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mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:54 PM Apr 2018

DOJ: Michael Cohen 'under criminal investigation'

Source: CNN

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, is "under criminal investigation," the Justice Department said Friday.

In response to Cohen's motion to restrain the evidence collected in Monday's raids of his home and office, the US attorney in New York asserted the raids were authorized by a federal judge to seek evidence of conduct "for which Cohen is under criminal investigation."

Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/13/politics/michael-cohen-hearing-fbi-raid/



It's official!

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DOJ: Michael Cohen 'under criminal investigation' (Original Post) mobeau69 Apr 2018 OP
Hey, Trump! PJMcK Apr 2018 #1
But he barely knew him! NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #32
He was the covfefe boy. lunatica Apr 2018 #40
The NY Times editorial "The Law Is Coming, Mr. Trump" Botany Apr 2018 #2
Yep. My fear is that Trump is correct in his assumption that he will continue to get away with Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2018 #27
Finally. dalton99a Apr 2018 #3
Yeah but Cohen and Trump want a take back BootinUp Apr 2018 #4
There won't be one. Mueller is a stickler for detail & I'm sure SDNY office is the same. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #5
This announcement was in response janx Apr 2018 #6
it was a 20 page response...... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #14
Mama always said you lie down with dirt you are going to get up dirty wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #7
I've been using the metaphor leftynyc Apr 2018 #8
Lock Him UP! jpak Apr 2018 #9
Looks like trumps losing another lawyer, duforsure Apr 2018 #10
who could have seen that coming Skittles Apr 2018 #11
He was just a coffee boy. honest.abe Apr 2018 #12
I beg your pardon Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #13
Zap Hekate Apr 2018 #22
+1000! dchill Apr 2018 #33
I wonder if Cohen is re-thinking his willingness to take a bullet for Trump. Jim__ Apr 2018 #15
Hmmm. . . matt819 Apr 2018 #16
Flip him, I say. LudwigPastorius Apr 2018 #17
He was crying in court today. Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #18
They never had to, back in their private sector days. calimary Apr 2018 #21
Crying because he knows what the Russian mob can do FakeNoose Apr 2018 #23
It appears that Cohen performs little or no legal work neohippie Apr 2018 #19
It's been reported that he rents a separate office from a law firm and has mobeau69 Apr 2018 #20
This: catbyte Apr 2018 #29
Just snother coincidence. mobeau69 Apr 2018 #30
Grab the popcorn! n/t freethought Apr 2018 #24
And keep the Champaign on ice! lunatica Apr 2018 #41
What if Trump Scooter Libby's him? Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #25
The jurisdiction is in the State of New York Wednesdays Apr 2018 #43
But, but, but... Grammy23 Apr 2018 #44
New York FEDERAL Court Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #46
Does anyone know if the investigation includes state crimes? dameatball Apr 2018 #26
This wouldn't but I trust NYAG is on this like white on rice. mobeau69 Apr 2018 #28
As the stupidest Lawyer on the planet...... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #31
Do you think his Ray Donovan act will work in a real prison? lunatica Apr 2018 #42
He aint no Ray. The thing about Ray Donovan is he is naturally cool Pepsidog Apr 2018 #48
Not a chance. SergeStorms Apr 2018 #51
Cohen literally went to the worst ranked Law school in the country Thomas Cooley Law School Pepsidog Apr 2018 #34
Damn...there's a branch of TCLS in Florida! Sancho Apr 2018 #39
The law school credentials were meant to cover his tracks Grammy23 Apr 2018 #45
Agree and I was think about my cousin vinny as well Pepsidog Apr 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Apr 2018 #35
Mahalo, mobeau! Cha Apr 2018 #36
What a well played week bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #37
I tried to make this comment on the locked thread but I'll put it in here. erronis Apr 2018 #38
Hope something sticks. He seems like a sleezeball. riversedge Apr 2018 #49
He seems like it because he IS! Grammy23 Apr 2018 #50

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
32. But he barely knew him!
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:19 PM
Apr 2018

Cohen may have occasionally served coffee to meetings in the WH, but Trump couldn't pick him out of a lineup!

Botany

(70,425 posts)
2. The NY Times editorial "The Law Is Coming, Mr. Trump"
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:58 PM
Apr 2018

The NY Times editorial "The Law Is Coming, Mr. Trump"


Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks. He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado. Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office. Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid. A raid on a lawyer’s office doesn’t happen every day; it means that multiple government officials, and a federal judge, had reason to believe they’d find evidence of a crime there and that they didn’t trust the lawyer not to destroy that evidence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/opinion/trump-michael-cohen-raid.html

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
27. Yep. My fear is that Trump is correct in his assumption that he will continue to get away with
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:38 PM
Apr 2018

the sort of crap he's always gotten away with. With his pardon powers and with a Congress unwilling to jeopardize their chance to destroy the social safety net by holding him accountable for his crimes, I'm just so afraid he will go right on destroying the country for his own idiotic and egocentric reasons.

getagrip_already

(14,589 posts)
14. it was a 20 page response......
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:18 PM
Apr 2018

almost all of it redacted when released to public. must be some meaty stuff in there.......

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
10. Looks like trumps losing another lawyer,
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:11 PM
Apr 2018

And they already had a lot to go after him with if a judge signed off on their raid. This will only get a lot worse fast for trump and cohen, especially as more gets exposed on them, which it will. They're scared the truth will get out on them now, and getting more desperate every day. Their court action will easily fail trying to halt everything.

