Trump is "honest."

Rather, judging by the tweet comments, her apology served only to offend her Trumsper fans.

So it appears she has now offended ALL her fans.

[Loki Liesmith]

4. Why apologize?

If you’re going to spout stupid shit you must believe it. At least have the stomach to take the abuse for it.

[Freethinker65]

13. Agree. Honestly, would anyone that really listens to her care?

[cstanleytech]

20. "Why apologize?" Probably because she has some fantasy of being relevant again as a singer?

[Loki Liesmith]

25. Yeah that aint gonna happen

But even if it was I’d wager she’d have better luck with Trumpkins.

I’m still left wondering why she made this statement if she didn’t mean it.

[Bengus81]

90. She can vote for who she want's too........

Even a POS like Trump. Why apologize?

[Takket]

5. Let me translate

My agent just informed me everything is going to shit. So let me try to fix this up. I didn’t mean it. When I said I wound vote for him it was taken out of context. Whatever the fuck that means.

Signed,

The woman who endorses a guy that won’t release his tax returns even after he promised to, because she doesn’t like bullshitters.

[JI7]

8. the same people who claim he tells it like it is

will respond with "he didn't mean it" when we bring up the fucked up things he has said. and go into many excuses about how he is new to politics and other shit .

[JI7]

6. they were able to relate to him because they agreed with his Bigotry

that's all there is to it.

[SunSeeker]

19. Bingo. nt

[heaven05]

63. ++

[workinclasszero]

76. Yup

That's all it ever is with Trump supporters.

[ProudLib72]

7. Look, at this point, if you say something like this

you'd better expect a TON of negative feedback. To casually mention this does not speak well for her. I'm not accepting her apology.

[obamanut2012]

45. same

[House of Roberts]

9. I like Martina McBride better.

I don't care who she would have voted for.

[Major Nikon]

10. So at first she claims she would have voted for him because of his honesty and lack of bullshit

Then when she is facing monetary backlash she dishonestly makes up a bullshit story about how she was talking about something else instead of just apologizing and taking it back.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. She just demonstrated that she is truly a New Conservative.

[still_one]

11. Perhaps she should apologize for being a complete idiot

[Iggo]

12. I used to like her 'til about five minutes ago.

Nice goin', Shania.

You fucking dumbshit.

[Lunabell]

14. That don't impress me much.

A little too late.

[syringis]

15. So, you have apologized ?

... That don't impress me much...

[Downtown Hound]

16. If you thought Trump seemed honest

You are an idiot.

[SunSeeker]

17. So she'd vote for Trump because he's "honest"?!

She cray.



Damn, it's so disappointing when people open their mouths and reveal what stupid idiots they are.

[Honeycombe8]

18. You thought he was honest because he's a good con man, lady! Twain's a Trumper. nt

[Dave Starsky]

75. He's not even a good con man.

She thought he was honest for the same reason that millions of Americans think he's honest: because they're idiots.

[Sam McGee]

21. Shania Twain is NOT a country music singer

No, Shania Twain is not a country music singer.

Loretta Lynn is a country music singer. As are:
Patsy Cline
Kitty Wells
Dottsy


But NOT Shania Twain.

[redstateblues]

28. Shania was nothing without Mutt Lange

Check out the records she made before and after Mutt. Pretty obvious. Mutt may be a weirdo but he was a brilliant producer -Bryan Adams, Def Leopard, AC/DC and many more.

[Miles Archer]

80. Emmylou

Saw her open for Willie Nelson in 1975, touring behind her second album, "Elite Hotel."

Want to know who got the torch when it was passed? Look no further.

I grew up in a home where Patsy Cline was a big part of the "soundtrack."

Until I discovered my own music, around age 10, most of the performers who "trod the boards" at the Grand Ole Opry were what I heard.

I see Emmylou in the same way I see Dwight Yoakam. Dwight took the whole "Bakersfield Experience" and assimilated it into his music. It wasn't mere "copycatting" from either of them. They both got the torch and ran with it.



And yes, most emphatically, Twain is nowhere near being a "country" artist.

[Chicago1980]

22. I guess that's the difference between a Canadian and American Conservative...

One knows how to apologize for being a total fucking moron, while the other would double down.

[videohead5]

23. Because he is honest?

When I read that I laughed my ass off.

