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DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #1
AJT Apr 2018 #2
TalenaGor Apr 2018 #3
SunSeeker Apr 2018 #6
Shipwack Apr 2018 #15
dhol82 Apr 2018 #4
SayItLoud Apr 2018 #5
bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #7
bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #8
dhill926 Apr 2018 #18
Nitram Apr 2018 #19
getagrip_already Apr 2018 #21
GusBob Apr 2018 #9
lancelyons Apr 2018 #10
lancelyons Apr 2018 #12
Kablooie Apr 2018 #11
lancelyons Apr 2018 #13
CabalPowered Apr 2018 #24
Trust Buster Apr 2018 #14
OnDoutside Apr 2018 #23
Hoyt Apr 2018 #16
dajoki Apr 2018 #17
JI7 Apr 2018 #20
lancelyons Apr 2018 #22

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:06 AM

1. Interesting. Wonder what stories theyre talking about.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:09 AM

2. Serious journalists have multiple, reliable and verifiable sources.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:12 AM

3. ugh

I can hear trump now "fake news!"

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Response to TalenaGor (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:21 AM

6. The statement was given to the Washington Times, a pro-Trump, anti-FBI news outlet.

Maybe the FBI was trying to tamp down on the more crazy anti-FBI stories that outlets like the Washington Times run. Alas, you're right, Trump will use it as confirmation that all the stories against him are "fake news."

I really wish the FBI would stick to not commenting on ongoing investigations, which is their policy.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:06 AM

15. I hope he continues to think its all fake news...

Its a good thing when he has an unearned sense of security. It keeps him from striking out in fear.

Then again, his followers will be in for a rude shock when things go down... the out of the blue (to them in their bubbles) will be a major shock to the system. They’ll probably reflexively disbelieve anything negative they hear.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:21 AM

4. Damn.....

Hope he is not setting us up for another Fitzmas non-miracle.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:21 AM

5. My sources say

There is something big coming. What are my sources you ask? Answer: Common sense.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:24 AM

7. Could be an indication

that regime change is responsibility of voters and not prosecutions

I really don't expect a full accounting, but it does seem retirements will clear the air

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:34 AM

8. Its always been the voters responsibility

Anyone that is putting their full faith in that Muller’s Investigation will singlehandedly bring down the Trump administration is fooling themselves. Donald Trump will have to be taken out at the ballot box in 2020, plain and simple. And we can do it.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:34 AM

18. yep, yep...and yep...

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:10 AM

19. I agree, bucolic. It sounds like Mueller is trying to lower expectations.

Comey has also suggested there may not be enough evidence to prove obstruction of justice, or reach the level of impeachable crimes.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:14 PM

21. I see the rumours of a "Report" being written....

as an indication that indictments won't cover trump himself. It's always been likely he will just be an un-indicted co-conspirator.

If he is going to issue a report, he won't be indicting trump. He wouldn't want to weaken his case by documenting it for congress, he would let the indictments speak for themselves and brief congress as needed.

So yeah, he could be tamping down expectations of indictments directly against trump.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:36 AM

9. I had a feeling this was the case. They don't leak

Awhile back there was a rash of stories based on interviews of witnesses that may have held some truth, but may have not been accurate as to the direction of the investigation

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:38 AM

10. Something doesnt feel right about this.

Mueller and his team do not come out and just make comments. In particular to just the washington times and daily caller.

I am sensing something fake about this. The washington times used this and wrapped it around the McClatchy report about Cohen being in Prague to discredit the Cohen in prague thing.

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Response to lancelyons (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:56 AM

12. In other words, there is no mention of this on the Special Counsels office site.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:50 AM

11. The Washington Times says the message was reported by The Daily Caller

Why would Mueller give this message only to a right wing propaganda publication?
I couldn't find it on the Daily Caller site.

And the WT article mainly was about the Cohen Prague report being bogus.
This sounds a lot like a fake setup, not a real message from Mueller.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:56 AM

13. Exactly.. no mention of this on the special counsels site either https://www.justice.gov/sco

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:27 PM

24. I couldn't find it either.

Looks like FUD to me. The timing is very suspicious..

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:57 AM

14. The timing of this on the heels of the Cohen-Prague story is very troubling.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:20 PM

23. I agree.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:06 AM

16. Most of the info attributed to Mueller's investigation is just conjecture. Truthfully, I don't know

why we think Mueller is intent on bringing trump down. I get why we hope he does, but I'm not sure he's after trump with the intensity all the conjecture seems to indicate.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:31 AM

17. I don't know what's true anymore but...

I had a feeling for a long time that Mueller might not do what we want or expect.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:54 AM

20. Mueller told Reporters ? Which Reporters ?

Just the fact Mueller is going to talk to reporters would be news.

Remember the story just a week before Cohen said raid about how trump is nota target of criminal investigation ?

Yet the only ones that seemed to come from was trump's lawyers. After the cohen raid the right wing was claiming it was Robert Mueller who was going around claiming trump wasn't a target as a way to trick them.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:07 PM

22. No credible outlets are covering that.

Muellers team would not just talk to the dailycaller or washingtontimes.

That would give off the impression that he favored conservative outlets.

This is FAKE information.

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