Jim__

(14,057 posts)
15. I wonder if Cohen is re-thinking his willingness to take a bullet for Trump.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:24 PM
Apr 2018

Something tells me Mueller has a deal for him.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
16. Hmmm. . .
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:28 PM
Apr 2018

Let's see how Cohen feels now about that jump-off-a-building thing rather than rat on his capo.

Somehow I don't think he'll be charging at his multi-thousand dollar an hour rate as the newest jailhouse lawyer.

Johnny2X2X

(18,955 posts)
18. He was crying in court today.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:38 PM
Apr 2018

Word is he was crying in court this morning.

These guys are total amateurs. They didn’t cover their tracks at all.

calimary

(81,058 posts)
21. They never had to, back in their private sector days.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:56 PM
Apr 2018

Or maybe that should be “PIRATE sector days”.

They’ve never needed to cover their tracks before now. They never had to hassle with much of that stuff because in that world, bullying and blustering and threatening and cheating tactics and intimidation were merely the way they did “business”. That was all they ever needed. And they could force flimsy (but scary-sounding) non-disclosure agreements and bribery and hush money on perceived adversaries who didn’t have deep pockets or experience fighting dirty or friends in high places or a sense of righteous defiance.

These trump goons and thugs and slippery wheeler-dealers never quite either realized or accepted that this is a Whole New Ballgame, either. Those old ways don’t work very well anymore. Certainly not here! And there really is some actual accountability.

FakeNoose

(32,535 posts)
23. Crying because he knows what the Russian mob can do
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

He's between a rock and a hard place, and his own stupidity got him there.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
19. It appears that Cohen performs little or no legal work
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

From what I have read, Trump's attorney has almost no clients and preforms little or no legal work. He also attended the lowest of all ABA accredited law schools

Cooley, is basically like a test prep school or law camp

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/michael_cohen_trumps_attorney.html








https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4437270-Cohen-v-US-Govt-Opposition-to-TRO-Request.html


mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
20. It's been reported that he rents a separate office from a law firm and has
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:54 PM
Apr 2018

the the only key to it. He also uses his own email address.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. What if Trump Scooter Libby's him?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:14 PM
Apr 2018

Isn't that a distinct possibility? Seems all these guys are wearing a Teflon suit with their co-conspirator in the Oval Office running interference for them.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
44. But, but, but...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:00 PM
Apr 2018

It won’t stop tRumpolini from looking for ways to circumvent that little detail. He is used to getting his way no matter what it costs. He may have just met his match. I want to see him squirm and wiggle like a worm on a hot griddle as he tries (in vain) to figure a way out. Somebody go take his blood pressure NOW. I am betting it isn’t so perfect these days.

dameatball

(7,391 posts)
26. Does anyone know if the investigation includes state crimes?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:21 PM
Apr 2018

That would affect the pardon power if convicted....correct?

SergeStorms

(19,123 posts)
31. As the stupidest Lawyer on the planet......
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:09 PM
Apr 2018

he should be! Maybe he can get Trump's coffee in prison, and give him free "illegal advice".

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
48. He aint no Ray. The thing about Ray Donovan is he is naturally cool
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:52 PM
Apr 2018

not the fake bravado that Cohen ties to exude. Ray Donovan is a tough guy with a heart,always looking out for vulnerable people who would be bullied by the likes of Cohen and Trump. Unlike the cowards Trump and Cohen, Ray would kick the ass the rich prick who thought because of money he was better than someone else. And Ray’s tough exterior betrays the fact that he was molested as a boy by a priest. Now I know Ray is a fictional character but he represents qualities that Cohen and Trump will never have because they are bullies and bullies are nothing but cowards.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
45. The law school credentials were meant to cover his tracks
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:06 PM
Apr 2018

Using attorney-client privilege. So no need for a First Class education. Just the JD behind his name. Dude should have studied a little harder or paid more attention while he was in class since if you’re not doing lawyerly deeds or even if you are but it involves criminal behavior, the attorney-client privilege goes bye bye. tRump might as well have hired My Cousin Vinny.

Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(43,004 posts)
37. What a well played week
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 07:52 AM
Apr 2018

Execution of warrant on Monday became a focal point for the rest of the week

Then Friday the stunning release of pinpointing Cohen in Prague in the final months of the 2016 campaign, though he has testified he had never been there, which goes a long way toward a specific contact point for the collusion that Donald Trump keeps telling us never happened.

So no matter how much they deny, deny, deny, one just had to know it was all bravado. They enjoy the game of trying to get away with it, and it's not working.

I suspect this won't be the last surprise, startling revelation, or well-timed legal action in the coming months.

Strikes on Syria are a managed showcase event, and genuinely temporary.

erronis

(15,163 posts)
38. I tried to make this comment on the locked thread but I'll put it in here.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:01 PM
Apr 2018
Sounds like there's an off-the-books private business/spy cadre going on that's worthy of the best spook novelists - LeCarre, Ludlum, Deighton.

I often post it - agent without portfolio; it's covert but hiding in plain sight.

If this thing blows wide open and is not hushed up (as dozens of GOP Congress retire in favor of family time), it might rival the fall of the Berlin Wall in long term consequences.


Nicely stated. Rogue individuals with something to sell trying to make bucks on the street...

K Street, that is. And usually selling themselves.

Guess poor beagle won't be pulling down lawyerly fees for a long time in the future. Poor wife and children. Maybe he should have become a "good family man" many years ago.
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