[DFW]

24. She said, "I just don't want bullshit."

OK, then she can go back to calling herself Eileen, and stick to audiences in Canada and maybe parts of Oklahoma.

(problem is, you see, we don't want bullshit, either)

[lkinwi]

62. Exactly what I thought.

She doesn’t like bullshit, but then turns around and gives a bullshit apology.

[Initech]

26. That don't impress me much.

[catbyte]

29. I remember the kerfuffle with her several years ago when she was just becoming really famous.

She claimed she was 1/2 Ojibwe and how proud she was of her heritage and that "her father" was full-blood Ojibwe. Come to find out, her biological father was Irish, her adoptive stepfather was the full blooded Ojibwe. I was uneasy with that because even though she grew up in the culture, that didn't make her Native. Plus, she lied about who her biological father was. So maybe she doesn't actually mind pathological liars.

I was also very disappointed to see that because, if claimed to be Native, she expressed her support for a goddamned bigot who is trying to destroy Indian Health Services and has denied casino licenses to legitimate tribes with the last year. I'm sure it all stems from his rivalry with Indian casinos back in the 1980's and 1990's.

I know she's trying to save her tour, but this "apology" just seems forced, insincere, and one of those "sorry if anyone was offended, besides I was taken out of context" non-apologies that assholes are so famous for.

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[True Blue American]

40. Would Trump

Call her Pocahontas,too?

[obamanut2012]

46. Her stepfather raised her, and she consdered him her father

Not "father" -- it is offensive to put that in quotes.

She grew up with her father's relatives, and spent a lot of time wth the tribe, and they consider her a member of their First Nation tribe.

You would think the Elizabeth Warren thing would be enough to make her dislike Trump.

[DinahMoeHum]

30. Lady, whose bed have YOUR boots been under?

[sprinkleeninow]

31. Go 'way, Shanie. You tryin' to save your butt ain't gonna work, ya heard?

[LiberalFighter]

32. She doesn't hold the same moral beliefs but would still vote for DT.

Twisted.

[Cha]

33. Oooops.. classic case of talking

before you know you're talkin' 'bout.

Glad her fans gave her an earful

[SoCalMusicLover]

34. Can I Get A Refund On The Tickets I Didn't Buy?

Can you boycott someone you don't patronize to begin with?

I'm just glad it wasn't a Canadian I look up to, like Bryan Adams or Martin Short, who said something so lame.

[True Blue American]

39. I do not think so.

😂

[obamanut2012]

44. Who, you need to edit "slut" out of your comment

WTF is wrong with you???

[quickesst]

37. Shania Twain's net worth...

..... Is estimated at about 350 million dollars. Shoots that typical shoot from the hip without any facts to back it up bullshit down the drain. After reading her apology, I believe it was sincere, so I forgive her. Why? Because I'm a Democrat who does a little due diligence before expressing an opinion.

"The question caught me off guard. As a Canadian, I regret answering this unexpected question without giving my response more context. I am passionately against discrimination of any kind and hope it’s clear from the choices I have made, and the people I stand with, that I do not hold any common moral beliefs with the current president."

“I was trying to explain, in response to a question about the election, that my limited understanding was that the president talked to a portion of America like an accessible person they could relate to, as he was NOT a politician. My answer was awkward, but certainly should not be taken as representative of my values nor does it mean I endorse him. I make music to bring people together. My path will always be one of inclusivity, as my history shows.”

"MY PATH WILL ALWAYS BE ONE OF INCLUSIVITY, AS MY HISTORY SHOWS."
Yeah, I looked into that, and I absolutely believe she does not deserve the hate being shown here.


https://www.thewrap.com/shania-twain-apologizes-for-saying-she-wouldve-voted-for-honest-donald-trump/

[KY_EnviroGuy]

48. She fell for the flim-flam like millions of others.

I've heard that story line until it makes me physically ill: "like an accessible person they could relate to".

That may be just fine, but talk is cheap and it does not in any way mean that person is qualified to be President of the United States. The world is full of carnival barkers. She should know better and American citizens should know better.

Thanks for posting that info......

[quickesst]

53. She's a country artist...

Country artists do not receive a lot of love from the left, and like the South are pretty much victims of the old broad blanket. The kind of hate expressed in this thread is neither liberal nor progessive. Like I said, I looked into her background and she is telling the truth when she says she does not share any of Donald Trump's moral values. I forgive her and accept her apology and feel comfortable knowing that I am on the right side of this.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

56. I agree 'cause I'm a fan.

I've always liked the A&R work she did with Mutt Lange in the early years. It really shocked the industry and brought in some fresh sounds.

I think country artists are just like the general public in that when they go from rags to riches, some of them get trapped in the right-wing bubble of tax and government resentment, while others stick to their roots and use their money for good.

I was raised up near Nashville (50s and 60s) and have had to endure watching the political leanings go from almost 100% Democrat to mostly Repug. I'll never be able to accept that shift. The music industry has likely been influenced by that change.

[quickesst]

77. I am not influenced...

....because I am a fan. My wife and I used to listen to a lot of music. We had a 10 CD player and she would pick 5 CDs and I would pick 5. My wife was a fan and so she frequently picked Shania Twain, but in all that time I have never picked her as one of my choices. I am however a fan of forgiveness if I see sincerity in a regretful apology. I certainly do not let a single unfortunate statement override a person and their moral worth as a whole. I also will not unfairly deride an individual in order to bolster what I perceive my status as a liberal to be.

[Eyeball_Kid]

88. Twain's way out of her self-imposed shitstorm...

is to articulate how she failed in her judgment. She needs to say exactly what it is about Trumpy that turned her on to him and what it is about Trumpy that turned her against him. Then she needs to take the heat from her fans who are also Trumpy Fanboys, eat her losses, and move on to being a guest on TV talk shows.

[heaven05]

64. Yeah, right

[quickesst]

79. Thank you...

... for your thoughtful and intelligent insight. I will spend seconds pondering it.

[heaven05]

86. don't

I can see even a few seconds worth of reflection would do nothing. And you're welcome

[True Blue American]

38. Shania is just the latest

Example of why I dislike what Country music has become.

My last one was Vince Gill. I loved his,” When I Call Your Name.” Then,after going to a few of his Concerts, one,he brought his Dad on. He was a Judge in Columbus,Ohio.

The next one he was doing his monologue and made the remark that,” Clinton was taking all his money in taxes. You know, that President who balanced the budget?

Then I found out he was close friends of the Bushes. I never went to see him,or bought his records again. Like Church,I do not want to hear Politics from my singers!🤑

In Classic Country they may have been Republicans, but you never heard it.

I never could stand Shania. She was too fake.

[Jedi Guy]

67. You don't want to hear politics from your singers...

Does it bother you when artists express liberal/progressive views? If not, isn't that a bit hypocritical?

I don't much care what a performer's politics are, personally. They're entitled to their views just like anyone else. The only metric I go by is whether or not I like their stuff. I think it's kinda silly the way people get bent out of shape about a famous person's politics and start hollering about boycotts.

[True Blue American]

68. Yes, it bothers me.

I go for a Concert, not a Political harangue.

But Shania does not bother me one way or the other. I never listened to her.

I know Roy Accuff ran as a Republican many years ago,I think,as Governor, but the many times I saw him I never heard him say so

Of course,the Republican Party was much different then. It would not have bothered me back then. Today it does.

I see nothing hypocritical in my feelings. Republicans began going off the rail with Reagan.

Nixon did many good things in office. He wanted National Health care.

Trump is not fit to be dog catcher. I could say the same for the Republican Congressional Leaders today.

[LanternWaste]

70. so much popular music of the past fifties years is actual about politics and social issues

"I go for a Concert, not a Political harangue..."

It's convenient then for you to forget that so much popular music across the spectrum of genres of the past fifties years is actual about politics and social issues?



Or are you feeling harangued and lectured to when listening to these as well?
Strange Fruit, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Get Together, Eve of Destruction, Blowin' in the Wind, Imagine...

And thousands more.

[True Blue American]

84. Social issues,true

But I did not read Politics into them

Different time,different Country.

[Jedi Guy]

73. No insult intended...

But it is a little hypocritical to say "I don't want politics in my music" and then say "It's okay if I agree with the politics in question." You really mean the latter rather than the former, if I understand you correctly.

And no argument from me about today's Republican Party. I ought to know since I used to be one and the majority of my family still are. I watched in abject horror as Trump began his run and clinched the nomination, and then in even greater horror when he "won" the election.

The Republican Party of old is dead and gone. It used to be that they wanted what was best for the country but disagreed with the Democratic Party on how to go about achieving that. Not anymore.

That said, there are still some principled conservatives out there who haven't guzzled the Kool-Aid and jumped on the Trump bandwagon. The problem is that they're the minority in today's Republican Party.

After Trump self-destructs, whatever form that takes,I predict a split in the Republican Party when they conduct their post-mortem.

[True Blue American]

89. Call it what you wish.

Why is it hypocritical for me to be offended when I am telling the truth about today’s Politics?

Things have become much more angry today.

I am not taking offense,I simply post what I think. Others can do the same. None of us think alike.

I would not be a Democrat if I objected to a big tent. And,yes, my feelings have changed over the years as I have learned more and matured. I doubt any of us have the same views we did 20 years ago.

[Mike Nelson]

41. Honest?

...Honestly, this woman needs mental health help... why would anyone describe him as "honest"? Fortunately, she's very wealthy and can get some help. I hope she recovers.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

42. so, now she would be one of those who regret their votes.

There are a few in that camp.

Better luck with choosing in 2020.

[obamanut2012]

43. Have been a huge fan of hers since she was basically a nobody

in Country. Paid to see her in concert many times, have all of her CDs. Have tossed all her CDs. She is a supporter of a Fascist bigot who is destroying this country. And, fuck her non "if I offended" apology.

Her stepfather was First Nations, and she grew up with the tribe. She also grew up dirt poor, and had to raise her siblings when she was barely out of high school after her mom and stepfather died. She is a deplorable and a moran.

Not once more cent from me, ever.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

47. Shania is about as educated on Trump as many American voters.

I've loved her music ever since she started, but she needs to stick to music until she's better versed. She came from very poor roots and should be supporting progressive causes.

The conservative herd mentality is very dangerous indeed. Burst that bubble, Shania!

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[Hortensis]

50. She's a run-of-the-mill personality-driven idiot.

How many mountains-size piles of evidence about Trump's dishonesty would any person need? None if that person is honest with herself, and we know no number will do if that person is not.

Shania would need a personality transplant to become politically wise, or intensive educational counseling to become adequate. She's no kid. It's obviously not in her.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

55. I tend to agree - her head probably stays in a right-wing bubble.

Those of us educated in the rational sciences have trouble understanding that type personality but it seems to be prevalent these days.

One would think that someone that has fought through the down-and-dirty tentacles of the music industry for many years would at least show a degree of curiosity. Unfortunately, the current self-centered emotion-driven political scene does not always connect to the best of a person's rational experiences.

I would suspect that Twain's conservative chops originate from a resentment of taxes - not unusual for "rags-to-riches" people.

[Hortensis]

65. :) She's no doubt slammed with taxes, from her point of view.

It's all too easy to imagine that bottom number on tax returns as an anti-government catalyst for people less prone to awareness of, much less gratitude for, what our democracies have made possible than to resentment at the share they're taking to keep it all going.

But we now know that people are born wired to conservative or liberal personality traits,and variations. The types literally think somewhat differently, even process information in different orders and have different ways of thinking about morality. Then environment gets to work on us, in this case perhaps what must be truly shocking subtractions that would lower her net worth to only something like $370 million.

Oh, well. I don't know how much credit she's due for rejecting Trump, given his behavior and that supporting him's been biting her badly, but grading on a necessarily generous curve, some credit seems appropriate.

Good for her.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

72. Understand exactly what you're saying, Hortensis.

Being a scientific type, many years ago (Reagan or Bush years, I forget) it was eating me up trying to understand how anyone could think with a Republican mindset (I refuse to call them conservatives). I did a lot of on-line research and finally found the research you referenced, along with several other meaningful studies.

They also say there is a critical period when we're young (late teens/early 20s) when we can most easily fall (or be driven) into either camp, and I believe that's true - plus the effects of genetic psychopathy that determines how much we are fear-driven.

Those who are genetically predisposed to be fearful AND are raised under authoritarian influences (parents, schools, etc.) would turn out to be the worst. And, if a person was also genetically a psychopath, then we have people like Trump and many of the corporate leaders. So, it takes like a three-banger to create and complete flaming asshole, LOL.

Anyway, I gained enough satisfaction to at least partially be at peace with this awful subset of our human population, and can recognize the characteristics more easily now. They are just like redheads and those born blind - there will always be some in the mix.

Thanks for sharing!......

[Hortensis]

83. Exactly. And it does get very, very complex, as you indicate.

Not that I understand even what we've discovered to date, but I figure the short version in itself is a mind-blower of new knowledge. None of us has a choice about those huge basic factors in our makeup, as well as other biggies you mention.

As you say, understanding allows us "to at least partially be at peace with" people who naturally think somewhat differently. It also helps to generate the empathy we all desperately need to understand each other and to redevelop at least a modicum of the mutual acceptance, and even respect in those still capable of it, that increasingly sophisticated manipulations have so deliberately and malignantly destroyed.

Since "there will always be some in the mix," the mix being half and half = the electorate, we need to understand ourselves every bit as well as our joint enemies do so we can understand how to block and counter their manipulations.



"United we stand, divided we fall."

[democratisphere]

51. Shania is a deplorable deplorable.

[Happyhippychick]

52. She sounds like a trumper. Lie, lie, oops - profit is being affected, lie AGAIN

Too late. Hope your career is now finished, probably is.

[tavernier]

54. Another case of anything that touches Rump

turns to shit.

[Vogon_Glory]

57. He seems honest...WTF

Shania, that was, to say the least, incredibly naive.

[Hoyt]

58. Will be nice when more country "stars" get to point they are willing to risk white wing backlash

for expressing utter disappointment in trump and other GOPers. Heck, trump is so pitiful it might get country more fans. But, then, the flag, troops, guns, and racism are pretty deeply entrenched among most of the fans.

[mercuryblues]

59. She has celebrityitis

The easy answer for her was. As you know, I am a Canadian citizen, living abroad. I don't keep up with American politics.

Some celebrities just love to hear the sound of their voice. She seems to be one of them.

[iloveObama12]

60. It's Too Late Too Late Baby Bye Bye

[heaven05]

61. I figure

anyone who thought about voting for trump but couldn't or voted for him are one in the same. I won't use any choice words to describe how they are the same somewhere in their lives, emotionally, psychologically and in the case of really dangerous KKK types, physically. NO FUCKING PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!shania.

Oh and she was physically and sexually abused. She would have voted for the same kind of person. Go figure

[FSogol]

66. Gosh, you've found actual evidence of another clueless celebrity!

[llmart]

69. She said...

"even though he was offensive, he seemed honest". Does that make any sort of sense? So, she's admitting he was offensive to her and yet she would have voted for someone like that?

I don't have to worry about not supporting her music since I always thought of her as a one-hit wonder, and I rarely like country music, or what passes as country music these days.

As others pointed out, she is trying to claw her way back into the limelight. She didn't have to answer this question or could have tactfully given a nonanswer. Could be this was a way to get her name back into the headlines.

[lark]

71. She's just another repug-ish liar.

This is shown in her acting like drumpf is honest when he's the biggest liar I have ever seen in my long life. I disdain her.

[workinclasszero]

74. Well she pissed off all non insane Americans by praising Shitler in the first place

Now she pissed off all the Dump deplorables by apologizing.


Maybe it's time to retire again Shania?

[we can do it]

78. Who cares? Her music sucks, and apparently her thought process does, too.

[Miles Archer]

81. "Awkward."

"My answer was awkward, but certainly should not be taken as representative of my values nor does it mean I endorse him."

Why NO, Ms. Twain...I most certainly did NOT take your statement that you would have voted for him as an endorsement, because a vote is hardly an endorsement!

Errr...wait. A vote IS an endorsement. Scratch that.

[Eyeball_Kid]

85. It's all about the money.

Twain anticipates losing hundreds of thousands if she is identified as a Trumper. So she has to try to push the horse back into the barn. She should have done some thinking before blowing it out of her ass. But it's too late. She kissed Trumpy's junk. No one gets away with that.

[Orsino]

87. That's not what she apologized for.

But what she was apologizing for isn't clear. In any case, she has not contradicted her earlier claim.

[Politicub]

91. He seemed honest?

What an idiot. Clearly, talent =/= brains.

[RhodeIslandOne]

92. Maybe she just an idiot, like Britney Spears

[muriel_volestrangler]

93. Locking - the hosts feel the opinion of a Canadian pop star is not "important news ...

... of national interest", as required by the LBN rules. Please repost in GD. Thanks.